Off Topic: Obama Sued in Philly Fed Court by Dem Activist

[jficquette]

[quote=SDEngineer][quote=arraya]Yes, I really did just bust out a Yoda quote to show how ridiculous they are.

A: I think McCain is a slightly bigger nightmere than Obama
B: The question I posed is valid.
C: I did not say it was fake. I stated the use of “African” to describe a black person was not commonly used if at all in 1961, therefore it is suspect.

Any google search on the political correctness movement can cite this. It’s well documented.

So again how was my question ridiculous? In what way?
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So? Assuming that the hospital has upgraded their records to computer storage, it’s very likely they standardized the entries at the same time they did this. Nobody as far as I know is claiming that this is an ORIGINAL birth certificate from the 60’s, it’s a certified copy from hospital records (in fact, the copy I’ve seen on the web clearly isn’t, since it is clearly computer printed as opposed to hand-typed.)

It’s very likely that what happened is that the hospital when placing those records into the computer simply standardized on the currently PC choices, rather than have older records use different terminology for race.

I find this a more likely ad-hoc explanation than the alternative which implies a pretty massive conspiracy that has held up to decades of public service.

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Decades of public service?? He has been in the Senate one term, served 4 years as a state legislator.

John

[afx114]

Lets assume your claim that Obama is not a natural born citizen is true. It follows that he must either be:

a) A naturalized citizen
OR
b) An illegal alien

If a), he would be in the INS database as so.
Otherwise, he is b) An illegal alien.

Answer this simple question: Is Obama a naturalized citizen, or an illegal alien?

[afx114]

Lets assume your claim that Obama is not a natural born citizen is true. It follows that he must either be:

a) A naturalized citizen
OR
b) An illegal alien

If a), he would be in the INS database as so.
Otherwise, he is b) An illegal alien.

Answer this simple question: Is Obama a naturalized citizen, or an illegal alien?

[afx114]

Lets assume your claim that Obama is not a natural born citizen is true. It follows that he must either be:

a) A naturalized citizen
OR
b) An illegal alien

If a), he would be in the INS database as so.
Otherwise, he is b) An illegal alien.

Answer this simple question: Is Obama a naturalized citizen, or an illegal alien?

[afx114]

Lets assume your claim that Obama is not a natural born citizen is true. It follows that he must either be:

a) A naturalized citizen
OR
b) An illegal alien

If a), he would be in the INS database as so.
Otherwise, he is b) An illegal alien.

Answer this simple question: Is Obama a naturalized citizen, or an illegal alien?

[afx114]

Lets assume your claim that Obama is not a natural born citizen is true. It follows that he must either be:

a) A naturalized citizen
OR
b) An illegal alien

If a), he would be in the INS database as so.
Otherwise, he is b) An illegal alien.

Answer this simple question: Is Obama a naturalized citizen, or an illegal alien?

[jficquette]

[quote=afx114]Lets assume your claim that Obama is not a natural born citizen is true. It follows that he must either be:

a) A naturalized citizen
OR
b) An illegal alien

If a), he would be in the INS database as so.
Otherwise, he is b) An illegal alien.

Answer this simple question: Is Obama a naturalized citizen, or an illegal alien?[/quote]

Naturalized citizen is not the same as a Natural Born citizen.

There are 3 choices. He is an illegal, a naturalized citizen or a natural born citizen.

I have no clue as to what he is however the natural born citizen is the only one that can be Prez.

John

[jficquette]

[quote=afx114]Lets assume your claim that Obama is not a natural born citizen is true. It follows that he must either be:

a) A naturalized citizen
OR
b) An illegal alien

If a), he would be in the INS database as so.
Otherwise, he is b) An illegal alien.

Answer this simple question: Is Obama a naturalized citizen, or an illegal alien?[/quote]

Naturalized citizen is not the same as a Natural Born citizen.

There are 3 choices. He is an illegal, a naturalized citizen or a natural born citizen.

I have no clue as to what he is however the natural born citizen is the only one that can be Prez.

John

[jficquette]

[quote=afx114]Lets assume your claim that Obama is not a natural born citizen is true. It follows that he must either be:

a) A naturalized citizen
OR
b) An illegal alien

If a), he would be in the INS database as so.
Otherwise, he is b) An illegal alien.

Answer this simple question: Is Obama a naturalized citizen, or an illegal alien?[/quote]

Naturalized citizen is not the same as a Natural Born citizen.

There are 3 choices. He is an illegal, a naturalized citizen or a natural born citizen.

I have no clue as to what he is however the natural born citizen is the only one that can be Prez.

John

[jficquette]

[quote=afx114]Lets assume your claim that Obama is not a natural born citizen is true. It follows that he must either be:

a) A naturalized citizen
OR
b) An illegal alien

If a), he would be in the INS database as so.
Otherwise, he is b) An illegal alien.

