Off Topic: Obama Sued in Philly Fed Court by Dem Activist

[Allan from Fallbrook]

John: The only problem with the RNC keeping their mouth shut is this: They are bound by electoral laws governing conduct, and much as attornies are bound by the Canon of Ethics as officers of the court and are duty bound to report certain things, the RNC would find itself in pretty deep water, along the lines of the Watergate investigation into Nixon (“What did the President know and when did he know it?”).

If they know (and that is a mighty big “if”), then they have no choice but to divulge that information and immediately.

Again, if this story genuinely had legs, someone at the NYT or WSJ or WashPost would have spilled the beans. We live in such an information driven age, and a 24/7 news cycle that this would have been an epic headline. Forget the FBI, the MSM would have exploded this across the headlines.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=arraya]

I would think that a hospital would keep it on microfiche and copy that, but who knows, that is possible. My point is there are no crazy questions. Conspiracy has become such a derogatory term that we have gotten to the point if anybody ever claims a conspiracy they are automatically outcast from society. That is a pretty good set up for the controlling powers. You’re automatically crazy for asking. Like were all conditioned not to look behind the curtain and castigated by the herd if we do.

[/quote]

Microfiche storage requires a lot more space than computer storage, as well as upkeep as the medium deteriorates. I have my original birth certificate from my NY hospital. It doesn’t come close to being identical with the newer one I got when I applied for my passport a few years ago (couldn’t find my original ’68 copy when I needed the passport, just found it yesterday while cleaning out some old boxes).

Conspiracy theories have their place, but in general, I don’t find long term conspiracies very credible. And I think that at the point where it’s clear that Obama would have to have multiple governmental agencies in his pocket to have this conspiracy work (and have had them there since before he was more than just a good speaker running for a state legislative office) it becomes so unlikely that it’s clear that the right is simply grasping at any straw they can in an attempt to discredit Obama.

Considering that this has been the tactic of the Republican party ever since Karl Rove got his grubby little hands on the election machinery, I find this a FAR more likely explanation of this conspiracy theory.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=arraya]

I would think that a hospital would keep it on microfiche and copy that, but who knows, that is possible. My point is there are no crazy questions. Conspiracy has become such a derogatory term that we have gotten to the point if anybody ever claims a conspiracy they are automatically outcast from society. That is a pretty good set up for the controlling powers. You’re automatically crazy for asking. Like were all conditioned not to look behind the curtain and castigated by the herd if we do.

[/quote]

Microfiche storage requires a lot more space than computer storage, as well as upkeep as the medium deteriorates. I have my original birth certificate from my NY hospital. It doesn’t come close to being identical with the newer one I got when I applied for my passport a few years ago (couldn’t find my original ’68 copy when I needed the passport, just found it yesterday while cleaning out some old boxes).

Conspiracy theories have their place, but in general, I don’t find long term conspiracies very credible. And I think that at the point where it’s clear that Obama would have to have multiple governmental agencies in his pocket to have this conspiracy work (and have had them there since before he was more than just a good speaker running for a state legislative office) it becomes so unlikely that it’s clear that the right is simply grasping at any straw they can in an attempt to discredit Obama.

Considering that this has been the tactic of the Republican party ever since Karl Rove got his grubby little hands on the election machinery, I find this a FAR more likely explanation of this conspiracy theory.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=arraya]

I would think that a hospital would keep it on microfiche and copy that, but who knows, that is possible. My point is there are no crazy questions. Conspiracy has become such a derogatory term that we have gotten to the point if anybody ever claims a conspiracy they are automatically outcast from society. That is a pretty good set up for the controlling powers. You’re automatically crazy for asking. Like were all conditioned not to look behind the curtain and castigated by the herd if we do.

[/quote]

Microfiche storage requires a lot more space than computer storage, as well as upkeep as the medium deteriorates. I have my original birth certificate from my NY hospital. It doesn’t come close to being identical with the newer one I got when I applied for my passport a few years ago (couldn’t find my original ’68 copy when I needed the passport, just found it yesterday while cleaning out some old boxes).

Conspiracy theories have their place, but in general, I don’t find long term conspiracies very credible. And I think that at the point where it’s clear that Obama would have to have multiple governmental agencies in his pocket to have this conspiracy work (and have had them there since before he was more than just a good speaker running for a state legislative office) it becomes so unlikely that it’s clear that the right is simply grasping at any straw they can in an attempt to discredit Obama.

