Morgan Hill and Morgan Valley Stats

[TemekuT]

Hey Bearvine, leave me a shred of hope that Morgan Hill is a decent place to live!

So you were in K. Hov land – we actually passed on the single level house at the corner of Arietta and Milat, the one that is perpendicular to the first Ventana home. The home had fallen out of escrow and the sales office offered it to us for $604,900. Hubby wanted it but I saw where prices were headed and convinced him to pass. Too bad I couldn’t get him to pass on the one we did buy in McMillin land.

I remember one thing that concerned me about the Ventana homes were the rumors about Butterfield and/or Anza morphing into a passage to the 15. Have you been able to verify this, or is it just a possibility? And yes, it was also rumored that the orchard would be developed into small parcel housing, but I figure the housing crash will stop that for years.

I never thought there were views in Morgan Hill. The master map did show where the clubhouse would be. I don’t consider looking at ravines or an endless sea of tract homes to be a view, but others do. It’s funny what people will pay extra for.

Now Irvine, that’s another story. I wouldn’t want to live there…grew up in O.C. and spent time there. Temecula reminds me (or at least used to remind me) of the less dense feeling in the South County of my teen years. It’s funny, I lived in the Bay Area in a downtown environment for a decade, until recently, and I had a difficult time adjusting to Temecula but now I love it here, which I’m sure is helped by getting out frequently on vacation to the Bay Area and other exciting places.

[temeculaguy]

great post bear, I was hoping you would come in and pinch hit!! My theory on acreage is similar to my theory on boats, have friends with them, be a good guest and avoid all the work. So when people ask about de luz or la cresta, etc., since my only exposure is drinking at a party, all I can say is “nice houses” that’s about it.

Bear is right, the road plans are real but they hem and haw over the specifics and haven’t really done much lately. The east end of deer hollow is going to be an engineering feat when they try to connect it, I’ve stood at the dead end of that 4 laner and it just drops into oblivian a few hundred feet. They wont be able to grade and pave, sometimes I wonder if they made a mistake and gave up. All the money they are putting into the 79 interchange and pechanga parkway, I wonder if they are really going to put in the butterfield bypass for a decade or two, the pechaga parkway expansion finally started and with the construction slowdown the bids were all well below what they budgeted so maybe we will see some movement on the anza rd plans now that it is cheaper.

Bear, your predictions are an track for the specific price points in specific neighborhoods.

Temeku, don’t lose too much sleep, Morgan will always be a nice place to live. I’ve seen the plans for the eastern bypass that was supposed to run from the 15 to Pechanga and up through Morgan on Butterfield and then Butterfield could take you all the way to winchester road, bypassing temecula entirely, so someone going to hemet or the wine country would never enter the city. The snag to that is the financial interests and sales taxes, allowing tourists to bypass the gas, retail and food on 79s and rancho cal isn’t in the city’s best interest and the chamber and others will be quietly against it. It makes sense but planners get nudges and sections don’t get finished in municipalities somehow when they will hurt revenue. It may go through but it wont be the path of least resistance so you wont end up living next to the autobahn. Ever notice how the only viable ways to travel North/South (Ynez or Margarita), both somehow twist and turn so you end up driving right by the Mall. That stuff is on purpose.

[temeculaguy]

great post bear, I was hoping you would come in and pinch hit!! My theory on acreage is similar to my theory on boats, have friends with them, be a good guest and avoid all the work. So when people ask about de luz or la cresta, etc., since my only exposure is drinking at a party, all I can say is “nice houses” that’s about it.

Bear is right, the road plans are real but they hem and haw over the specifics and haven’t really done much lately. The east end of deer hollow is going to be an engineering feat when they try to connect it, I’ve stood at the dead end of that 4 laner and it just drops into oblivian a few hundred feet. They wont be able to grade and pave, sometimes I wonder if they made a mistake and gave up. All the money they are putting into the 79 interchange and pechanga parkway, I wonder if they are really going to put in the butterfield bypass for a decade or two, the pechaga parkway expansion finally started and with the construction slowdown the bids were all well below what they budgeted so maybe we will see some movement on the anza rd plans now that it is cheaper.

