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June 16, 2008 at 1:18 PM #223469June 16, 2008 at 1:36 PM #223313
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ParticipantWait wait, where did I say what I believe? Where did I go into anything other than the source at hand, address a point that was not used in the source and has no factual evidence to support it that was being levied to to damage the reputation of a leading canadate for prez? Please use the fancy new quoteing tool to show me where I wrote what I believe.
What is the likelyhood that he divorced his wife, met, wooed, and married a beautiful and rich woman in that order in one month? About the same as me being elected prez, near nil. However, I have trouble judgeing a man based on something I suspect, but have no proof of. Especially when lit in the context of this article, which is a smear piece if ever one was written.
In politics I try to stay with what I know. Not what I suspect about someones behavior. I doubt VERY much he could look anyone in the eye and say that he has always been faithful in every second of his life without lying. Infact, id prob laugh in this face, and ask “really! damn teach me your secret! Cause no one I have ever heard of pulls that off!” That doesnt mean ill resort to slander and damage someones reputation based on nothing more than the cold hard analysis of something I know nothing about and wasnt alive to witness.
There are plenty of skeletons in McCains closet that I can form an opnion with that dont leave me resorting to “comeon, you know he did it even if we dont have any proof.”
June 16, 2008 at 1:36 PM #223419ParticipantWait wait, where did I say what I believe? Where did I go into anything other than the source at hand, address a point that was not used in the source and has no factual evidence to support it that was being levied to to damage the reputation of a leading canadate for prez? Please use the fancy new quoteing tool to show me where I wrote what I believe.
What is the likelyhood that he divorced his wife, met, wooed, and married a beautiful and rich woman in that order in one month? About the same as me being elected prez, near nil. However, I have trouble judgeing a man based on something I suspect, but have no proof of. Especially when lit in the context of this article, which is a smear piece if ever one was written.
In politics I try to stay with what I know. Not what I suspect about someones behavior. I doubt VERY much he could look anyone in the eye and say that he has always been faithful in every second of his life without lying. Infact, id prob laugh in this face, and ask “really! damn teach me your secret! Cause no one I have ever heard of pulls that off!” That doesnt mean ill resort to slander and damage someones reputation based on nothing more than the cold hard analysis of something I know nothing about and wasnt alive to witness.
There are plenty of skeletons in McCains closet that I can form an opnion with that dont leave me resorting to “comeon, you know he did it even if we dont have any proof.”
June 16, 2008 at 1:36 PM #223434ParticipantWait wait, where did I say what I believe? Where did I go into anything other than the source at hand, address a point that was not used in the source and has no factual evidence to support it that was being levied to to damage the reputation of a leading canadate for prez? Please use the fancy new quoteing tool to show me where I wrote what I believe.
What is the likelyhood that he divorced his wife, met, wooed, and married a beautiful and rich woman in that order in one month? About the same as me being elected prez, near nil. However, I have trouble judgeing a man based on something I suspect, but have no proof of. Especially when lit in the context of this article, which is a smear piece if ever one was written.
In politics I try to stay with what I know. Not what I suspect about someones behavior. I doubt VERY much he could look anyone in the eye and say that he has always been faithful in every second of his life without lying. Infact, id prob laugh in this face, and ask “really! damn teach me your secret! Cause no one I have ever heard of pulls that off!” That doesnt mean ill resort to slander and damage someones reputation based on nothing more than the cold hard analysis of something I know nothing about and wasnt alive to witness.
There are plenty of skeletons in McCains closet that I can form an opnion with that dont leave me resorting to “comeon, you know he did it even if we dont have any proof.”
June 16, 2008 at 1:36 PM #223466ParticipantWait wait, where did I say what I believe? Where did I go into anything other than the source at hand, address a point that was not used in the source and has no factual evidence to support it that was being levied to to damage the reputation of a leading canadate for prez? Please use the fancy new quoteing tool to show me where I wrote what I believe.
What is the likelyhood that he divorced his wife, met, wooed, and married a beautiful and rich woman in that order in one month? About the same as me being elected prez, near nil. However, I have trouble judgeing a man based on something I suspect, but have no proof of. Especially when lit in the context of this article, which is a smear piece if ever one was written.
In politics I try to stay with what I know. Not what I suspect about someones behavior. I doubt VERY much he could look anyone in the eye and say that he has always been faithful in every second of his life without lying. Infact, id prob laugh in this face, and ask “really! damn teach me your secret! Cause no one I have ever heard of pulls that off!” That doesnt mean ill resort to slander and damage someones reputation based on nothing more than the cold hard analysis of something I know nothing about and wasnt alive to witness.
There are plenty of skeletons in McCains closet that I can form an opnion with that dont leave me resorting to “comeon, you know he did it even if we dont have any proof.”
June 16, 2008 at 1:36 PM #223479ParticipantWait wait, where did I say what I believe? Where did I go into anything other than the source at hand, address a point that was not used in the source and has no factual evidence to support it that was being levied to to damage the reputation of a leading canadate for prez? Please use the fancy new quoteing tool to show me where I wrote what I believe.