Considering that this has been the tactic of the Republican party ever since Karl Rove got his grubby little hands on the election machinery, I find this a FAR more likely explanation of this conspiracy theory.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=arraya]

I would think that a hospital would keep it on microfiche and copy that, but who knows, that is possible. My point is there are no crazy questions. Conspiracy has become such a derogatory term that we have gotten to the point if anybody ever claims a conspiracy they are automatically outcast from society. That is a pretty good set up for the controlling powers. You’re automatically crazy for asking. Like were all conditioned not to look behind the curtain and castigated by the herd if we do.

[/quote]

Microfiche storage requires a lot more space than computer storage, as well as upkeep as the medium deteriorates. I have my original birth certificate from my NY hospital. It doesn’t come close to being identical with the newer one I got when I applied for my passport a few years ago (couldn’t find my original ’68 copy when I needed the passport, just found it yesterday while cleaning out some old boxes).

Conspiracy theories have their place, but in general, I don’t find long term conspiracies very credible. And I think that at the point where it’s clear that Obama would have to have multiple governmental agencies in his pocket to have this conspiracy work (and have had them there since before he was more than just a good speaker running for a state legislative office) it becomes so unlikely that it’s clear that the right is simply grasping at any straw they can in an attempt to discredit Obama.

Considering that this has been the tactic of the Republican party ever since Karl Rove got his grubby little hands on the election machinery, I find this a FAR more likely explanation of this conspiracy theory.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=arraya]

I would think that a hospital would keep it on microfiche and copy that, but who knows, that is possible. My point is there are no crazy questions. Conspiracy has become such a derogatory term that we have gotten to the point if anybody ever claims a conspiracy they are automatically outcast from society. That is a pretty good set up for the controlling powers. You’re automatically crazy for asking. Like were all conditioned not to look behind the curtain and castigated by the herd if we do.

[/quote]

Microfiche storage requires a lot more space than computer storage, as well as upkeep as the medium deteriorates. I have my original birth certificate from my NY hospital. It doesn’t come close to being identical with the newer one I got when I applied for my passport a few years ago (couldn’t find my original ’68 copy when I needed the passport, just found it yesterday while cleaning out some old boxes).

Conspiracy theories have their place, but in general, I don’t find long term conspiracies very credible. And I think that at the point where it’s clear that Obama would have to have multiple governmental agencies in his pocket to have this conspiracy work (and have had them there since before he was more than just a good speaker running for a state legislative office) it becomes so unlikely that it’s clear that the right is simply grasping at any straw they can in an attempt to discredit Obama.

Considering that this has been the tactic of the Republican party ever since Karl Rove got his grubby little hands on the election machinery, I find this a FAR more likely explanation of this conspiracy theory.

[jficquette]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: The only problem with the RNC keeping their mouth shut is this: They are bound by electoral laws governing conduct, and much as attornies are bound by the Canon of Ethics as officers of the court and are duty bound to report certain things, the RNC would find itself in pretty deep water, along the lines of the Watergate investigation into Nixon (“What did the President know and when did he know it?”).

If they know (and that is a mighty big “if”), then they have no choice but to divulge that information and immediately.

Again, if this story genuinely had legs, someone at the NYT or WSJ or WashPost would have spilled the beans. We live in such an information driven age, and a 24/7 news cycle that this would have been an epic headline. Forget the FBI, the MSM would have exploded this across the headlines.[/quote]

Allan,

What would you have the RNC report and to who?? This isn’t some complex caper. Its a simple birth certificate. There is nothing to divulge. Its not like knowing who robbed a bank or shot someone or bribed a judge.

As far as timing goes I believe the Media is so Obama they want it to go away and have no interest in discussing it. At the least they are just as confused as anybody. They probably can’t believe it hasn’t been checked either. They will have to address it soon because it appears to be gaining steam.

Thanks,

John

[jficquette]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: The only problem with the RNC keeping their mouth shut is this: They are bound by electoral laws governing conduct, and much as attornies are bound by the Canon of Ethics as officers of the court and are duty bound to report certain things, the RNC would find itself in pretty deep water, along the lines of the Watergate investigation into Nixon (“What did the President know and when did he know it?”).

If they know (and that is a mighty big “if”), then they have no choice but to divulge that information and immediately.

Again, if this story genuinely had legs, someone at the NYT or WSJ or WashPost would have spilled the beans. We live in such an information driven age, and a 24/7 news cycle that this would have been an epic headline. Forget the FBI, the MSM would have exploded this across the headlines.[/quote]

Allan,

What would you have the RNC report and to who?? This isn’t some complex caper. Its a simple birth certificate. There is nothing to divulge. Its not like knowing who robbed a bank or shot someone or bribed a judge.

