OT: Battle Ground Zero: Murrieta: Invasion of America

[svelte]

Look everyone, jobs/immigration really isn’t a dire situation. If people weren’t able to find work, housing costs wouldn’t be rising and people would be fleeing high cost areas. For well over 100 years now, the rules have been the same: adapt or perish.

Think about the industrial revolution where the types of jobs available and where they were at changed drastically. It caused severe turmoil for decades. I can point to era after era where similar things have occurred.

If I follow the trajectory of my childhood friends, I see that those who got a college degree and could handle the corporate world live in major cities and are able to afford to buy a house and live comfortably. Those who got a college degree but couldn’t take the daily 9 to 5 became self-employed or free-lancers…they live in the burbs or even a little farther out where they could afford to buy a house and commute in when they have to. Those that didn’t get a degree live in low-cost rural areas, typically close to job centers that support those low-cost areas such as factories and agriculture, and bought homes in these low-cost areas. I bet this framework continues, with or without immigration. And with or without technology changing the workplace.

They key is the same as it has always been. Adapt or perish.

[scaredyclassic]

adept or perish

[no_such_reality]

You’re still thinking of it as winners and “Losers”.

Those high tech jobs are growing like mad, the only problem is they’re growing slower than the labor force. So train your kid to be one of the high achievers, they can chase the shrinking pie like all those “losers”.

http://www.prb.org/Publications/Articles/2012/scientists-engineers.aspx

Teach your kids to compete, adapt, that’s all good. Teach them to study, learn and strive, that’s good too.

Eventually maybe you’ll ask yourself how long it will last if we’ve set up the playing field so 95% of population is chasing a shrinking pie, 4.9% are holding their own, and everything else is going to the 0.1%?

The pie the growing, 95% don’t see any of it.

[FlyerInHi]

And job anxieties justify being mean refugees?

If my parents were filmed on TV yelling “go home” to refugees, I’d be pretty embarrassed. That’s how those people teach their kids. Ambush buses of frightened refugees.

I wouldn’t want people like that as friends or relatives.

[CA renter]

This article describes some of the issues being faced by Syrian refugees and people living in Turkey. They have a very long shared history, more similar cultures, religions, ethnic backgrounds, etc. Yet, there is tension and growing impatience on the part of the Turks (and the Syrians, as they didn’t think the situation would last so long).

It’s not always what the media tells you to think it is…sometimes, the issues are far more complex, and there are many different perspectives that aren’t being discussed in popular culture. Special interests control the narrative, and most people will just follow along. This is why I always beg people to do their own research regarding these various issues. More often than not, there is far more that we do not know, than what we do know.

IMHO, this is the real reason for the resistance to incoming refugees and immigrants.

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“Today, Gaziantep is a city in flux, affected deeply by the events continuing to unfold across the border in Syria. The flow of Syrian refugees has swelled its population by nearly a quarter, with approximately 350,000 people seeking shelter in Gaziantep. The price of rented accommodation has skyrocketed, while competition for jobs has fuelled tensions between Turkish and Syrian residents, occasionally leading to violence.

In places such as the Turkmenler Caddesi neighbourhood, where many Syrian refugees are now living, it is an uneasy coexistence.”

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/10/changing-face-gaziantep-161001110222924.html

[CA renter]

BTW, good post, NSR.

[FlyerInHi]

CAr, the situation is Turkey in no way justifies the anti immigrant ugliness in America.
That you would draw a connection reveals your own self.

[SK in CV]

[quote=FlyerInHi]CAr, the situation is Turkey in no way justifies the anti immigrant ugliness in America.
That you would draw a connection reveals your own self.[/quote]

Yeah, they’re a bit different. Turkey has a population of around 75 million and has 2.5 million Syrian refugees. US has a population of about 320 million, and we’ve taken in 10,000 Syrian refugees. To be comparable, the US would have over 10 million Syrian refugees.

[Anonymous]

[quote=SK in CV]Yeah, they’re a bit different. Turkey has a population of around 75 million and has 2.5 million Syrian refugees. US has a population of about 320 million, and we’ve taken in 10,000 Syrian refugees. To be comparable, the US would have over 10 million Syrian refugees.[/quote]

Yes, but “research” reveals that brown foreigners are like cockroaches. Once a few of them get in….

[CA renter]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=FlyerInHi]CAr, the situation is Turkey in no way justifies the anti immigrant ugliness in America.
That you would draw a connection reveals your own self.[/quote]

Yeah, they’re a bit different. Turkey has a population of around 75 million and has 2.5 million Syrian refugees. US has a population of about 320 million, and we’ve taken in 10,000 Syrian refugees. To be comparable, the US would have over 10 million Syrian refugees.[/quote]

What matters is perception (if people feel they will be “outnumbered” at some point, or lose social/economic/political power as a result of the changes), along with the way in which the govt distributes the refugees/immigrants. More often than not, these refugees are moved to an area that is already struggling, and that can place a greater burden on the local infrastructure, housing market, and labor market.

[FlyerInHi]

Perception is not reality.

The struggling places welcome immigrants because they need more. For example Baltimore. Or East San Diego.

The protesters are in Murietta and imperial beach. They protested ahead of any arrivals. Just shows their ugliness.

As far a social economic and political power, those increase for the local population with the arrival of refugees. The refugees don’t establish themselves for years.

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