Off Topic “Judge rules activist’s beliefs on climate change akin to religion”

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=jficquette][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.[/quote]

Kind of like libertarianism or Ron Paul.[/quote]

Where has libertarianism been tried?[/quote]
Neither true Marxism nor true libertarianism has ever been tried (ironically, both versions involve no government in the final product).
However, we have seen periods of very serious government control over the means of production and distribution and we have seen periods of very little control.
Both are unsustainable in a long term sense.
Every time the political relationship with the economy has been extreme (in either direction) it has been cured with revolution (eg: Russia, China, US) or reform (eg: Russia, China, US).

In the United States we had a revolution due to unreasonable crown control over commerce. This was followed first by a new strong government 13 years later and then several decades later by the reforms of Sherman Anti-trust.

[sd_matt]

[quote=urbanrealtor]I think this is an article about John.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/area_man_passionate_defender_of%5B/quote%5D

“And let’s not forget that when the Constitution was ratified it brought freedom to every single American,”

LOL nice:)

[sd_matt]

[quote=urbanrealtor]I think this is an article about John.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/area_man_passionate_defender_of%5B/quote%5D

“And let’s not forget that when the Constitution was ratified it brought freedom to every single American,”

LOL nice:)

[sd_matt]

[quote=urbanrealtor]I think this is an article about John.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/area_man_passionate_defender_of%5B/quote%5D

“And let’s not forget that when the Constitution was ratified it brought freedom to every single American,”

LOL nice:)

[sd_matt]

[quote=urbanrealtor]I think this is an article about John.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/area_man_passionate_defender_of%5B/quote%5D

“And let’s not forget that when the Constitution was ratified it brought freedom to every single American,”

LOL nice:)

[sd_matt]

[quote=urbanrealtor]I think this is an article about John.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/area_man_passionate_defender_of%5B/quote%5D

“And let’s not forget that when the Constitution was ratified it brought freedom to every single American,”

LOL nice:)

[davelj]

[quote=jficquette][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.[/quote]

Kind of like libertarianism or Ron Paul.[/quote]

Where has libertarianism been tried?[/quote]

In the United States from about 1777 until either 1890 (Sherman Anti-trust Act) or 1913 (Federal Reserve Act), depending on your point of view. For white men only, of course. Coincidentally – or not – that period in the US (particularly the Industrial Revolution – pick your dates) represented the most rapid advancement of living standards ever recorded (again, principally for white folks). And while the treatment of slaves was horrible (it goes without saying), slavery was probably a long-term detriment to the South, as it enabled the South to carry on an agrarian-based economy (with fewer technological advancements) longer than otherwise would have been possible.

[davelj]

[quote=jficquette][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.[/quote]

Kind of like libertarianism or Ron Paul.[/quote]

Where has libertarianism been tried?[/quote]

In the United States from about 1777 until either 1890 (Sherman Anti-trust Act) or 1913 (Federal Reserve Act), depending on your point of view. For white men only, of course. Coincidentally – or not – that period in the US (particularly the Industrial Revolution – pick your dates) represented the most rapid advancement of living standards ever recorded (again, principally for white folks). And while the treatment of slaves was horrible (it goes without saying), slavery was probably a long-term detriment to the South, as it enabled the South to carry on an agrarian-based economy (with fewer technological advancements) longer than otherwise would have been possible.

[davelj]

[quote=jficquette][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.[/quote]

Kind of like libertarianism or Ron Paul.[/quote]

Where has libertarianism been tried?[/quote]

In the United States from about 1777 until either 1890 (Sherman Anti-trust Act) or 1913 (Federal Reserve Act), depending on your point of view. For white men only, of course. Coincidentally – or not – that period in the US (particularly the Industrial Revolution – pick your dates) represented the most rapid advancement of living standards ever recorded (again, principally for white folks). And while the treatment of slaves was horrible (it goes without saying), slavery was probably a long-term detriment to the South, as it enabled the South to carry on an agrarian-based economy (with fewer technological advancements) longer than otherwise would have been possible.

