OT:Looming Disaster for the Temecula Area: Liberty Quarry/Mega Mine

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[quote=urbanrealtor]Its ironic how these real events can have such an impact.
I am not saying that Temecula will go this direction but environmental concerns can shift business-friendly pro-growth areas into a more environmentally conscious mindset.
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Watching the neighborhood burn down for a few bucks can do that

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[quote=bearishgurl]paramount, if this project has “been in the works for years,” then wouldn’t those who bought properties in the TV region in the last 10-15 years have heard about it or have known about it prior to signing on the dotted line? Did they buy thinking that it would never come about??

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I learned about the quarry 5 years ago, maybe it’s been kept quiet up until recently.

It’s in such a bad location (IMO) in relation to large population centers I never thought it would happen.

If it goes through, I will partially blame it on the public employee unions. Riverside County is so desperate for revenue they will throw Temecula under the bus in a heartbeat.

[paramount]

[quote=bearishgurl]paramount, if this project has “been in the works for years,” then wouldn’t those who bought properties in the TV region in the last 10-15 years have heard about it or have known about it prior to signing on the dotted line? Did they buy thinking that it would never come about??

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I learned about the quarry 5 years ago, maybe it’s been kept quiet up until recently.

It’s in such a bad location (IMO) in relation to large population centers I never thought it would happen.

If it goes through, I will partially blame it on the public employee unions. Riverside County is so desperate for revenue they will throw Temecula under the bus in a heartbeat.

[paramount]

[quote=bearishgurl]paramount, if this project has “been in the works for years,” then wouldn’t those who bought properties in the TV region in the last 10-15 years have heard about it or have known about it prior to signing on the dotted line? Did they buy thinking that it would never come about??

[/quote]

I learned about the quarry 5 years ago, maybe it’s been kept quiet up until recently.

It’s in such a bad location (IMO) in relation to large population centers I never thought it would happen.

If it goes through, I will partially blame it on the public employee unions. Riverside County is so desperate for revenue they will throw Temecula under the bus in a heartbeat.

[paramount]

[quote=bearishgurl]paramount, if this project has “been in the works for years,” then wouldn’t those who bought properties in the TV region in the last 10-15 years have heard about it or have known about it prior to signing on the dotted line? Did they buy thinking that it would never come about??

[/quote]

I learned about the quarry 5 years ago, maybe it’s been kept quiet up until recently.

It’s in such a bad location (IMO) in relation to large population centers I never thought it would happen.

If it goes through, I will partially blame it on the public employee unions. Riverside County is so desperate for revenue they will throw Temecula under the bus in a heartbeat.

[paramount]

[quote=bearishgurl]paramount, if this project has “been in the works for years,” then wouldn’t those who bought properties in the TV region in the last 10-15 years have heard about it or have known about it prior to signing on the dotted line? Did they buy thinking that it would never come about??

[/quote]

I learned about the quarry 5 years ago, maybe it’s been kept quiet up until recently.

It’s in such a bad location (IMO) in relation to large population centers I never thought it would happen.

If it goes through, I will partially blame it on the public employee unions. Riverside County is so desperate for revenue they will throw Temecula under the bus in a heartbeat.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=paramount]

I learned about the quarry 5 years ago, maybe it’s been kept quiet up until recently.

It’s in such a bad location (IMO) in relation to large population centers I never thought it would happen.

If it goes through, I will partially blame it on the public employee unions. Riverside County is so desperate for revenue they will throw Temecula under the bus in a heartbeat.[/quote]

I don’t buy that as an argument for a minute.
The taxes in the Temecula through Sun City area are higher than almost anywhere else in the state. And most of them get around Prop 13 by be usage based and not ad-valorem.

The per-property tax pull on those places is huge.

My point is that I doubt that they would mess with that equation much for a small number.

My guess is that the Temecula constituency has a pro-business leaning and that the county powers got sold a story about how low impact (and good for business) it would be.
And I suppose in the end there could be very little quality of life impact.
However, it only takes a few scandals or public dustups for the public to totally lose faith in their leaders.
The pension issue here was the first time I ever heard broad public criticism from the local media of our local government.
Now that criticism and public cynicism seems like the norm.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=paramount]

I learned about the quarry 5 years ago, maybe it’s been kept quiet up until recently.

It’s in such a bad location (IMO) in relation to large population centers I never thought it would happen.

If it goes through, I will partially blame it on the public employee unions. Riverside County is so desperate for revenue they will throw Temecula under the bus in a heartbeat.[/quote]

I don’t buy that as an argument for a minute.
The taxes in the Temecula through Sun City area are higher than almost anywhere else in the state. And most of them get around Prop 13 by be usage based and not ad-valorem.

The per-property tax pull on those places is huge.

My point is that I doubt that they would mess with that equation much for a small number.