Bear, your predictions are an track for the specific price points in specific neighborhoods.

Temeku, don’t lose too much sleep, Morgan will always be a nice place to live. I’ve seen the plans for the eastern bypass that was supposed to run from the 15 to Pechanga and up through Morgan on Butterfield and then Butterfield could take you all the way to winchester road, bypassing temecula entirely, so someone going to hemet or the wine country would never enter the city. The snag to that is the financial interests and sales taxes, allowing tourists to bypass the gas, retail and food on 79s and rancho cal isn’t in the city’s best interest and the chamber and others will be quietly against it. It makes sense but planners get nudges and sections don’t get finished in municipalities somehow when they will hurt revenue. It may go through but it wont be the path of least resistance so you wont end up living next to the autobahn. Ever notice how the only viable ways to travel North/South (Ynez or Margarita), both somehow twist and turn so you end up driving right by the Mall. That stuff is on purpose.

[temeculaguy]

great post bear, I was hoping you would come in and pinch hit!! My theory on acreage is similar to my theory on boats, have friends with them, be a good guest and avoid all the work. So when people ask about de luz or la cresta, etc., since my only exposure is drinking at a party, all I can say is “nice houses” that’s about it.

Bear is right, the road plans are real but they hem and haw over the specifics and haven’t really done much lately. The east end of deer hollow is going to be an engineering feat when they try to connect it, I’ve stood at the dead end of that 4 laner and it just drops into oblivian a few hundred feet. They wont be able to grade and pave, sometimes I wonder if they made a mistake and gave up. All the money they are putting into the 79 interchange and pechanga parkway, I wonder if they are really going to put in the butterfield bypass for a decade or two, the pechaga parkway expansion finally started and with the construction slowdown the bids were all well below what they budgeted so maybe we will see some movement on the anza rd plans now that it is cheaper.

Bear, your predictions are an track for the specific price points in specific neighborhoods.

Temeku, don’t lose too much sleep, Morgan will always be a nice place to live. I’ve seen the plans for the eastern bypass that was supposed to run from the 15 to Pechanga and up through Morgan on Butterfield and then Butterfield could take you all the way to winchester road, bypassing temecula entirely, so someone going to hemet or the wine country would never enter the city. The snag to that is the financial interests and sales taxes, allowing tourists to bypass the gas, retail and food on 79s and rancho cal isn’t in the city’s best interest and the chamber and others will be quietly against it. It makes sense but planners get nudges and sections don’t get finished in municipalities somehow when they will hurt revenue. It may go through but it wont be the path of least resistance so you wont end up living next to the autobahn. Ever notice how the only viable ways to travel North/South (Ynez or Margarita), both somehow twist and turn so you end up driving right by the Mall. That stuff is on purpose.

[temeculaguy]

great post bear, I was hoping you would come in and pinch hit!! My theory on acreage is similar to my theory on boats, have friends with them, be a good guest and avoid all the work. So when people ask about de luz or la cresta, etc., since my only exposure is drinking at a party, all I can say is “nice houses” that’s about it.

Bear is right, the road plans are real but they hem and haw over the specifics and haven’t really done much lately. The east end of deer hollow is going to be an engineering feat when they try to connect it, I’ve stood at the dead end of that 4 laner and it just drops into oblivian a few hundred feet. They wont be able to grade and pave, sometimes I wonder if they made a mistake and gave up. All the money they are putting into the 79 interchange and pechanga parkway, I wonder if they are really going to put in the butterfield bypass for a decade or two, the pechaga parkway expansion finally started and with the construction slowdown the bids were all well below what they budgeted so maybe we will see some movement on the anza rd plans now that it is cheaper.