Answer this simple question: Is Obama a naturalized citizen, or an illegal alien?[/quote]

Naturalized citizen is not the same as a Natural Born citizen.

There are 3 choices. He is an illegal, a naturalized citizen or a natural born citizen.

I have no clue as to what he is however the natural born citizen is the only one that can be Prez.

John

[jficquette]

[quote=afx114]Lets assume your claim that Obama is not a natural born citizen is true. It follows that he must either be:

a) A naturalized citizen
OR
b) An illegal alien

If a), he would be in the INS database as so.
Otherwise, he is b) An illegal alien.

Answer this simple question: Is Obama a naturalized citizen, or an illegal alien?[/quote]

Naturalized citizen is not the same as a Natural Born citizen.

There are 3 choices. He is an illegal, a naturalized citizen or a natural born citizen.

I have no clue as to what he is however the natural born citizen is the only one that can be Prez.

John

[afx114]

[quote=jficquette]I have no clue as to what he is however the natural born citizen is the only one that can be Prez.[/quote]

Ah, so you admit that you don’t know which of the 3 he is, but you know for a fact that he is not a natural born citizen. That does not make sense. Either you know or you don’t. Which one is it?

I gave you three options and eliminated the one you claim he is not (natural born citizen). Therefore two options remain: naturalized citizen or illegal alien.

If he is a naturalized citizen, it would be trivial to find out by querying the INS. Surely the Illinois Senate has done so. Surely the US Senate has done so. Surely the DNC has done so. Surely the CIA, FBI, and Secret Service has done so. Even if I give you your claim that illegals can easily attend Columbia and Harvard, it does not follow that he is an illegal alien. So if he is neither a natural born citizen, nor a naturalized citizen, it remains that he is an illegal alien based on your logic. That’s a bold claim. Especially in the face of all the facts that prove otherwise.

Check. Mate.

[afx114]

[quote=jficquette]I have no clue as to what he is however the natural born citizen is the only one that can be Prez.[/quote]

Ah, so you admit that you don’t know which of the 3 he is, but you know for a fact that he is not a natural born citizen. That does not make sense. Either you know or you don’t. Which one is it?

I gave you three options and eliminated the one you claim he is not (natural born citizen). Therefore two options remain: naturalized citizen or illegal alien.

If he is a naturalized citizen, it would be trivial to find out by querying the INS. Surely the Illinois Senate has done so. Surely the US Senate has done so. Surely the DNC has done so. Surely the CIA, FBI, and Secret Service has done so. Even if I give you your claim that illegals can easily attend Columbia and Harvard, it does not follow that he is an illegal alien. So if he is neither a natural born citizen, nor a naturalized citizen, it remains that he is an illegal alien based on your logic. That’s a bold claim. Especially in the face of all the facts that prove otherwise.

Check. Mate.

[afx114]

[quote=jficquette]I have no clue as to what he is however the natural born citizen is the only one that can be Prez.[/quote]

Ah, so you admit that you don’t know which of the 3 he is, but you know for a fact that he is not a natural born citizen. That does not make sense. Either you know or you don’t. Which one is it?

I gave you three options and eliminated the one you claim he is not (natural born citizen). Therefore two options remain: naturalized citizen or illegal alien.

If he is a naturalized citizen, it would be trivial to find out by querying the INS. Surely the Illinois Senate has done so. Surely the US Senate has done so. Surely the DNC has done so. Surely the CIA, FBI, and Secret Service has done so. Even if I give you your claim that illegals can easily attend Columbia and Harvard, it does not follow that he is an illegal alien. So if he is neither a natural born citizen, nor a naturalized citizen, it remains that he is an illegal alien based on your logic. That’s a bold claim. Especially in the face of all the facts that prove otherwise.

Check. Mate.

[afx114]

[quote=jficquette]I have no clue as to what he is however the natural born citizen is the only one that can be Prez.[/quote]

Ah, so you admit that you don’t know which of the 3 he is, but you know for a fact that he is not a natural born citizen. That does not make sense. Either you know or you don’t. Which one is it?

I gave you three options and eliminated the one you claim he is not (natural born citizen). Therefore two options remain: naturalized citizen or illegal alien.

If he is a naturalized citizen, it would be trivial to find out by querying the INS. Surely the Illinois Senate has done so. Surely the US Senate has done so. Surely the DNC has done so. Surely the CIA, FBI, and Secret Service has done so. Even if I give you your claim that illegals can easily attend Columbia and Harvard, it does not follow that he is an illegal alien. So if he is neither a natural born citizen, nor a naturalized citizen, it remains that he is an illegal alien based on your logic. That’s a bold claim. Especially in the face of all the facts that prove otherwise.

Check. Mate.

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