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September 12, 2013 at 12:42 PM #765419September 12, 2013 at 1:32 PM #765423
FlyerInHi
GuestI think that within 10 years, every car will be connected.
I’m happy there is a Tesla. It’s increasing the cool factor of electric cars and electronics infused cars. Not everyone can afford a tesla but the car is creating a shift in the auto market.
Electric cars used to be the domain of treehuggers, but now, they’ve become aspirational purchases. It’s cooler now to drive a Prius than it is to drive a Ford Expedition.
I’m not much of a car guy though i’ve driven mostly stick shifts. I personally wouldn’t mind a self driving car. High tech is cool.
September 12, 2013 at 1:37 PM #765424Guest[quote=earlyretirement]FlyerinHI,
As promised, here is a photo of the set up and the meters side by side.
[/quote]Looks pretty simple. A split from the main feed so you have a separate meter for the car.
September 12, 2013 at 1:55 PM #765427earlyretirement
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]I think that within 10 years, every car will be connected.
I’m happy there is a Tesla. It’s increasing the cool factor of electric cars and electronics infused cars. Not everyone can afford a tesla but the car is creating a shift in the auto market.
Electric cars used to be the domain of treehuggers, but now, they’ve become aspirational purchases. It’s cooler now to drive a Prius than it is to drive a Ford Expedition.
I’m not much of a car guy though i’ve driven mostly stick shifts. I personally wouldn’t mind a self driving car. High tech is cool.[/quote]
Oh yeah. I agree about the cool factor. I would have NEVER considered an EV before. Quite honestly, I think the Prius and Leaf and Volt are God awful ugly. The cool thing to me about the Tesla is the performance and also that it’s an EV and great for the environment. But quite honestly, I didn’t buy it just for the green aspect of it. I know many others in the same boat.
But the car is a “game changer” for EV’s and cars in general I believe.
Yes, the separate meter is NOT complicated at all. That was the most frustrating thing about the process with SDGE. It shouldn’t have been that complicated or taken so long.
It’s more of the red tape and permit process and inspection process hassles but SDGE has assured me that they will address this to make it easier for future people that get them done.
September 12, 2013 at 2:00 PM #765429spdrun
ParticipantI think that within 10 years, every car will be connected.
But given the rollout of IPv6 being complete in 10 years, there’s no reason why the car can’t connect directly to the owner’s devices without going through the manufacturer’s servers (other than to mediate the initial connection).
A peer-to-peer paradigm gives me a lot more of a warm, fuzzy, feeling than all data passing through TSLA’s cloud servers. Not because I’m doing anything wrong, but as a matter of principle.
Hands off my data. Hands off my life.
earlyretirement — awesome story about the seat latch. This seems like something Rolls Royce would have done in 1905 — glad that some companies still care about personal service to that extent!
September 12, 2013 at 2:25 PM #765431GuestI agree spdrun
But consider that direct connection is beyond the capability of 95% of consumer. They want ease of use and support from the vendor.
I recently bought a router on amazon and read the reviews. Most people don’t know how to setup a router. They don’t know what tcp ip is. They just go though the wizard.
Like my wireless printer. I setup a static ip to print directly to it. I have a friend who thinks he’s computer literate, but can even setup his printer. Has to use the setup disk then cusses that the product sucks.
Imagine connecting directly to a car. Ha!
Also there has to be a revenue stream for that vendor to pay for support.
That’s where the monthly subscription fees come in.I just setup a zwave network to automate my home. Nexia has monthly service fee service for that. Time warner and cox are in the business also. But you use their servers and pay a monthly fee.
September 12, 2013 at 3:02 PM #765432ParticipantCurrently, with ipv4. With ipv6 and everything having its own public address, the server is only needed to mediate the connection, and everything else would be transparent to the end-users. The company can still charge for the connection mediation service (think Hamachi VPN’s or even dyndns.com’s model).
If I ever got a cloud-connected car, I’d take a fucking axe to the antenna before I drove it.
September 12, 2013 at 3:16 PM #765433Participant[quote=spdrun]
earlyretirement — awesome story about the seat latch. This seems like something Rolls Royce would have done in 1905 — glad that some companies still care about personal service to that extent![/quote]Yeah spdrun! It was really cool. I think eventually this will definitely need to be a recall and they need to fix it. Quite honestly, for them saying “this is the safest place in the entire car” I was shocked when the first day I got it my kids were in the back. I was slowly reversing out of my driveway when I see them fall back.
They made a huge oversight and put the button to fold them flat right in the middle in between the seats. It releases WAY too easily. My kids are young and if you just accidentally move your hand on it the seat falls back.