What is the likelyhood that he divorced his wife, met, wooed, and married a beautiful and rich woman in that order in one month? About the same as me being elected prez, near nil. However, I have trouble judgeing a man based on something I suspect, but have no proof of. Especially when lit in the context of this article, which is a smear piece if ever one was written.
In politics I try to stay with what I know. Not what I suspect about someones behavior. I doubt VERY much he could look anyone in the eye and say that he has always been faithful in every second of his life without lying. Infact, id prob laugh in this face, and ask “really! damn teach me your secret! Cause no one I have ever heard of pulls that off!” That doesnt mean ill resort to slander and damage someones reputation based on nothing more than the cold hard analysis of something I know nothing about and wasnt alive to witness.
There are plenty of skeletons in McCains closet that I can form an opnion with that dont leave me resorting to “comeon, you know he did it even if we dont have any proof.”
June 16, 2008 at 1:51 PM #223318ParticipantReally? I am saying that you shouldnt judge a man on something you have no proof he did and I am doing the same thing as you Marion cause you can find one sentence where I take the default position of innocent until proven guilty?
June 16, 2008 at 1:51 PM #223424ParticipantReally? I am saying that you shouldnt judge a man on something you have no proof he did and I am doing the same thing as you Marion cause you can find one sentence where I take the default position of innocent until proven guilty?
June 16, 2008 at 1:51 PM #223440ParticipantReally? I am saying that you shouldnt judge a man on something you have no proof he did and I am doing the same thing as you Marion cause you can find one sentence where I take the default position of innocent until proven guilty?
June 16, 2008 at 1:51 PM #223468ParticipantReally? I am saying that you shouldnt judge a man on something you have no proof he did and I am doing the same thing as you Marion cause you can find one sentence where I take the default position of innocent until proven guilty?
June 16, 2008 at 1:51 PM #223484ParticipantReally? I am saying that you shouldnt judge a man on something you have no proof he did and I am doing the same thing as you Marion cause you can find one sentence where I take the default position of innocent until proven guilty?
June 16, 2008 at 2:14 PM #223323an
Participant[quote=SDEngineer]
It is a very popular, however, almost entirely incorrect belief among conservatives that the rich work harder for what they have than the poor. This seems to be largely because conservatives like to think that our current capitalistic system is both fair and impartial, and rewards work.[/quote]
Did you even read the example I’ve made of some couple who does work 2X harder than most and are being considered as rich?I do agree that CEO these days are getting paid way more than their employee and they also get paid to fail as well. That’s not right. But the point at hand is increasing tax on those who you consider as rich (those making >$250k). I can say with certainty those who work 2x as hard as you and I deserve every $ they make just as you and I do. Try working 6 12 hours shift as a RN and tell me if that’s not hard work.
June 16, 2008 at 2:14 PM #223428Participant[quote=SDEngineer]
It is a very popular, however, almost entirely incorrect belief among conservatives that the rich work harder for what they have than the poor. This seems to be largely because conservatives like to think that our current capitalistic system is both fair and impartial, and rewards work.[/quote]
Did you even read the example I’ve made of some couple who does work 2X harder than most and are being considered as rich?I do agree that CEO these days are getting paid way more than their employee and they also get paid to fail as well. That’s not right. But the point at hand is increasing tax on those who you consider as rich (those making >$250k). I can say with certainty those who work 2x as hard as you and I deserve every $ they make just as you and I do. Try working 6 12 hours shift as a RN and tell me if that’s not hard work.
June 16, 2008 at 2:14 PM #223444Participant[quote=SDEngineer]
It is a very popular, however, almost entirely incorrect belief among conservatives that the rich work harder for what they have than the poor. This seems to be largely because conservatives like to think that our current capitalistic system is both fair and impartial, and rewards work.[/quote]
Did you even read the example I’ve made of some couple who does work 2X harder than most and are being considered as rich?I do agree that CEO these days are getting paid way more than their employee and they also get paid to fail as well. That’s not right. But the point at hand is increasing tax on those who you consider as rich (those making >$250k). I can say with certainty those who work 2x as hard as you and I deserve every $ they make just as you and I do. Try working 6 12 hours shift as a RN and tell me if that’s not hard work.
June 16, 2008 at 2:14 PM #223476Participant[quote=SDEngineer]
It is a very popular, however, almost entirely incorrect belief among conservatives that the rich work harder for what they have than the poor. This seems to be largely because conservatives like to think that our current capitalistic system is both fair and impartial, and rewards work.[/quote]
Did you even read the example I’ve made of some couple who does work 2X harder than most and are being considered as rich?I do agree that CEO these days are getting paid way more than their employee and they also get paid to fail as well. That’s not right. But the point at hand is increasing tax on those who you consider as rich (those making >$250k). I can say with certainty those who work 2x as hard as you and I deserve every $ they make just as you and I do. Try working 6 12 hours shift as a RN and tell me if that’s not hard work.
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