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July 2, 2009 at 8:17 AM #424561July 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM #423829
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Participantluchabee,
What was Davidson’s Ph.D thesis topic?
I hope you re-read your post. Other than completely bizarre chapter on how every American has AC and we are a OK, the paper has nothing to do with Environmental Economics, specialty of both authors. But of course, Joe the Plumber wasn’t expert on tax policy either, and he was in every talking point during election.
In the bill that passed the House, agriculture industry got a large number of carbon credits. Even if they didn’t, claiming that $60/ton higher fertilizer costs will cause world famine is silly. In 2008 fertilizer prices went up $200 to $300/ton and the world is still around.
July 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM #424059Participantluchabee,
What was Davidson’s Ph.D thesis topic?
I hope you re-read your post. Other than completely bizarre chapter on how every American has AC and we are a OK, the paper has nothing to do with Environmental Economics, specialty of both authors. But of course, Joe the Plumber wasn’t expert on tax policy either, and he was in every talking point during election.
In the bill that passed the House, agriculture industry got a large number of carbon credits. Even if they didn’t, claiming that $60/ton higher fertilizer costs will cause world famine is silly. In 2008 fertilizer prices went up $200 to $300/ton and the world is still around.
July 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM #424339Participantluchabee,
What was Davidson’s Ph.D thesis topic?
I hope you re-read your post. Other than completely bizarre chapter on how every American has AC and we are a OK, the paper has nothing to do with Environmental Economics, specialty of both authors. But of course, Joe the Plumber wasn’t expert on tax policy either, and he was in every talking point during election.
In the bill that passed the House, agriculture industry got a large number of carbon credits. Even if they didn’t, claiming that $60/ton higher fertilizer costs will cause world famine is silly. In 2008 fertilizer prices went up $200 to $300/ton and the world is still around.
July 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM #424409Participantluchabee,
What was Davidson’s Ph.D thesis topic?
I hope you re-read your post. Other than completely bizarre chapter on how every American has AC and we are a OK, the paper has nothing to do with Environmental Economics, specialty of both authors. But of course, Joe the Plumber wasn’t expert on tax policy either, and he was in every talking point during election.
In the bill that passed the House, agriculture industry got a large number of carbon credits. Even if they didn’t, claiming that $60/ton higher fertilizer costs will cause world famine is silly. In 2008 fertilizer prices went up $200 to $300/ton and the world is still around.
July 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM #424571Participantluchabee,
What was Davidson’s Ph.D thesis topic?
I hope you re-read your post. Other than completely bizarre chapter on how every American has AC and we are a OK, the paper has nothing to do with Environmental Economics, specialty of both authors. But of course, Joe the Plumber wasn’t expert on tax policy either, and he was in every talking point during election.
In the bill that passed the House, agriculture industry got a large number of carbon credits. Even if they didn’t, claiming that $60/ton higher fertilizer costs will cause world famine is silly. In 2008 fertilizer prices went up $200 to $300/ton and the world is still around.
July 2, 2009 at 9:06 AM #423843Arraya
ParticipantIn 2008 fertilizer prices went up $200 to $300/ton and the world is still around.
Actually world wide food riots started when fertilizer hit that number last summer. Several hundred million more were put into the starvation category. Which was more driven by oil costs because it is a flow through to all commodities. Though, phosphates are becoming an issue as well.
Actually, at this point. Massive world wide famine is inevitable to some magnitude higher than it has ever been.
Mostly driven by oil scarcity and soon water scarcity.
Anything that drives up oil prices, brings famine.
July 2, 2009 at 9:06 AM #424074ParticipantIn 2008 fertilizer prices went up $200 to $300/ton and the world is still around.
Actually world wide food riots started when fertilizer hit that number last summer. Several hundred million more were put into the starvation category. Which was more driven by oil costs because it is a flow through to all commodities. Though, phosphates are becoming an issue as well.
Actually, at this point. Massive world wide famine is inevitable to some magnitude higher than it has ever been.
Mostly driven by oil scarcity and soon water scarcity.
Anything that drives up oil prices, brings famine.
July 2, 2009 at 9:06 AM #424354ParticipantIn 2008 fertilizer prices went up $200 to $300/ton and the world is still around.
