OT:Looming Disaster for the Temecula Area: Liberty Quarry/Mega Mine

[bearishgurl]

[quote=jstoesz]not to poke the bear(ishgurl) too much, but don’t you think you would be happier in N. California? All you outings seem to be up here.[/quote]

jstoesz, only my “in-state outings” are in NoCal. My summer road trips are often in triple-digit heat in southwest states. However, this year I spent a week of my road trip touring the Colo rockies where “boomers,” mostly couples, are out en masse (many on motorcycles) in search of summer homes and retirement properties at (hopefully) the best prices they’ll ever see again in their lifetimes. Some were headed to NV, AZ and FL to view/purchase rental-property investments to fund their retirements. I met and spoke to them from Boulder/Nederland to Estes Park to Aspen to Beaver Creek to Telluride and many points in between.

The snow is still melting into hundreds of waterfalls causing the rivers to bulge and spread!!!

I saw many WOMEN OVER AGE 55 there in awesome shape mountain biking 40-100 mi per day consistently on 6-9% grade in over 10K feet in altitude! Of course there are rest stops for bikers, some with caves for shade :=)

I’m originally from NoCal and several cities/towns there are on my “short list” for retirement locales :=]

[sdrealtor]

personally I likwe the Temecula area just not their wines. FWIW those wine competitions are low level things. I mean winning at the at the Dallas Morning News competition or even the CA State Fair doesnt mean they are good wines. You just cant grow killer grapes in that kind of climate and soil try as they might. Its a great tourist thing for the area and a good way for people around here to experience winery tasting rooms so they can catch the wine bug.

[sdrealtor]

personally I likwe the Temecula area just not their wines. FWIW those wine competitions are low level things. I mean winning at the at the Dallas Morning News competition or even the CA State Fair doesnt mean they are good wines. You just cant grow killer grapes in that kind of climate and soil try as they might. Its a great tourist thing for the area and a good way for people around here to experience winery tasting rooms so they can catch the wine bug.

[sdrealtor]

personally I likwe the Temecula area just not their wines. FWIW those wine competitions are low level things. I mean winning at the at the Dallas Morning News competition or even the CA State Fair doesnt mean they are good wines. You just cant grow killer grapes in that kind of climate and soil try as they might. Its a great tourist thing for the area and a good way for people around here to experience winery tasting rooms so they can catch the wine bug.

[sdrealtor]

personally I likwe the Temecula area just not their wines. FWIW those wine competitions are low level things. I mean winning at the at the Dallas Morning News competition or even the CA State Fair doesnt mean they are good wines. You just cant grow killer grapes in that kind of climate and soil try as they might. Its a great tourist thing for the area and a good way for people around here to experience winery tasting rooms so they can catch the wine bug.

[sdrealtor]

personally I likwe the Temecula area just not their wines. FWIW those wine competitions are low level things. I mean winning at the at the Dallas Morning News competition or even the CA State Fair doesnt mean they are good wines. You just cant grow killer grapes in that kind of climate and soil try as they might. Its a great tourist thing for the area and a good way for people around here to experience winery tasting rooms so they can catch the wine bug.

[scaredyclassic]

Temecula is one of the ten best places in north America to live. No citation.

[scaredyclassic]

Temecula is one of the ten best places in north America to live. No citation.

[scaredyclassic]

Temecula is one of the ten best places in north America to live. No citation.

[scaredyclassic]

Temecula is one of the ten best places in north America to live. No citation.

[scaredyclassic]

Temecula is one of the ten best places in north America to live. No citation.

[temeculaguy]

This used to be my favorite pastime, defending temecula, but I can see my services are no longer needed, you guys are doing just fine. And the next time sdrealtor comes this way, I’m dragging him to doffo winery and after he realizes he was only drinking at the large touristy wineries, he is man enough to admit it and I will make him write about on the boards. But it is true, Sonoma and Napa weren’t much to write home about 40 years ago, their accolades and snootiness is a recent thing in the grand scheme of things. If you choose to ignore winemaking regions outside of the chosen ones, and if those regions don’t take notice, they will be overun, it’s happened before, ask the french.

Now about dorm rooms and college rentals, I’m totally against buying a college rental. I’m just going to suck it up and pay the bill because there is something about the experience that i enjoyed and there are too many variables at play. Plus the odds are fair that they end up joining a fraternity or sorority, as their parents and grandparents all did (sorry, it’s in our DNA, we are joiners) and then they will miss out on living in the fraternity/sorority house if I bought a place. Age 18-22 is no time to be practical and sensible, there’s plenty of time for that later.

I also read one of the college’s website that we are applying to an interesting fact, now that they have a surplus of dorms due to lower enrollment and they are not just for freshman like they were in my day. Of kids that stay in the dorms for two years, they have a 90% chance of making it to their junior year, those that stay one year have a 78% chance and those that live at home or in a rental,having never lived in the dorms, only a 58% chance. It helps to make some friends and the dorms kinda put you in a situation where you almost have to. I’m an odds guy, plus it includes food, it’s just freaking money and after this there will hopefully be some gravy years where everyone is off the dole and my balance sheet. Plus, it was so much fun that if they would take my money and let me live there, I’d do it again tomorrow, even though its creepy.