Bear, your predictions are an track for the specific price points in specific neighborhoods.

Temeku, don’t lose too much sleep, Morgan will always be a nice place to live. I’ve seen the plans for the eastern bypass that was supposed to run from the 15 to Pechanga and up through Morgan on Butterfield and then Butterfield could take you all the way to winchester road, bypassing temecula entirely, so someone going to hemet or the wine country would never enter the city. The snag to that is the financial interests and sales taxes, allowing tourists to bypass the gas, retail and food on 79s and rancho cal isn’t in the city’s best interest and the chamber and others will be quietly against it. It makes sense but planners get nudges and sections don’t get finished in municipalities somehow when they will hurt revenue. It may go through but it wont be the path of least resistance so you wont end up living next to the autobahn. Ever notice how the only viable ways to travel North/South (Ynez or Margarita), both somehow twist and turn so you end up driving right by the Mall. That stuff is on purpose.

[temeculaguy]

great post bear, I was hoping you would come in and pinch hit!! My theory on acreage is similar to my theory on boats, have friends with them, be a good guest and avoid all the work. So when people ask about de luz or la cresta, etc., since my only exposure is drinking at a party, all I can say is “nice houses” that’s about it.

Bear is right, the road plans are real but they hem and haw over the specifics and haven’t really done much lately. The east end of deer hollow is going to be an engineering feat when they try to connect it, I’ve stood at the dead end of that 4 laner and it just drops into oblivian a few hundred feet. They wont be able to grade and pave, sometimes I wonder if they made a mistake and gave up. All the money they are putting into the 79 interchange and pechanga parkway, I wonder if they are really going to put in the butterfield bypass for a decade or two, the pechaga parkway expansion finally started and with the construction slowdown the bids were all well below what they budgeted so maybe we will see some movement on the anza rd plans now that it is cheaper.

Bear, your predictions are an track for the specific price points in specific neighborhoods.

Temeku, don’t lose too much sleep, Morgan will always be a nice place to live. I’ve seen the plans for the eastern bypass that was supposed to run from the 15 to Pechanga and up through Morgan on Butterfield and then Butterfield could take you all the way to winchester road, bypassing temecula entirely, so someone going to hemet or the wine country would never enter the city. The snag to that is the financial interests and sales taxes, allowing tourists to bypass the gas, retail and food on 79s and rancho cal isn’t in the city’s best interest and the chamber and others will be quietly against it. It makes sense but planners get nudges and sections don’t get finished in municipalities somehow when they will hurt revenue. It may go through but it wont be the path of least resistance so you wont end up living next to the autobahn. Ever notice how the only viable ways to travel North/South (Ynez or Margarita), both somehow twist and turn so you end up driving right by the Mall. That stuff is on purpose.

[bearvine]

Wherever one chooses to live, it’s human nature to make the best of it (and the only thing to do) and to have pride in their “hood.” And of course, different strokes for different folks.

I’ve posted many times my fondness for Morgan Hill, which explains our owning multiple homes in the area, our watching the area, and eventual plan to possibly buy again there.

May not live there full time, but a nice investment, part time residence- a place to hang out when I have the golf/wine/gambling itch. Much easier to care for then one of the aforementioned higher end areas, and there are some nice floor plans.

No matter how bad the crash, I think Morgan Hill will remain nice for the most part, and it’s my opinion that it’s remoteness will have something to do with that. How Temecula Pkwy was developed was a great disappointment IMO, as it had significant potential, but it’s my belief that much of the planned development in the area was shortsighted and only with the quick buck in mind. This was both local and out of area developers at fault.

TG is right about the road dev, it will take awhile for reasons he stated and more. Until more people die on the 15 as they sit bumper to bumper in the right lane trying to get off an exit while cars fly by at 90 will the outcry become louder for alternative routes. Pechanga and Wine Country expansion to the point more cars will be en route will be at least another 5 yrs before it’s more of an issue.

