OMG – Someone please control Christine O’donnell

[Anonymous]

[quote]It had snowed in London.[/quote]
You are joking, right?

Using one outlier sample to prove/disprove something is about as unscientific and biased as it gets.

But I suppose Chinese records from 1470 are so much more reliable than modern scientific methods.

You can grow grapes anywhere. It’s just much harder to make certain types of wine in cold climates. Perhaps the English used to tolerate lousy wine until it became more feasible to import good stuff. They still tolerate lousy food.

[afx114]

[quote=jstoesz]If you want to keep religion from people, you are as much a fascist as someone who wants to push it on someone. Stop making government take a side on the issue, and we will have a true separation. Ambivalence is the solution not prohibition.[/quote]

No one is keeping religion from you. You can learn religion in church. If anything, government is promoting religion by giving religious institutions tax exempt status. As an atheist I am offended by that, yet somehow you are the one being oppressed?

Using your logic I could claim that the government is preventing me from enjoying the game of billiards because they don’t teach it in schools.

Explain to me how government is keeping religion from people? Can you give one example?

[afx114]

[quote=jstoesz]If you want to keep religion from people, you are as much a fascist as someone who wants to push it on someone. Stop making government take a side on the issue, and we will have a true separation. Ambivalence is the solution not prohibition.[/quote]

No one is keeping religion from you. You can learn religion in church. If anything, government is promoting religion by giving religious institutions tax exempt status. As an atheist I am offended by that, yet somehow you are the one being oppressed?

Using your logic I could claim that the government is preventing me from enjoying the game of billiards because they don’t teach it in schools.

Explain to me how government is keeping religion from people? Can you give one example?

[afx114]

[quote=jstoesz]If you want to keep religion from people, you are as much a fascist as someone who wants to push it on someone. Stop making government take a side on the issue, and we will have a true separation. Ambivalence is the solution not prohibition.[/quote]

No one is keeping religion from you. You can learn religion in church. If anything, government is promoting religion by giving religious institutions tax exempt status. As an atheist I am offended by that, yet somehow you are the one being oppressed?

Using your logic I could claim that the government is preventing me from enjoying the game of billiards because they don’t teach it in schools.

Explain to me how government is keeping religion from people? Can you give one example?

[afx114]

[quote=jstoesz]If you want to keep religion from people, you are as much a fascist as someone who wants to push it on someone. Stop making government take a side on the issue, and we will have a true separation. Ambivalence is the solution not prohibition.[/quote]

No one is keeping religion from you. You can learn religion in church. If anything, government is promoting religion by giving religious institutions tax exempt status. As an atheist I am offended by that, yet somehow you are the one being oppressed?

Using your logic I could claim that the government is preventing me from enjoying the game of billiards because they don’t teach it in schools.

Explain to me how government is keeping religion from people? Can you give one example?

[afx114]

[quote=jstoesz]If you want to keep religion from people, you are as much a fascist as someone who wants to push it on someone. Stop making government take a side on the issue, and we will have a true separation. Ambivalence is the solution not prohibition.[/quote]

No one is keeping religion from you. You can learn religion in church. If anything, government is promoting religion by giving religious institutions tax exempt status. As an atheist I am offended by that, yet somehow you are the one being oppressed?

Using your logic I could claim that the government is preventing me from enjoying the game of billiards because they don’t teach it in schools.

Explain to me how government is keeping religion from people? Can you give one example?

[urbanrealtor]

Okay I am calling shark on this thread.

So far in this thread, I have learned that

-The right wing is always crazier (really? by what measure?)
-The the separation of church and state (the colloquial summary of the 1st amendment as coined by Jefferson) has no basis in the constitution
-The Supreme Court does not have jurisdiction to decide on issues of constitutionality (Article 3 section 2 be damned)
-Human effects upon global climate change are easily proved wrong through the existence of climate change (snow in London shows things are in good shape)
-Michael Moore and Ann Coulter are quotable as sources in thoughtful discussion

I think its time to talk about pointy toothy fish.

Here are 2 interesting facts

1:
Some people believe that sharks are mammals because sharks often bear their young live (instead of from eggs.

2:
Sharks have sharp denticles as scales to keep them clean and protect from parasites.

[urbanrealtor]

Okay I am calling shark on this thread.

So far in this thread, I have learned that

-The right wing is always crazier (really? by what measure?)
-The the separation of church and state (the colloquial summary of the 1st amendment as coined by Jefferson) has no basis in the constitution
-The Supreme Court does not have jurisdiction to decide on issues of constitutionality (Article 3 section 2 be damned)
-Human effects upon global climate change are easily proved wrong through the existence of climate change (snow in London shows things are in good shape)
-Michael Moore and Ann Coulter are quotable as sources in thoughtful discussion

I think its time to talk about pointy toothy fish.