[temeculaguy]

This used to be my favorite pastime, defending temecula, but I can see my services are no longer needed, you guys are doing just fine. And the next time sdrealtor comes this way, I’m dragging him to doffo winery and after he realizes he was only drinking at the large touristy wineries, he is man enough to admit it and I will make him write about on the boards. But it is true, Sonoma and Napa weren’t much to write home about 40 years ago, their accolades and snootiness is a recent thing in the grand scheme of things. If you choose to ignore winemaking regions outside of the chosen ones, and if those regions don’t take notice, they will be overun, it’s happened before, ask the french.

Now about dorm rooms and college rentals, I’m totally against buying a college rental. I’m just going to suck it up and pay the bill because there is something about the experience that i enjoyed and there are too many variables at play. Plus the odds are fair that they end up joining a fraternity or sorority, as their parents and grandparents all did (sorry, it’s in our DNA, we are joiners) and then they will miss out on living in the fraternity/sorority house if I bought a place. Age 18-22 is no time to be practical and sensible, there’s plenty of time for that later.

I also read one of the college’s website that we are applying to an interesting fact, now that they have a surplus of dorms due to lower enrollment and they are not just for freshman like they were in my day. Of kids that stay in the dorms for two years, they have a 90% chance of making it to their junior year, those that stay one year have a 78% chance and those that live at home or in a rental,having never lived in the dorms, only a 58% chance. It helps to make some friends and the dorms kinda put you in a situation where you almost have to. I’m an odds guy, plus it includes food, it’s just freaking money and after this there will hopefully be some gravy years where everyone is off the dole and my balance sheet. Plus, it was so much fun that if they would take my money and let me live there, I’d do it again tomorrow, even though its creepy.

[temeculaguy]

This used to be my favorite pastime, defending temecula, but I can see my services are no longer needed, you guys are doing just fine. And the next time sdrealtor comes this way, I’m dragging him to doffo winery and after he realizes he was only drinking at the large touristy wineries, he is man enough to admit it and I will make him write about on the boards. But it is true, Sonoma and Napa weren’t much to write home about 40 years ago, their accolades and snootiness is a recent thing in the grand scheme of things. If you choose to ignore winemaking regions outside of the chosen ones, and if those regions don’t take notice, they will be overun, it’s happened before, ask the french.

Now about dorm rooms and college rentals, I’m totally against buying a college rental. I’m just going to suck it up and pay the bill because there is something about the experience that i enjoyed and there are too many variables at play. Plus the odds are fair that they end up joining a fraternity or sorority, as their parents and grandparents all did (sorry, it’s in our DNA, we are joiners) and then they will miss out on living in the fraternity/sorority house if I bought a place. Age 18-22 is no time to be practical and sensible, there’s plenty of time for that later.

I also read one of the college’s website that we are applying to an interesting fact, now that they have a surplus of dorms due to lower enrollment and they are not just for freshman like they were in my day. Of kids that stay in the dorms for two years, they have a 90% chance of making it to their junior year, those that stay one year have a 78% chance and those that live at home or in a rental,having never lived in the dorms, only a 58% chance. It helps to make some friends and the dorms kinda put you in a situation where you almost have to. I’m an odds guy, plus it includes food, it’s just freaking money and after this there will hopefully be some gravy years where everyone is off the dole and my balance sheet. Plus, it was so much fun that if they would take my money and let me live there, I’d do it again tomorrow, even though its creepy.

[temeculaguy]

This used to be my favorite pastime, defending temecula, but I can see my services are no longer needed, you guys are doing just fine. And the next time sdrealtor comes this way, I’m dragging him to doffo winery and after he realizes he was only drinking at the large touristy wineries, he is man enough to admit it and I will make him write about on the boards. But it is true, Sonoma and Napa weren’t much to write home about 40 years ago, their accolades and snootiness is a recent thing in the grand scheme of things. If you choose to ignore winemaking regions outside of the chosen ones, and if those regions don’t take notice, they will be overun, it’s happened before, ask the french.

Now about dorm rooms and college rentals, I’m totally against buying a college rental. I’m just going to suck it up and pay the bill because there is something about the experience that i enjoyed and there are too many variables at play. Plus the odds are fair that they end up joining a fraternity or sorority, as their parents and grandparents all did (sorry, it’s in our DNA, we are joiners) and then they will miss out on living in the fraternity/sorority house if I bought a place. Age 18-22 is no time to be practical and sensible, there’s plenty of time for that later.

I also read one of the college’s website that we are applying to an interesting fact, now that they have a surplus of dorms due to lower enrollment and they are not just for freshman like they were in my day. Of kids that stay in the dorms for two years, they have a 90% chance of making it to their junior year, those that stay one year have a 78% chance and those that live at home or in a rental,having never lived in the dorms, only a 58% chance. It helps to make some friends and the dorms kinda put you in a situation where you almost have to. I’m an odds guy, plus it includes food, it’s just freaking money and after this there will hopefully be some gravy years where everyone is off the dole and my balance sheet. Plus, it was so much fun that if they would take my money and let me live there, I’d do it again tomorrow, even though its creepy.

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