As far as timing goes I believe the Media is so Obama they want it to go away and have no interest in discussing it. At the least they are just as confused as anybody. They probably can’t believe it hasn’t been checked either. They will have to address it soon because it appears to be gaining steam.

Thanks,

John

[jficquette]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: The only problem with the RNC keeping their mouth shut is this: They are bound by electoral laws governing conduct, and much as attornies are bound by the Canon of Ethics as officers of the court and are duty bound to report certain things, the RNC would find itself in pretty deep water, along the lines of the Watergate investigation into Nixon (“What did the President know and when did he know it?”).

If they know (and that is a mighty big “if”), then they have no choice but to divulge that information and immediately.

Again, if this story genuinely had legs, someone at the NYT or WSJ or WashPost would have spilled the beans. We live in such an information driven age, and a 24/7 news cycle that this would have been an epic headline. Forget the FBI, the MSM would have exploded this across the headlines.[/quote]

Allan,

What would you have the RNC report and to who?? This isn’t some complex caper. Its a simple birth certificate. There is nothing to divulge. Its not like knowing who robbed a bank or shot someone or bribed a judge.

As far as timing goes I believe the Media is so Obama they want it to go away and have no interest in discussing it. At the least they are just as confused as anybody. They probably can’t believe it hasn’t been checked either. They will have to address it soon because it appears to be gaining steam.

Thanks,

John

[jficquette]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: The only problem with the RNC keeping their mouth shut is this: They are bound by electoral laws governing conduct, and much as attornies are bound by the Canon of Ethics as officers of the court and are duty bound to report certain things, the RNC would find itself in pretty deep water, along the lines of the Watergate investigation into Nixon (“What did the President know and when did he know it?”).

If they know (and that is a mighty big “if”), then they have no choice but to divulge that information and immediately.

Again, if this story genuinely had legs, someone at the NYT or WSJ or WashPost would have spilled the beans. We live in such an information driven age, and a 24/7 news cycle that this would have been an epic headline. Forget the FBI, the MSM would have exploded this across the headlines.[/quote]

Allan,

What would you have the RNC report and to who?? This isn’t some complex caper. Its a simple birth certificate. There is nothing to divulge. Its not like knowing who robbed a bank or shot someone or bribed a judge.

As far as timing goes I believe the Media is so Obama they want it to go away and have no interest in discussing it. At the least they are just as confused as anybody. They probably can’t believe it hasn’t been checked either. They will have to address it soon because it appears to be gaining steam.

Thanks,

John

[jficquette]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: The only problem with the RNC keeping their mouth shut is this: They are bound by electoral laws governing conduct, and much as attornies are bound by the Canon of Ethics as officers of the court and are duty bound to report certain things, the RNC would find itself in pretty deep water, along the lines of the Watergate investigation into Nixon (“What did the President know and when did he know it?”).

If they know (and that is a mighty big “if”), then they have no choice but to divulge that information and immediately.

Again, if this story genuinely had legs, someone at the NYT or WSJ or WashPost would have spilled the beans. We live in such an information driven age, and a 24/7 news cycle that this would have been an epic headline. Forget the FBI, the MSM would have exploded this across the headlines.[/quote]

Allan,

What would you have the RNC report and to who?? This isn’t some complex caper. Its a simple birth certificate. There is nothing to divulge. Its not like knowing who robbed a bank or shot someone or bribed a judge.

As far as timing goes I believe the Media is so Obama they want it to go away and have no interest in discussing it. At the least they are just as confused as anybody. They probably can’t believe it hasn’t been checked either. They will have to address it soon because it appears to be gaining steam.

Thanks,

John

[gandalf]

Obama is a Senator, on the Foreign Relations Committee, and a candidate for President. His life has been investigated in minute detail, rest assured.

Serious times right now.

This topic is such crap.

[gandalf]

Obama is a Senator, on the Foreign Relations Committee, and a candidate for President. His life has been investigated in minute detail, rest assured.

Serious times right now.

This topic is such crap.

[gandalf]

Obama is a Senator, on the Foreign Relations Committee, and a candidate for President. His life has been investigated in minute detail, rest assured.

Serious times right now.

This topic is such crap.

[gandalf]

Obama is a Senator, on the Foreign Relations Committee, and a candidate for President. His life has been investigated in minute detail, rest assured.

Serious times right now.

This topic is such crap.

[Author]

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