Temecula can be a great place to live, and Morgan Hill is certainly one of the nicer tracts.

I will say TemekuT, when you do go out to eat, make sure you visit the locally owned establishments and shy away from the corporate restaurants. They need your help, there are a few thriving, but many are hurting really bad right now and need the extra business. A lot of good people out there.

As far as Irvine goes however, I am very happy to be here thanks. It may be a big bubble, some may not care about the US safest city ranking, schools may be too competitive, it is highly corporate, etc etc, but nowhere is perfect, and having been in the Bay Area as well, NY, FL, OH, all over SoCal, for me this is by far the best place we’ve been.

[bearvine]

Wherever one chooses to live, it’s human nature to make the best of it (and the only thing to do) and to have pride in their “hood.” And of course, different strokes for different folks.

I’ve posted many times my fondness for Morgan Hill, which explains our owning multiple homes in the area, our watching the area, and eventual plan to possibly buy again there.

May not live there full time, but a nice investment, part time residence- a place to hang out when I have the golf/wine/gambling itch. Much easier to care for then one of the aforementioned higher end areas, and there are some nice floor plans.

No matter how bad the crash, I think Morgan Hill will remain nice for the most part, and it’s my opinion that it’s remoteness will have something to do with that. How Temecula Pkwy was developed was a great disappointment IMO, as it had significant potential, but it’s my belief that much of the planned development in the area was shortsighted and only with the quick buck in mind. This was both local and out of area developers at fault.

TG is right about the road dev, it will take awhile for reasons he stated and more. Until more people die on the 15 as they sit bumper to bumper in the right lane trying to get off an exit while cars fly by at 90 will the outcry become louder for alternative routes. Pechanga and Wine Country expansion to the point more cars will be en route will be at least another 5 yrs before it’s more of an issue.

Temecula can be a great place to live, and Morgan Hill is certainly one of the nicer tracts.

I will say TemekuT, when you do go out to eat, make sure you visit the locally owned establishments and shy away from the corporate restaurants. They need your help, there are a few thriving, but many are hurting really bad right now and need the extra business. A lot of good people out there.

As far as Irvine goes however, I am very happy to be here thanks. It may be a big bubble, some may not care about the US safest city ranking, schools may be too competitive, it is highly corporate, etc etc, but nowhere is perfect, and having been in the Bay Area as well, NY, FL, OH, all over SoCal, for me this is by far the best place we’ve been.

[bearvine]

Wherever one chooses to live, it’s human nature to make the best of it (and the only thing to do) and to have pride in their “hood.” And of course, different strokes for different folks.

I’ve posted many times my fondness for Morgan Hill, which explains our owning multiple homes in the area, our watching the area, and eventual plan to possibly buy again there.

May not live there full time, but a nice investment, part time residence- a place to hang out when I have the golf/wine/gambling itch. Much easier to care for then one of the aforementioned higher end areas, and there are some nice floor plans.

No matter how bad the crash, I think Morgan Hill will remain nice for the most part, and it’s my opinion that it’s remoteness will have something to do with that. How Temecula Pkwy was developed was a great disappointment IMO, as it had significant potential, but it’s my belief that much of the planned development in the area was shortsighted and only with the quick buck in mind. This was both local and out of area developers at fault.

TG is right about the road dev, it will take awhile for reasons he stated and more. Until more people die on the 15 as they sit bumper to bumper in the right lane trying to get off an exit while cars fly by at 90 will the outcry become louder for alternative routes. Pechanga and Wine Country expansion to the point more cars will be en route will be at least another 5 yrs before it’s more of an issue.

Temecula can be a great place to live, and Morgan Hill is certainly one of the nicer tracts.

I will say TemekuT, when you do go out to eat, make sure you visit the locally owned establishments and shy away from the corporate restaurants. They need your help, there are a few thriving, but many are hurting really bad right now and need the extra business. A lot of good people out there.