Actually world wide food riots started when fertilizer hit that number last summer. Several hundred million more were put into the starvation category. Which was more driven by oil costs because it is a flow through to all commodities. Though, phosphates are becoming an issue as well.
Actually, at this point. Massive world wide famine is inevitable to some magnitude higher than it has ever been.
Mostly driven by oil scarcity and soon water scarcity.
Anything that drives up oil prices, brings famine.
July 2, 2009 at 9:06 AM #424424ParticipantIn 2008 fertilizer prices went up $200 to $300/ton and the world is still around.
Actually world wide food riots started when fertilizer hit that number last summer. Several hundred million more were put into the starvation category. Which was more driven by oil costs because it is a flow through to all commodities. Though, phosphates are becoming an issue as well.
Actually, at this point. Massive world wide famine is inevitable to some magnitude higher than it has ever been.
Mostly driven by oil scarcity and soon water scarcity.
Anything that drives up oil prices, brings famine.
July 2, 2009 at 9:06 AM #424586ParticipantIn 2008 fertilizer prices went up $200 to $300/ton and the world is still around.
Actually world wide food riots started when fertilizer hit that number last summer. Several hundred million more were put into the starvation category. Which was more driven by oil costs because it is a flow through to all commodities. Though, phosphates are becoming an issue as well.
Actually, at this point. Massive world wide famine is inevitable to some magnitude higher than it has ever been.
Mostly driven by oil scarcity and soon water scarcity.
Anything that drives up oil prices, brings famine.
July 2, 2009 at 9:11 AM #423849blahblahblah
ParticipantMore unintended consequences of nutty liberal policies . . . Cap and trade will likely exacerbate global starvation:
Other than the “liberal” bit, you’re on the money. Don’t get fooled by the left/right business, that is a charade. Yes this idea is being pushed by “left” politicians but the idea has been around for a long, long time and the people behind it are neither left nor right but rather fascist. And the idea is to slow population growth worldwide but especially in the third world. Increasing food costs is one easy way to do this.
Again, don’t be fooled by your real concerns about the environment — yes we are screwing it up but these new laws and taxes will do nothing to stop that. They are simply designed to extract more wealth (and power) from the common man and funnel it straight to the top.
July 2, 2009 at 9:11 AM #424079ParticipantMore unintended consequences of nutty liberal policies . . . Cap and trade will likely exacerbate global starvation:
Other than the “liberal” bit, you’re on the money. Don’t get fooled by the left/right business, that is a charade. Yes this idea is being pushed by “left” politicians but the idea has been around for a long, long time and the people behind it are neither left nor right but rather fascist. And the idea is to slow population growth worldwide but especially in the third world. Increasing food costs is one easy way to do this.
Again, don’t be fooled by your real concerns about the environment — yes we are screwing it up but these new laws and taxes will do nothing to stop that. They are simply designed to extract more wealth (and power) from the common man and funnel it straight to the top.
July 2, 2009 at 9:11 AM #424359ParticipantMore unintended consequences of nutty liberal policies . . . Cap and trade will likely exacerbate global starvation:
Other than the “liberal” bit, you’re on the money. Don’t get fooled by the left/right business, that is a charade. Yes this idea is being pushed by “left” politicians but the idea has been around for a long, long time and the people behind it are neither left nor right but rather fascist. And the idea is to slow population growth worldwide but especially in the third world. Increasing food costs is one easy way to do this.
Again, don’t be fooled by your real concerns about the environment — yes we are screwing it up but these new laws and taxes will do nothing to stop that. They are simply designed to extract more wealth (and power) from the common man and funnel it straight to the top.
July 2, 2009 at 9:11 AM #424429ParticipantMore unintended consequences of nutty liberal policies . . . Cap and trade will likely exacerbate global starvation:
Other than the “liberal” bit, you’re on the money. Don’t get fooled by the left/right business, that is a charade. Yes this idea is being pushed by “left” politicians but the idea has been around for a long, long time and the people behind it are neither left nor right but rather fascist. And the idea is to slow population growth worldwide but especially in the third world. Increasing food costs is one easy way to do this.
Again, don’t be fooled by your real concerns about the environment — yes we are screwing it up but these new laws and taxes will do nothing to stop that. They are simply designed to extract more wealth (and power) from the common man and funnel it straight to the top.
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