Off Topic: “Myth of Consensus explodes: APS Opens Global Warming Debate

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There are many huge environmental issues caused by humans. We have a tremendous impact on the environment. Exhaust gases and particulates from burning fossil fuels, genetically modified foods that are infecting and crossing with natural plants, pesticide and heavy metal pollution in groundwater, the overabundance of plastic waste that is clogging and choking the oceans, runoff from huge factory farms that spoils freshwater supplies, nuclear waste and of course nuclear weapons (including DU munitions), you can find hundreds of serious ecological issues with human causes with a couple of quick web searches.

Now ask yourself why the ONLY ISSUE we are being told that is important is that carbon dioxide from burning fossil fuels is going to heat up the planet and flood New York City so we must immediately act to become “carbon neutral”. Replace your lightbulbs that use less electricity but contain mercury and then feel good about yourself when you throw them in the trash.

While their may be some truth that increased CO2 has an impact on the climate, the real reason that governments are excited to do something about this is that it involves TAXING YOU, the serfs. The guys that really run the show, the guys who manufacture the plastics and pesticides and GMO foods and DU munitions and “earth-friendly” mercury lightbulbs will continue poisoning the planet and starting more wars while the rest of us lucky enough to survive their poisons and bombs will have to pay more taxes, possibly even to a global taxing authority.

This is a huge wealth confiscation scam, plain and simple. That doesn’t mean that there aren’t big environmental problems, it just means that TBTB are exploiting one of them to enrich themselves at your expense. That said, you can bet on them succeeding with this con and we’ll all have another line on our paycheck stubs for our “carbon” tax in a few years. We’ll continue polluting and poisoning our environment and things will keep getting worse and worse.

If politicians were actually serious about your health and keeping the earth safe, they would be providing incentives for people to live closer to work, they’d be starting public transportation initiatives, they’d be outlawing GMO foods, they’d be going after the huge polluters, they’d be trying to slow down the generation of the mountains of plastic trash we produce, they’d be banning DU munitions. Instead they’re promising that if they can just add another tax that will fix everything. Just like all that social security tax you’ve been paying your whole life is going to help take care of you in your old age. Except of course that now they tell us that social security is bankrupt and that we won’t actually receive any benefits — funny, I haven’t noticed any reduction in the amount of social security tax I pay. You can expect similar accounting curiosities with the new “carbon” tax.

I do think that we all have a responsibility to consume less resources, by the way. Drive only when you have to, take public transport when it is available, don’t buy water in little plastic bottles, drive the wheels off of your car before replacing it, and when you do consider a hybrid, etc… Just don’t expect that giving the government the ability to tax and regulate you further is going to do anything to help solve these very big problems.

Just my $0.02…

[jficquette]

[quote=arraya]jificuette-You are a right wing radio farce. Do you get your talking points directly from Rush Limbaugh?

Come on dude, use your own head. Everything you say is right out of a playbook.

You don’t have to worry, nothing is being down about GW, so you can sleep well knowing that.

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I really just don’t understand why some are so easily mislead on so many issues.

Its actually the other way around. Everything the Global Warming crowd says it right out of a playbook.

[jficquette]

[quote=arraya]jificuette-You are a right wing radio farce. Do you get your talking points directly from Rush Limbaugh?

Come on dude, use your own head. Everything you say is right out of a playbook.

You don’t have to worry, nothing is being down about GW, so you can sleep well knowing that.

[/quote]

I really just don’t understand why some are so easily mislead on so many issues.

Its actually the other way around. Everything the Global Warming crowd says it right out of a playbook.

[jficquette]

[quote=arraya]jificuette-You are a right wing radio farce. Do you get your talking points directly from Rush Limbaugh?

Come on dude, use your own head. Everything you say is right out of a playbook.

You don’t have to worry, nothing is being down about GW, so you can sleep well knowing that.

[/quote]

I really just don’t understand why some are so easily mislead on so many issues.

Its actually the other way around. Everything the Global Warming crowd says it right out of a playbook.

[jficquette]

[quote=arraya]jificuette-You are a right wing radio farce. Do you get your talking points directly from Rush Limbaugh?

Come on dude, use your own head. Everything you say is right out of a playbook.

You don’t have to worry, nothing is being down about GW, so you can sleep well knowing that.