As far as Irvine goes however, I am very happy to be here thanks. It may be a big bubble, some may not care about the US safest city ranking, schools may be too competitive, it is highly corporate, etc etc, but nowhere is perfect, and having been in the Bay Area as well, NY, FL, OH, all over SoCal, for me this is by far the best place we’ve been.

[bearvine]

Wherever one chooses to live, it’s human nature to make the best of it (and the only thing to do) and to have pride in their “hood.” And of course, different strokes for different folks.

I’ve posted many times my fondness for Morgan Hill, which explains our owning multiple homes in the area, our watching the area, and eventual plan to possibly buy again there.

May not live there full time, but a nice investment, part time residence- a place to hang out when I have the golf/wine/gambling itch. Much easier to care for then one of the aforementioned higher end areas, and there are some nice floor plans.

No matter how bad the crash, I think Morgan Hill will remain nice for the most part, and it’s my opinion that it’s remoteness will have something to do with that. How Temecula Pkwy was developed was a great disappointment IMO, as it had significant potential, but it’s my belief that much of the planned development in the area was shortsighted and only with the quick buck in mind. This was both local and out of area developers at fault.

TG is right about the road dev, it will take awhile for reasons he stated and more. Until more people die on the 15 as they sit bumper to bumper in the right lane trying to get off an exit while cars fly by at 90 will the outcry become louder for alternative routes. Pechanga and Wine Country expansion to the point more cars will be en route will be at least another 5 yrs before it’s more of an issue.

Temecula can be a great place to live, and Morgan Hill is certainly one of the nicer tracts.

I will say TemekuT, when you do go out to eat, make sure you visit the locally owned establishments and shy away from the corporate restaurants. They need your help, there are a few thriving, but many are hurting really bad right now and need the extra business. A lot of good people out there.

As far as Irvine goes however, I am very happy to be here thanks. It may be a big bubble, some may not care about the US safest city ranking, schools may be too competitive, it is highly corporate, etc etc, but nowhere is perfect, and having been in the Bay Area as well, NY, FL, OH, all over SoCal, for me this is by far the best place we’ve been.

[bearvine]

Wherever one chooses to live, it’s human nature to make the best of it (and the only thing to do) and to have pride in their “hood.” And of course, different strokes for different folks.

I’ve posted many times my fondness for Morgan Hill, which explains our owning multiple homes in the area, our watching the area, and eventual plan to possibly buy again there.

May not live there full time, but a nice investment, part time residence- a place to hang out when I have the golf/wine/gambling itch. Much easier to care for then one of the aforementioned higher end areas, and there are some nice floor plans.

No matter how bad the crash, I think Morgan Hill will remain nice for the most part, and it’s my opinion that it’s remoteness will have something to do with that. How Temecula Pkwy was developed was a great disappointment IMO, as it had significant potential, but it’s my belief that much of the planned development in the area was shortsighted and only with the quick buck in mind. This was both local and out of area developers at fault.

TG is right about the road dev, it will take awhile for reasons he stated and more. Until more people die on the 15 as they sit bumper to bumper in the right lane trying to get off an exit while cars fly by at 90 will the outcry become louder for alternative routes. Pechanga and Wine Country expansion to the point more cars will be en route will be at least another 5 yrs before it’s more of an issue.

Temecula can be a great place to live, and Morgan Hill is certainly one of the nicer tracts.

I will say TemekuT, when you do go out to eat, make sure you visit the locally owned establishments and shy away from the corporate restaurants. They need your help, there are a few thriving, but many are hurting really bad right now and need the extra business. A lot of good people out there.

As far as Irvine goes however, I am very happy to be here thanks. It may be a big bubble, some may not care about the US safest city ranking, schools may be too competitive, it is highly corporate, etc etc, but nowhere is perfect, and having been in the Bay Area as well, NY, FL, OH, all over SoCal, for me this is by far the best place we’ve been.

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