They should have made this so it can’t engage while the car is moving or the keys are in the car. There isn’t ANY earthly reason why anyone would need to fold these flat once the car is moving. So it was an oversight.
Or at the very worst, they should have put the button to fold them flat hidden at the side or something. So I’m 100% sure this is something they will need to fix for future models.
But it was totally cool that right after I emailed the Senior VP about it, he had his engineers working on a solution and constant email contact with me to let me know that they were willing to put their engineers fix (albeit a prototype) in my car.
But the kids LOVE riding back there in the back. It’s the coolest thing ever to them to ride back in the “cave” as they call it. You should see them at school when I’m dropping them off in the morning or picking them up at the end of the days. They are like rock stars! Amazing that even at such a young age of a few years old, Kindergarten and 1st and 2nd graders already are saying things like, “Mommy cool look at that Tesla”. It blew my mind that young kids that young already knew the brand name.
For a company that doesn’t do any formal marketing except having stores at shopping malls….I thought that was pretty darn good.
But on the other end of the spectrum there are some parents that have NO idea what the car is and saw my kids coming out of the trunk (rear seats) and looked horrified. LOL.
September 12, 2013 at 4:11 PM #765436flyer
ParticipantGreat thread, and very interesting.
We’ve noticed the Tesla’s are also very popular among the film biz people. Since we invest in many projects, and my wife works in the industry, we’re on set often, and have noticed many key players driving them.
As others have mentioned, it should be interesting to see how things develop in the future.
September 12, 2013 at 4:56 PM #765439Participant[quote=flyer]Great thread, and very interesting.
We’ve noticed the Tesla’s are also very popular among the film biz people. Since we invest in many projects, and my wife works in the industry, we’re on set often, and have noticed many key players driving them.
As others have mentioned, it should be interesting to see how things develop in the future.[/quote]
Hey flyer! Thanks.
Yeah, they are popular in Hollywood. Also, in the Bay area amongst high tech executives they are VERY popular. About 7 of my friends in the Bay area have just recently taken possession of one here or will in the next few weeks. And I’m sure several more will be ordering in the next few weeks.
It’s totally cool to see something so amazing made right here in the good ole USA and in California no less. This is why I tell people that say silly things like “The USA’s best days are behind it” are totally WRONG.
Our BEST days are ahead of us. This kind of technology makes me really proud to be American and totally excited to see what else comes in the future. When I think of what kind of cars some of us with young kids will be driving it boggles my mind.
Probably by then they will have self driving cars all on electricity that go 800 miles a charge. Exciting, exciting stuff!
September 12, 2013 at 4:58 PM #765440ParticipantAnd a bunch of overweight Americans breaking the seats of those cars, since they can now commute 150+ miles every day without guilt and while surfing their favorite pr0n sites. 🙂
I like cities and small towns and hope that self-driving cars won’t be the death of density in development.
September 12, 2013 at 5:16 PM #765441ParticipantHere is the Iphone App and how it works. REALLY cool. It’s cool how everything is real time and exactly correct. Interior temperature inside and out, speed, exact location.
September 12, 2013 at 5:36 PM #765444an
ParticipantThese features have been on your smart phone for a long time now. It’s kinda sad that it takes a car startup from the Silicon Valley to bring these features to the car. Maybe this will force car makers to step it up on the technology front.
September 12, 2013 at 5:49 PM #765445ParticipantAm I the only one who doesn’t care about the location and speed of my car (at least not enough to have it be uploaded to the “cloud” all the time) nor the indoor and outdoor temps? Setting the climate control 15 minutes before I drove off, being able to close the windows and roof if I forgot, and seeing how far charged the car is would be nice, but that’s about it.
September 12, 2013 at 6:38 PM #765446Participant[quote=spdrun]Am I the only one who doesn’t care about the location and speed of my car (at least not enough to have it be uploaded to the “cloud” all the time) nor the indoor and outdoor temps? Setting the climate control 15 minutes before I drove off, being able to close the windows and roof if I forgot, and seeing how far charged the car is would be nice, but that’s about it.[/quote]
Well, I don’t think that people find them essential but just cool. Tesla owners are a pretty interesting group. I joined the SD Tesla Club and met some SUPER interesting people.
I had a coffee the other day with a fellow member and the coffee turned into a 3.5 hour chat. SUPER interesting guy. The guy was working with Steve Jobs when he was at NEXT. And through it’s a small world he was the founder of a company that one of my clients here locally works at. Just a small world.
I just think that many Tesla owners have a clue just how much lack of privacy is out there with NSA and other things. So it’s not too big of a deal to have this.
I think this is just the cusp of what is coming. I read an article today that talked about the potential of battery technology to get MUCH better and VC funds are investing in that technology now.
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