[/quote]

I really just don’t understand why some are so easily mislead on so many issues.

Its actually the other way around. Everything the Global Warming crowd says it right out of a playbook.

[jficquette]

[quote=arraya]jificuette-You are a right wing radio farce. Do you get your talking points directly from Rush Limbaugh?

Come on dude, use your own head. Everything you say is right out of a playbook.

You don’t have to worry, nothing is being down about GW, so you can sleep well knowing that.

[/quote]

I really just don’t understand why some are so easily mislead on so many issues.

Its actually the other way around. Everything the Global Warming crowd says it right out of a playbook.

[JPJones]

Epic fail.

Thanks for doing our homework for us, esmith. This thread was good for a laugh at least.

[JPJones]

Epic fail.

Thanks for doing our homework for us, esmith. This thread was good for a laugh at least.

[JPJones]

Epic fail.

Thanks for doing our homework for us, esmith. This thread was good for a laugh at least.

[JPJones]

Epic fail.

Thanks for doing our homework for us, esmith. This thread was good for a laugh at least.

[JPJones]

Epic fail.

Thanks for doing our homework for us, esmith. This thread was good for a laugh at least.

[jficquette]

[quote=esmith]http://www.aps.org/

APS Position Remains Unchanged

The American Physical Society reaffirms the following position on climate change, adopted by its governing body, the APS Council, on November 18, 2007:

“Emissions of greenhouse gases from human activities are changing the atmosphere in ways that affect the Earth’s climate.”

An article at odds with this statement recently appeared in an online newsletter of the APS Forum on Physics and Society, one of 39 units of APS. The header of this newsletter carries the statement that “Opinions expressed are those of the authors alone and do not necessarily reflect the views of the APS or of the Forum.” This newsletter is not a journal of the APS and it is not peer reviewed.[/quote]

That’s just politics. They are more concerned with getting grant money to do their projects and keeping their job. This means appeasing the Global Warming crowd to the extent possible.

[jficquette]

[quote=esmith]http://www.aps.org/

APS Position Remains Unchanged

The American Physical Society reaffirms the following position on climate change, adopted by its governing body, the APS Council, on November 18, 2007:

“Emissions of greenhouse gases from human activities are changing the atmosphere in ways that affect the Earth’s climate.”

An article at odds with this statement recently appeared in an online newsletter of the APS Forum on Physics and Society, one of 39 units of APS. The header of this newsletter carries the statement that “Opinions expressed are those of the authors alone and do not necessarily reflect the views of the APS or of the Forum.” This newsletter is not a journal of the APS and it is not peer reviewed.[/quote]

That’s just politics. They are more concerned with getting grant money to do their projects and keeping their job. This means appeasing the Global Warming crowd to the extent possible.

[jficquette]

[quote=esmith]http://www.aps.org/

APS Position Remains Unchanged

The American Physical Society reaffirms the following position on climate change, adopted by its governing body, the APS Council, on November 18, 2007:

“Emissions of greenhouse gases from human activities are changing the atmosphere in ways that affect the Earth’s climate.”

An article at odds with this statement recently appeared in an online newsletter of the APS Forum on Physics and Society, one of 39 units of APS. The header of this newsletter carries the statement that “Opinions expressed are those of the authors alone and do not necessarily reflect the views of the APS or of the Forum.” This newsletter is not a journal of the APS and it is not peer reviewed.[/quote]

That’s just politics. They are more concerned with getting grant money to do their projects and keeping their job. This means appeasing the Global Warming crowd to the extent possible.

[jficquette]

[quote=esmith]http://www.aps.org/

APS Position Remains Unchanged

The American Physical Society reaffirms the following position on climate change, adopted by its governing body, the APS Council, on November 18, 2007:

“Emissions of greenhouse gases from human activities are changing the atmosphere in ways that affect the Earth’s climate.”

An article at odds with this statement recently appeared in an online newsletter of the APS Forum on Physics and Society, one of 39 units of APS. The header of this newsletter carries the statement that “Opinions expressed are those of the authors alone and do not necessarily reflect the views of the APS or of the Forum.” This newsletter is not a journal of the APS and it is not peer reviewed.[/quote]

That’s just politics. They are more concerned with getting grant money to do their projects and keeping their job. This means appeasing the Global Warming crowd to the extent possible.

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