Off Topic “Judge rules activist’s beliefs on climate change akin to religion”

[SK in CV]

If you ignore the present state of information available (part of the judge’s definition of “belief”) you might be right here.

[quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.
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Except for China, Viet Nam, Laos, North Korea. You might argue, even successfully, that none of those are countries most of us would want to live in, they are working.

I suspect you are arguing that we, in the US, are moving towards socialism with the proposed health care reform. Ignoring, again, for the moment the sheer idiocy of the claim, the UK has true socialized medicine. Canada does not, but it’s much closer to socialized medicine than anything that is currently being proposed. Both are working quite well.

Argument fails.

[Arraya]

He did not rule CC not a science. He ruled his understanding on how do deal with it akin to a religion. Unlike the religion of completely ignoring the earth, as if we are some how separate from it and unaffected. Monumental difference to the point you are trying to make.

All political, economic and social systems are belief systems by definition, exactly like a religion. From big government totalitarian socialism to free market barbarism or our current model of state sponsored gangsterism.

Science operates under a different set of rules.

Somewhere along the line the ruling class converted christians to capitalists as their new religion.

We now live in a time where science shows, and actually common sense at this point, unfettered exploitation of the earth’s resourced coupled with population dynamics and the subsequent polluting of the environment is going to lead to a really shitty future for the vast majority, to the contrary of the invisible hand mythology.

So, what do capitalist religious zealots do? Claim the findings declaring their religion not working are based on a persons desire for a specific governing system rather than the findings driving that persons understanding. Hence projecting their own zealotry.

[Arraya]

He did not rule CC not a science. He ruled his understanding on how do deal with it akin to a religion. Unlike the religion of completely ignoring the earth, as if we are some how separate from it and unaffected. Monumental difference to the point you are trying to make.

All political, economic and social systems are belief systems by definition, exactly like a religion. From big government totalitarian socialism to free market barbarism or our current model of state sponsored gangsterism.

Science operates under a different set of rules.

Somewhere along the line the ruling class converted christians to capitalists as their new religion.

We now live in a time where science shows, and actually common sense at this point, unfettered exploitation of the earth’s resourced coupled with population dynamics and the subsequent polluting of the environment is going to lead to a really shitty future for the vast majority, to the contrary of the invisible hand mythology.

So, what do capitalist religious zealots do? Claim the findings declaring their religion not working are based on a persons desire for a specific governing system rather than the findings driving that persons understanding. Hence projecting their own zealotry.

[Arraya]

He did not rule CC not a science. He ruled his understanding on how do deal with it akin to a religion. Unlike the religion of completely ignoring the earth, as if we are some how separate from it and unaffected. Monumental difference to the point you are trying to make.

All political, economic and social systems are belief systems by definition, exactly like a religion. From big government totalitarian socialism to free market barbarism or our current model of state sponsored gangsterism.

Science operates under a different set of rules.

Somewhere along the line the ruling class converted christians to capitalists as their new religion.

We now live in a time where science shows, and actually common sense at this point, unfettered exploitation of the earth’s resourced coupled with population dynamics and the subsequent polluting of the environment is going to lead to a really shitty future for the vast majority, to the contrary of the invisible hand mythology.

So, what do capitalist religious zealots do? Claim the findings declaring their religion not working are based on a persons desire for a specific governing system rather than the findings driving that persons understanding. Hence projecting their own zealotry.

[Arraya]

He did not rule CC not a science. He ruled his understanding on how do deal with it akin to a religion. Unlike the religion of completely ignoring the earth, as if we are some how separate from it and unaffected. Monumental difference to the point you are trying to make.

All political, economic and social systems are belief systems by definition, exactly like a religion. From big government totalitarian socialism to free market barbarism or our current model of state sponsored gangsterism.

Science operates under a different set of rules.

Somewhere along the line the ruling class converted christians to capitalists as their new religion.

We now live in a time where science shows, and actually common sense at this point, unfettered exploitation of the earth’s resourced coupled with population dynamics and the subsequent polluting of the environment is going to lead to a really shitty future for the vast majority, to the contrary of the invisible hand mythology.

So, what do capitalist religious zealots do? Claim the findings declaring their religion not working are based on a persons desire for a specific governing system rather than the findings driving that persons understanding. Hence projecting their own zealotry.

[Arraya]

He did not rule CC not a science. He ruled his understanding on how do deal with it akin to a religion. Unlike the religion of completely ignoring the earth, as if we are some how separate from it and unaffected. Monumental difference to the point you are trying to make.

All political, economic and social systems are belief systems by definition, exactly like a religion. From big government totalitarian socialism to free market barbarism or our current model of state sponsored gangsterism.

Science operates under a different set of rules.

Somewhere along the line the ruling class converted christians to capitalists as their new religion.

We now live in a time where science shows, and actually common sense at this point, unfettered exploitation of the earth’s resourced coupled with population dynamics and the subsequent polluting of the environment is going to lead to a really shitty future for the vast majority, to the contrary of the invisible hand mythology.

So, what do capitalist religious zealots do? Claim the findings declaring their religion not working are based on a persons desire for a specific governing system rather than the findings driving that persons understanding. Hence projecting their own zealotry.

[urbanrealtor]

I think this is an article about John.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/area_man_passionate_defender_of

[urbanrealtor]

I think this is an article about John.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/area_man_passionate_defender_of

[urbanrealtor]

I think this is an article about John.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/area_man_passionate_defender_of

[urbanrealtor]

I think this is an article about John.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/area_man_passionate_defender_of

[urbanrealtor]

I think this is an article about John.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/area_man_passionate_defender_of

[jficquette]

[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.[/quote]

Kind of like libertarianism or Ron Paul.[/quote]

Where has libertarianism been tried?

[jficquette]

[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.[/quote]

Kind of like libertarianism or Ron Paul.[/quote]

Where has libertarianism been tried?

[jficquette]

[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.[/quote]

Kind of like libertarianism or Ron Paul.[/quote]

Where has libertarianism been tried?

[jficquette]

[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=jficquette]I though point number 2 was interesting in that I could see how belief in an all powerful government utilizing Socialism could be defined as a religion considering it has never worked anywhere its been tried yet so many people still have faith in it.[/quote]

Kind of like libertarianism or Ron Paul.[/quote]

Where has libertarianism been tried?

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