[davelj]

[quote=jficquette][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.[/quote]

Kind of like libertarianism or Ron Paul.[/quote]

Where has libertarianism been tried?[/quote]

In the United States from about 1777 until either 1890 (Sherman Anti-trust Act) or 1913 (Federal Reserve Act), depending on your point of view. For white men only, of course. Coincidentally – or not – that period in the US (particularly the Industrial Revolution – pick your dates) represented the most rapid advancement of living standards ever recorded (again, principally for white folks). And while the treatment of slaves was horrible (it goes without saying), slavery was probably a long-term detriment to the South, as it enabled the South to carry on an agrarian-based economy (with fewer technological advancements) longer than otherwise would have been possible.

[davelj]

[quote=jficquette][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.[/quote]

Kind of like libertarianism or Ron Paul.[/quote]

Where has libertarianism been tried?[/quote]

In the United States from about 1777 until either 1890 (Sherman Anti-trust Act) or 1913 (Federal Reserve Act), depending on your point of view. For white men only, of course. Coincidentally – or not – that period in the US (particularly the Industrial Revolution – pick your dates) represented the most rapid advancement of living standards ever recorded (again, principally for white folks). And while the treatment of slaves was horrible (it goes without saying), slavery was probably a long-term detriment to the South, as it enabled the South to carry on an agrarian-based economy (with fewer technological advancements) longer than otherwise would have been possible.

[jficquette]

[quote=davelj][quote=jficquette][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.[/quote]

Kind of like libertarianism or Ron Paul.[/quote]

Where has libertarianism been tried?[/quote]

In the United States from about 1777 until either 1890 (Sherman Anti-trust Act) or 1913 (Federal Reserve Act), depending on your point of view. For white men only, of course. Coincidentally – or not – that period in the US (particularly the Industrial Revolution – pick your dates) represented the most rapid advancement of living standards ever recorded (again, principally for white folks). And while the treatment of slaves was horrible (it goes without saying), slavery was probably a long-term detriment to the South, as it enabled the South to carry on an agrarian-based economy (with fewer technological advancements) longer than otherwise would have been possible.[/quote]

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[jficquette]

[quote=davelj][quote=jficquette][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.[/quote]

Kind of like libertarianism or Ron Paul.[/quote]

Where has libertarianism been tried?[/quote]

In the United States from about 1777 until either 1890 (Sherman Anti-trust Act) or 1913 (Federal Reserve Act), depending on your point of view. For white men only, of course. Coincidentally – or not – that period in the US (particularly the Industrial Revolution – pick your dates) represented the most rapid advancement of living standards ever recorded (again, principally for white folks). And while the treatment of slaves was horrible (it goes without saying), slavery was probably a long-term detriment to the South, as it enabled the South to carry on an agrarian-based economy (with fewer technological advancements) longer than otherwise would have been possible.[/quote]

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[jficquette]

[quote=davelj][quote=jficquette][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.[/quote]

Kind of like libertarianism or Ron Paul.[/quote]

Where has libertarianism been tried?[/quote]

In the United States from about 1777 until either 1890 (Sherman Anti-trust Act) or 1913 (Federal Reserve Act), depending on your point of view. For white men only, of course. Coincidentally – or not – that period in the US (particularly the Industrial Revolution – pick your dates) represented the most rapid advancement of living standards ever recorded (again, principally for white folks). And while the treatment of slaves was horrible (it goes without saying), slavery was probably a long-term detriment to the South, as it enabled the South to carry on an agrarian-based economy (with fewer technological advancements) longer than otherwise would have been possible.[/quote]

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[jficquette]

[quote=davelj][quote=jficquette][quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.[/quote]

Kind of like libertarianism or Ron Paul.[/quote]

Where has libertarianism been tried?[/quote]

In the United States from about 1777 until either 1890 (Sherman Anti-trust Act) or 1913 (Federal Reserve Act), depending on your point of view. For white men only, of course. Coincidentally – or not – that period in the US (particularly the Industrial Revolution – pick your dates) represented the most rapid advancement of living standards ever recorded (again, principally for white folks). And while the treatment of slaves was horrible (it goes without saying), slavery was probably a long-term detriment to the South, as it enabled the South to carry on an agrarian-based economy (with fewer technological advancements) longer than otherwise would have been possible.[/quote]

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