Here are 2 interesting facts

1:
Some people believe that sharks are mammals because sharks often bear their young live (instead of from eggs.

2:
Sharks have sharp denticles as scales to keep them clean and protect from parasites.

[urbanrealtor]

Okay I am calling shark on this thread.

So far in this thread, I have learned that

-The right wing is always crazier (really? by what measure?)
-The the separation of church and state (the colloquial summary of the 1st amendment as coined by Jefferson) has no basis in the constitution
-The Supreme Court does not have jurisdiction to decide on issues of constitutionality (Article 3 section 2 be damned)
-Human effects upon global climate change are easily proved wrong through the existence of climate change (snow in London shows things are in good shape)
-Michael Moore and Ann Coulter are quotable as sources in thoughtful discussion

I think its time to talk about pointy toothy fish.

Here are 2 interesting facts

1:
Some people believe that sharks are mammals because sharks often bear their young live (instead of from eggs.

2:
Sharks have sharp denticles as scales to keep them clean and protect from parasites.

[urbanrealtor]

Okay I am calling shark on this thread.

So far in this thread, I have learned that

-The right wing is always crazier (really? by what measure?)
-The the separation of church and state (the colloquial summary of the 1st amendment as coined by Jefferson) has no basis in the constitution
-The Supreme Court does not have jurisdiction to decide on issues of constitutionality (Article 3 section 2 be damned)
-Human effects upon global climate change are easily proved wrong through the existence of climate change (snow in London shows things are in good shape)
-Michael Moore and Ann Coulter are quotable as sources in thoughtful discussion

I think its time to talk about pointy toothy fish.

Here are 2 interesting facts

1:
Some people believe that sharks are mammals because sharks often bear their young live (instead of from eggs.

2:
Sharks have sharp denticles as scales to keep them clean and protect from parasites.

[urbanrealtor]

Okay I am calling shark on this thread.

So far in this thread, I have learned that

-The right wing is always crazier (really? by what measure?)
-The the separation of church and state (the colloquial summary of the 1st amendment as coined by Jefferson) has no basis in the constitution
-The Supreme Court does not have jurisdiction to decide on issues of constitutionality (Article 3 section 2 be damned)
-Human effects upon global climate change are easily proved wrong through the existence of climate change (snow in London shows things are in good shape)
-Michael Moore and Ann Coulter are quotable as sources in thoughtful discussion

I think its time to talk about pointy toothy fish.

Here are 2 interesting facts

1:
Some people believe that sharks are mammals because sharks often bear their young live (instead of from eggs.

2:
Sharks have sharp denticles as scales to keep them clean and protect from parasites.

[jstoesz]

All of this follows to the elemental problem with public schools…They are a one size fits all legislative control arm from Washington. In one of the most intimate aspects of our lives. There are no choices (I guess they are limited with charter schools and the financially prohibitive private schools). If people can go where they choose, this debate we are having is moot. The solution to this problem is freedom not more regulation. I am sure you want your child to go to a secular humanist school. I have no problem with that. But should you have a problem if I want to send my kid to a Muslim school? Why is your Religon more protected than mine? The absence of a religion is still a religion.

[jstoesz]

All of this follows to the elemental problem with public schools…They are a one size fits all legislative control arm from Washington. In one of the most intimate aspects of our lives. There are no choices (I guess they are limited with charter schools and the financially prohibitive private schools). If people can go where they choose, this debate we are having is moot. The solution to this problem is freedom not more regulation. I am sure you want your child to go to a secular humanist school. I have no problem with that. But should you have a problem if I want to send my kid to a Muslim school? Why is your Religon more protected than mine? The absence of a religion is still a religion.

[jstoesz]

All of this follows to the elemental problem with public schools…They are a one size fits all legislative control arm from Washington. In one of the most intimate aspects of our lives. There are no choices (I guess they are limited with charter schools and the financially prohibitive private schools). If people can go where they choose, this debate we are having is moot. The solution to this problem is freedom not more regulation. I am sure you want your child to go to a secular humanist school. I have no problem with that. But should you have a problem if I want to send my kid to a Muslim school? Why is your Religon more protected than mine? The absence of a religion is still a religion.

[jstoesz]

All of this follows to the elemental problem with public schools…They are a one size fits all legislative control arm from Washington. In one of the most intimate aspects of our lives. There are no choices (I guess they are limited with charter schools and the financially prohibitive private schools). If people can go where they choose, this debate we are having is moot. The solution to this problem is freedom not more regulation. I am sure you want your child to go to a secular humanist school. I have no problem with that. But should you have a problem if I want to send my kid to a Muslim school? Why is your Religon more protected than mine? The absence of a religion is still a religion.

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