My guess is that the Temecula constituency has a pro-business leaning and that the county powers got sold a story about how low impact (and good for business) it would be.
And I suppose in the end there could be very little quality of life impact.
However, it only takes a few scandals or public dustups for the public to totally lose faith in their leaders.
The pension issue here was the first time I ever heard broad public criticism from the local media of our local government.
Now that criticism and public cynicism seems like the norm.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=paramount]

I learned about the quarry 5 years ago, maybe it’s been kept quiet up until recently.

It’s in such a bad location (IMO) in relation to large population centers I never thought it would happen.

If it goes through, I will partially blame it on the public employee unions. Riverside County is so desperate for revenue they will throw Temecula under the bus in a heartbeat.[/quote]

I don’t buy that as an argument for a minute.
The taxes in the Temecula through Sun City area are higher than almost anywhere else in the state. And most of them get around Prop 13 by be usage based and not ad-valorem.

The per-property tax pull on those places is huge.

My point is that I doubt that they would mess with that equation much for a small number.

My guess is that the Temecula constituency has a pro-business leaning and that the county powers got sold a story about how low impact (and good for business) it would be.
And I suppose in the end there could be very little quality of life impact.
However, it only takes a few scandals or public dustups for the public to totally lose faith in their leaders.
The pension issue here was the first time I ever heard broad public criticism from the local media of our local government.
Now that criticism and public cynicism seems like the norm.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=paramount]

I learned about the quarry 5 years ago, maybe it’s been kept quiet up until recently.

It’s in such a bad location (IMO) in relation to large population centers I never thought it would happen.

If it goes through, I will partially blame it on the public employee unions. Riverside County is so desperate for revenue they will throw Temecula under the bus in a heartbeat.[/quote]

I don’t buy that as an argument for a minute.
The taxes in the Temecula through Sun City area are higher than almost anywhere else in the state. And most of them get around Prop 13 by be usage based and not ad-valorem.

The per-property tax pull on those places is huge.

My point is that I doubt that they would mess with that equation much for a small number.

My guess is that the Temecula constituency has a pro-business leaning and that the county powers got sold a story about how low impact (and good for business) it would be.
And I suppose in the end there could be very little quality of life impact.
However, it only takes a few scandals or public dustups for the public to totally lose faith in their leaders.
The pension issue here was the first time I ever heard broad public criticism from the local media of our local government.
Now that criticism and public cynicism seems like the norm.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=paramount]

I learned about the quarry 5 years ago, maybe it’s been kept quiet up until recently.

It’s in such a bad location (IMO) in relation to large population centers I never thought it would happen.

If it goes through, I will partially blame it on the public employee unions. Riverside County is so desperate for revenue they will throw Temecula under the bus in a heartbeat.[/quote]

I don’t buy that as an argument for a minute.
The taxes in the Temecula through Sun City area are higher than almost anywhere else in the state. And most of them get around Prop 13 by be usage based and not ad-valorem.

The per-property tax pull on those places is huge.

My point is that I doubt that they would mess with that equation much for a small number.

My guess is that the Temecula constituency has a pro-business leaning and that the county powers got sold a story about how low impact (and good for business) it would be.
And I suppose in the end there could be very little quality of life impact.
However, it only takes a few scandals or public dustups for the public to totally lose faith in their leaders.
The pension issue here was the first time I ever heard broad public criticism from the local media of our local government.
Now that criticism and public cynicism seems like the norm.

[paramount]

[quote=urbanrealtor]
And I suppose in the end there could be very little quality of life impact.
[/quote]

I hope that is the case, but even the EIR states there will be significant pollution, air quality and traffic impacts that cannot be mitigated.

The City of Temecula has spent large sums of money fighting this quarry, even attempting to annex the entire area where the asphalt/cement operation would be located.

[paramount]

[quote=urbanrealtor]
And I suppose in the end there could be very little quality of life impact.
[/quote]

I hope that is the case, but even the EIR states there will be significant pollution, air quality and traffic impacts that cannot be mitigated.

The City of Temecula has spent large sums of money fighting this quarry, even attempting to annex the entire area where the asphalt/cement operation would be located.

[paramount]

[quote=urbanrealtor]
And I suppose in the end there could be very little quality of life impact.
[/quote]

I hope that is the case, but even the EIR states there will be significant pollution, air quality and traffic impacts that cannot be mitigated.

The City of Temecula has spent large sums of money fighting this quarry, even attempting to annex the entire area where the asphalt/cement operation would be located.

[paramount]

[quote=urbanrealtor]
And I suppose in the end there could be very little quality of life impact.
[/quote]

I hope that is the case, but even the EIR states there will be significant pollution, air quality and traffic impacts that cannot be mitigated.

The City of Temecula has spent large sums of money fighting this quarry, even attempting to annex the entire area where the asphalt/cement operation would be located.

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