Nationswide protests-will they spread?

[jstoesz]

[quote=Arraya]Interestingly major health gains for the human race were made from simple things like sanitation measures and understanding of nutrition. “Mircle” drugs and the medicalization in recent decades of so many of life’s vicissitudes—birth and death, for example—frequently cause more harm than good and rendered many people in effect lifelong patients. Modern medicine has not positively impacted modern life in aggregate.

The parabolic trajectory of unhealthy people over the past few decades props up the medical behemoth. With most of the unhealthyness caused by modern society..

Monetary success has less and less a corolation with really adding something beneficial to society as time goes on. We seem to profit off of problems generated by the same system. You might say, patterns of unhealthy behavior are needed for continuance.[/quote]

Cancer treatment has come a long way.

[markmax33]

[quote=briansd1]Ron Paul called the protest “legitimate effort”, rips Herman Cain.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/oct/18/news/la-pn-paul-cain-occupy-wall-street-20111018

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/05/ron-paul-calls-occupy-wall-street-a-legitimate-effort/%5B/quote%5D

He protects the common man.

[KSMountain]

[quote=Arraya]Interestingly major health gains for the human race were made from simple things like sanitation measures and understanding of nutrition. “Mircle” drugs and the medicalization in recent decades of so many of life’s vicissitudes—birth and death, for example—frequently cause more harm than good and rendered many people in effect lifelong patients. Modern medicine has not positively impacted modern life in aggregate.

The parabolic trajectory of unhealthy people over the past few decades props up the medical behemoth. With most of the unhealthyness caused by modern society..

Monetary success has less and less a corolation with really adding something beneficial to society as time goes on. We seem to profit off of problems generated by the same system. You might say, patterns of unhealthy behavior are needed for continuance.[/quote]
I agree with this. But I bet rare would be the person who, before receiving an angioplasty, would accuse their heart surgeon of being an unproductive member of the reviled 1%.

Taking the bigger picture, what is a productive profession? Are professional athletes or entertainers productive? I think some folks’ answer to that question might depend on whether they were a consumer of that particular form of entertainment. Is an airline pilot “productive”? What about a lawyer? They might seem useless – until you need one.

[briansd1]

I don’t think that we’re talking about individuals.

The unequal distribution of income and wealth in favor of the top 1% is not fair.

With privilege comes the responsibility to protect and provide for those who live below. That was true in feudal times of lords and kings. When the social contract is broken, there are revolts.

[Coronita]

While I might have agreed with the very very very original intent of OWS protests (the first few days), it’s really getting ridiculously Looney Tunes…

http://www.pasadenasun.com/news/tn-pas-1111-occupy-rose-parade,0,7558770.story

…..The rose parade?…..

How about a little more targeted focus ?????

[Coronita]

[quote=KSMountain][quote=Arraya]Interestingly major health gains for the human race were made from simple things like sanitation measures and understanding of nutrition. “Mircle” drugs and the medicalization in recent decades of so many of life’s vicissitudes—birth and death, for example—frequently cause more harm than good and rendered many people in effect lifelong patients. Modern medicine has not positively impacted modern life in aggregate.

The parabolic trajectory of unhealthy people over the past few decades props up the medical behemoth. With most of the unhealthyness caused by modern society..

Monetary success has less and less a corolation with really adding something beneficial to society as time goes on. We seem to profit off of problems generated by the same system. You might say, patterns of unhealthy behavior are needed for continuance.[/quote]
I agree with this. But I bet rare would be the person who, before receiving an angioplasty, would accuse their heart surgeon of being an unproductive member of the reviled 1%.

Taking the bigger picture, what is a productive profession? Are professional athletes or entertainers productive? I think some folks’ answer to that question might depend on whether they were a consumer of that particular form of entertainment. Is an airline pilot “productive”? What about a lawyer? They might seem useless – until you need one.[/quote]

I think we should be protesting the NBA for their ridiculous salaries and players union….By golly, a lot of the NBA teams are running in red ink and the government might need to bail them out soon too…

By golly if the government doesn’t do this, pretty soon, the NBA team owners are going to get creative and start outsourcing play time to overseas call centers for 10cents on the dollar…We might not see as breathtaking plays, but sure beats a lockout with no play…

[KSMountain]

Seems like it would make gambling more interesting. “You should see the new guy they got at the Bangalore call center – he’s HUGE…”

[briansd1]

With clearing of the Occupy protest sites, it seems like the message is that you can protest, but you cannot sleep or dirty up public spaces.

