Off Topic “Judge rules activist’s beliefs on climate change akin to religion”

[jficquette]

I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.

In his written judgment, Mr Justice Burton outlined five tests to determine whether a philosophical belief could come under employment regulations on religious discrimination

• The belief must be genuinely held.

• It must be a belief and not an opinion or view based on the present state of information available.

• It must be a belief as to a weighty and substantial aspect of human life.

• It must attain a certain level of cogency, seriousness, cohesion and importance.

• It must be worthy of respect in a democratic society, not incompatible with human dignity and not conflict with the fundamental rights of others.

Humanism was given as an example meeting the criteria, while belief in a political party or the supreme nature of Jedi knights, from the Star Wars movies, were offered as ones that do not.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/03/tim-nicholson-climate-change-belief

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.[/quote]

Kind of like libertarianism or Ron Paul.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.[/quote]

Kind of like libertarianism or Ron Paul.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.[/quote]

Kind of like libertarianism or Ron Paul.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.[/quote]

Kind of like libertarianism or Ron Paul.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.[/quote]

Kind of like libertarianism or Ron Paul.

[urbanrealtor]

Would that make Ayn Rand Muhammed?

[urbanrealtor]

Would that make Ayn Rand Muhammed?

[urbanrealtor]

Would that make Ayn Rand Muhammed?

[urbanrealtor]

Would that make Ayn Rand Muhammed?

[urbanrealtor]

Would that make Ayn Rand Muhammed?

[SK in CV]

If you ignore the present state of information available (part of the judge’s definition of “belief”) you might be right here.

[quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.
[/quote]

Except for China, Viet Nam, Laos, North Korea. You might argue, even successfully, that none of those are countries most of us would want to live in, they are working.

I suspect you are arguing that we, in the US, are moving towards socialism with the proposed health care reform. Ignoring, again, for the moment the sheer idiocy of the claim, the UK has true socialized medicine. Canada does not, but it’s much closer to socialized medicine than anything that is currently being proposed. Both are working quite well.

Argument fails.

[SK in CV]

If you ignore the present state of information available (part of the judge’s definition of “belief”) you might be right here.

[quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.
[/quote]

Except for China, Viet Nam, Laos, North Korea. You might argue, even successfully, that none of those are countries most of us would want to live in, they are working.

I suspect you are arguing that we, in the US, are moving towards socialism with the proposed health care reform. Ignoring, again, for the moment the sheer idiocy of the claim, the UK has true socialized medicine. Canada does not, but it’s much closer to socialized medicine than anything that is currently being proposed. Both are working quite well.

Argument fails.

[SK in CV]

If you ignore the present state of information available (part of the judge’s definition of “belief”) you might be right here.

[quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.
[/quote]

Except for China, Viet Nam, Laos, North Korea. You might argue, even successfully, that none of those are countries most of us would want to live in, they are working.

I suspect you are arguing that we, in the US, are moving towards socialism with the proposed health care reform. Ignoring, again, for the moment the sheer idiocy of the claim, the UK has true socialized medicine. Canada does not, but it’s much closer to socialized medicine than anything that is currently being proposed. Both are working quite well.

Argument fails.

[SK in CV]

If you ignore the present state of information available (part of the judge’s definition of “belief”) you might be right here.

[quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.
[/quote]

Except for China, Viet Nam, Laos, North Korea. You might argue, even successfully, that none of those are countries most of us would want to live in, they are working.

I suspect you are arguing that we, in the US, are moving towards socialism with the proposed health care reform. Ignoring, again, for the moment the sheer idiocy of the claim, the UK has true socialized medicine. Canada does not, but it’s much closer to socialized medicine than anything that is currently being proposed. Both are working quite well.

Argument fails.

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