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January 21, 2008 at 9:27 PM #140641January 21, 2008 at 9:31 PM #140331anParticipant
Ah, OK. Thanks for explaining. That makes more sense now. So does that mean we’ll gap down tomorrow, or drift down? If we gap down, is there still a possibility to drift up to positive territory by day close?
January 21, 2008 at 9:31 PM #140548anParticipantAh, OK. Thanks for explaining. That makes more sense now. So does that mean we’ll gap down tomorrow, or drift down? If we gap down, is there still a possibility to drift up to positive territory by day close?
January 21, 2008 at 9:31 PM #140570anParticipantAh, OK. Thanks for explaining. That makes more sense now. So does that mean we’ll gap down tomorrow, or drift down? If we gap down, is there still a possibility to drift up to positive territory by day close?
January 21, 2008 at 9:31 PM #140596anParticipantAh, OK. Thanks for explaining. That makes more sense now. So does that mean we’ll gap down tomorrow, or drift down? If we gap down, is there still a possibility to drift up to positive territory by day close?
January 21, 2008 at 9:31 PM #140646anParticipantAh, OK. Thanks for explaining. That makes more sense now. So does that mean we’ll gap down tomorrow, or drift down? If we gap down, is there still a possibility to drift up to positive territory by day close?
January 21, 2008 at 9:45 PM #140349daveljParticipantAbsent any new “news” – like news of a preemptive rate cut – the market will likely gap down to reflect the futures trading. Two things to remember: (1) Every hedge fund of any importance trades in the global markets, so most U.S. hedge funds are already trading the Dow futures in the foreign markets that are open right now; the current Dow futures price already reflects what the marginal U.S. stock trader thinks is going to happen tomorrow; (2) There’s arbitrage at work here. If the Dow futures are trading at “X-5” and the actual Dow Index is trading at “X” the arbs are going to sell the actual Dow Index (with the higher value) and buy the Dow index futures (with the lower value) to capture a risk-free profit. But the market participants already know traders will try to do this at the opening and the current price reflects that – there won’t be a free lunch for anyone. Therefore, absent any new news, the market will likely gap down. Where it closes, who knows?
January 21, 2008 at 9:45 PM #140563daveljParticipantAbsent any new “news” – like news of a preemptive rate cut – the market will likely gap down to reflect the futures trading. Two things to remember: (1) Every hedge fund of any importance trades in the global markets, so most U.S. hedge funds are already trading the Dow futures in the foreign markets that are open right now; the current Dow futures price already reflects what the marginal U.S. stock trader thinks is going to happen tomorrow; (2) There’s arbitrage at work here. If the Dow futures are trading at “X-5” and the actual Dow Index is trading at “X” the arbs are going to sell the actual Dow Index (with the higher value) and buy the Dow index futures (with the lower value) to capture a risk-free profit. But the market participants already know traders will try to do this at the opening and the current price reflects that – there won’t be a free lunch for anyone. Therefore, absent any new news, the market will likely gap down. Where it closes, who knows?
January 21, 2008 at 9:45 PM #140585daveljParticipantAbsent any new “news” – like news of a preemptive rate cut – the market will likely gap down to reflect the futures trading. Two things to remember: (1) Every hedge fund of any importance trades in the global markets, so most U.S. hedge funds are already trading the Dow futures in the foreign markets that are open right now; the current Dow futures price already reflects what the marginal U.S. stock trader thinks is going to happen tomorrow; (2) There’s arbitrage at work here. If the Dow futures are trading at “X-5” and the actual Dow Index is trading at “X” the arbs are going to sell the actual Dow Index (with the higher value) and buy the Dow index futures (with the lower value) to capture a risk-free profit. But the market participants already know traders will try to do this at the opening and the current price reflects that – there won’t be a free lunch for anyone. Therefore, absent any new news, the market will likely gap down. Where it closes, who knows?
January 21, 2008 at 9:45 PM #140608daveljParticipantAbsent any new “news” – like news of a preemptive rate cut – the market will likely gap down to reflect the futures trading. Two things to remember: (1) Every hedge fund of any importance trades in the global markets, so most U.S. hedge funds are already trading the Dow futures in the foreign markets that are open right now; the current Dow futures price already reflects what the marginal U.S. stock trader thinks is going to happen tomorrow; (2) There’s arbitrage at work here. If the Dow futures are trading at “X-5” and the actual Dow Index is trading at “X” the arbs are going to sell the actual Dow Index (with the higher value) and buy the Dow index futures (with the lower value) to capture a risk-free profit. But the market participants already know traders will try to do this at the opening and the current price reflects that – there won’t be a free lunch for anyone. Therefore, absent any new news, the market will likely gap down. Where it closes, who knows?
January 21, 2008 at 9:45 PM #140660daveljParticipantAbsent any new “news” – like news of a preemptive rate cut – the market will likely gap down to reflect the futures trading. Two things to remember: (1) Every hedge fund of any importance trades in the global markets, so most U.S. hedge funds are already trading the Dow futures in the foreign markets that are open right now; the current Dow futures price already reflects what the marginal U.S. stock trader thinks is going to happen tomorrow; (2) There’s arbitrage at work here. If the Dow futures are trading at “X-5” and the actual Dow Index is trading at “X” the arbs are going to sell the actual Dow Index (with the higher value) and buy the Dow index futures (with the lower value) to capture a risk-free profit. But the market participants already know traders will try to do this at the opening and the current price reflects that – there won’t be a free lunch for anyone. Therefore, absent any new news, the market will likely gap down. Where it closes, who knows?
January 21, 2008 at 10:05 PM #140361anParticipantvery interesting info davelj. Thanks for the write up. We’ll just have to wait and see if there is any news or not. There’s supposed to be several earning report tomorrow too. If they all turn out better than expected, the market will fill in the gap. We’ll just have to wait and see I guess.
January 21, 2008 at 10:05 PM #140578anParticipantvery interesting info davelj. Thanks for the write up. We’ll just have to wait and see if there is any news or not. There’s supposed to be several earning report tomorrow too. If they all turn out better than expected, the market will fill in the gap. We’ll just have to wait and see I guess.
January 21, 2008 at 10:05 PM #140601anParticipantvery interesting info davelj. Thanks for the write up. We’ll just have to wait and see if there is any news or not. There’s supposed to be several earning report tomorrow too. If they all turn out better than expected, the market will fill in the gap. We’ll just have to wait and see I guess.
January 21, 2008 at 10:05 PM #140623anParticipantvery interesting info davelj. Thanks for the write up. We’ll just have to wait and see if there is any news or not. There’s supposed to be several earning report tomorrow too. If they all turn out better than expected, the market will fill in the gap. We’ll just have to wait and see I guess.
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