I’m sure that’s a message that Vladimir Putin or Hu Jintao will take to heart.

http://piggington.com/nationswide_protestswill_they_spread

[paramount]

[quote=flu]While I might have agreed with the very very very original intent of OWS protests (the first few days), it’s really getting ridiculously Looney Tunes…

http://www.pasadenasun.com/news/tn-pas-1111-occupy-rose-parade,0,7558770.story

…..The rose parade?…..

How about a little more targeted focus ?????[/quote]

Flu: It only seems that way; the press/elites are highlighting a certain element of the crowd and plastering that all over the MSM.

It’s a PsyOp by the elite.

[KSMountain]

[quote=paramount]
Flu: It only seems that way; the press/elites are highlighting a certain element of the crowd and plastering that all over the MSM.

It’s a PsyOp by the elite.[/quote]
You think the wiring is up to code in these encampments? Do you think there’s an extension cord or two in use? You think tents are flammable? How about the use of space heaters? I imagine a death from CO poisoning was/is only a few weeks away. Mark that prediction.

There’s a reason we have codes and regulations – it’s not to be dicks it’s because tragedies happen and people die and then the survivors demand action to prevent further occurrences. Remember all the folks who died at the nightclub in RI a few years back?

You think the sexual assaults were PsyOps? I don’t. I can easily believe they occurred – very easily. Would you want your 18 old daughter at one? Sure, a great civics lesson and all that, but when you get down to it, would you really encourage your child to dwell in that environment?

[KSMountain]

Is freedom of assembly absolute? For example, should folks be able to setup a tent city on the runway at LAX or in the control room at San Onofre?

“Who’s power plant? Our power plant!”. Great…

[paramount]

[quote=KSMountain][quote=paramount]
Flu: It only seems that way; the press/elites are highlighting a certain element of the crowd and plastering that all over the MSM.

It’s a PsyOp by the elite.[/quote]
You think the wiring is up to code in these encampments? Do you think there’s an extension cord or two in use? You think tents are flammable? How about the use of space heaters? I imagine a death from CO poisoning was/is only a few weeks away. Mark that prediction.

There’s a reason we have codes and regulations – it’s not to be dicks it’s because tragedies happen and people die and then the survivors demand action to prevent further occurrences. Remember all the folks who died at the nightclub in RI a few years back?

You think the sexual assaults were PsyOps? I don’t. I can easily believe they occurred – very easily. Would you want your 18 old daughter at one? Sure, a great civics lesson and all that, but when you get down to it, would you really encourage your child to dwell in that environment?[/quote]

Codes? Are you kidding me?

First of all, I have no idea if codes are being violated. Or if there really were assaults.

I will tell you this, protesting (especially against the powers that be) is a messy business – always has been, always will be.

[paramount]

[quote=KSMountain]Is freedom of assembly absolute? For example, should folks be able to setup a tent city on the runway at LAX or in the control room at San Onofre?

“Who’s power plant? Our power plant!”. Great…[/quote]

No it isn’t absolute. BTW, here’s the governments idea of freedom of assembly:

[img_assist|nid=15566|title=Freedom of Speech Zone at the 2004 DNC|desc=Freedom of Speech Zone at the 2004 DNC|link=node|align=left|width=440|height=330]

[Shadowfax]

[quote=ctr70]Instead they should be marching on the state capitols against the ridiculous pensions and health care benefits paid to Government worker retirees that is bankrupting the state and cities. That is where the real rape & pillage of the tax payer is happening.[/quote]

You are still drinking the propaganda Kool Aid.

[KSMountain]

[quote=paramount][quote=KSMountain]Is freedom of assembly absolute? For example, should folks be able to setup a tent city on the runway at LAX or in the control room at San Onofre?

“Who’s power plant? Our power plant!”. Great…[/quote]

No it isn’t absolute. BTW, here’s the governments idea of freedom of assembly:

[img_assist|nid=15566|title=Freedom of Speech Zone at the 2004 DNC|desc=Freedom of Speech Zone at the 2004 DNC|link=node|align=left|width=440|height=330][/quote]
Nice riposte. You have a point there.

I dunno though, aren’t there many many more avenues for widespread dissemination of ideas, even by the powerless, nowadays?

Not everyone wants a revolution. You get into your forties/fifties, most people have figured out how to manage the world so that it kind of interacts with them in ways they don’t find too noxious – why would they want to trade that for some unknown future offered by people in masks?

Will a Double-Double or a nice scotch still be available after you’ve “improved” everything? That’s what I need to know…

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