Leaving SD for Orlando

[CA renter]

[quote=scaredycat]http://livingeconomics.org/article.asp?docId=75

google “happiness relative wealth” and you’ll find lots of links to studies. You don’t need to be rich to be happy, you need to be doing better than those around you. You can protest all you want, about how you don’t care how you stack up next to your neighbor, but it’s pretty unlikely you’re being truthful with yourself. We’re hard-wired tobe this way, something about survival and brain stuff and reproduction. We compete locally. There probably are a few enlightened souls here and there who are truly above the fray, but the local realtors, attorneys, engineers? probably not…we all probably wan tto be doing at least as good as the mean, and preferably a lot better. And certainly better than the average slob in the area.

And yeah, if you could be the local village warlord in somalia, you’d probably be damned happy! But if you just showed up with a bunch of traveler’s checks? not so much….money being just shorthand for power in our local neck of the woods…[/quote]

You are absolutely right, scaredy.

It is all relative.
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sdr,

If you were in the bottom quartile, you would not be able to enjoy the lifestyle you enjoy. You’re thinking too locally for what scaredy is talking about. The people in your specific neighborhood ARE the top third. That’s why you don’t feel what scaredy is talking about.

If you were one of the poor families living in one of the more marginal neighborhoods in our local zips, you would not be able to enjoy golf or fine dining. You would not have the time to enjoy your family, either, because you would be working at some miserable job for less than $40K/year and having to put in lots of overtime just to make ends meet. Somehow, I don’t think you’d be nearly as happy in that situation.

[CA renter]

[quote=bob2007]Hi Cardiff,

Best of luck with your move and I sincerely wish you well. I moved to SD from the east coast a long time ago. Florida would be the first place I would consider if moving. Rent first so you don’t feel “trapped” in your decision, and more importantly, find a good neighborhood.

When we moved here we walked the dog around areas we were interested in, and chose among the ones where people would wave and say hi as we walked around. There were many.

To add some balance to this thread, I love it here. Didn’t have any problem making good friends, and that is a major reason we don’t want to move.

The government is CA is a mess, but it is in a lot of other places too (not that it makes it ok). Hopefully the pendulum will start to swing the other way again and things will get better.

For those here who keep saying it is so bad, MOVE!. People who whine and don’t do anything about it are underachievers and their perspective should be considered along with their opinions. Adjust your lifestyle, or if you can’t seem to generate enough revenue for the one you want, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, like CardiffB is doing. I have a lot of respect for that.

For those who can’t make friends, how attractive is a friendship with a person who hates where they live? Jeez.[/quote]

It’s probably best not to come to a new place and tell the locals/natives to leave, no matter how much you might disagree with them.

That being said, many of us are from here (Southern California), and we’ve seen the steady decline in our quality of life. I have no doubt this has a large effect on our perspectives vs. those who are coming from somewhere else.

[CA renter]

[quote=bob2007]Hi Cardiff,

Best of luck with your move and I sincerely wish you well. I moved to SD from the east coast a long time ago. Florida would be the first place I would consider if moving. Rent first so you don’t feel “trapped” in your decision, and more importantly, find a good neighborhood.

When we moved here we walked the dog around areas we were interested in, and chose among the ones where people would wave and say hi as we walked around. There were many.

To add some balance to this thread, I love it here. Didn’t have any problem making good friends, and that is a major reason we don’t want to move.

The government is CA is a mess, but it is in a lot of other places too (not that it makes it ok). Hopefully the pendulum will start to swing the other way again and things will get better.

For those here who keep saying it is so bad, MOVE!. People who whine and don’t do anything about it are underachievers and their perspective should be considered along with their opinions. Adjust your lifestyle, or if you can’t seem to generate enough revenue for the one you want, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, like CardiffB is doing. I have a lot of respect for that.

For those who can’t make friends, how attractive is a friendship with a person who hates where they live? Jeez.[/quote]

It’s probably best not to come to a new place and tell the locals/natives to leave, no matter how much you might disagree with them.

That being said, many of us are from here (Southern California), and we’ve seen the steady decline in our quality of life. I have no doubt this has a large effect on our perspectives vs. those who are coming from somewhere else.

[CA renter]

[quote=bob2007]Hi Cardiff,

Best of luck with your move and I sincerely wish you well. I moved to SD from the east coast a long time ago. Florida would be the first place I would consider if moving. Rent first so you don’t feel “trapped” in your decision, and more importantly, find a good neighborhood.

When we moved here we walked the dog around areas we were interested in, and chose among the ones where people would wave and say hi as we walked around. There were many.

To add some balance to this thread, I love it here. Didn’t have any problem making good friends, and that is a major reason we don’t want to move.

The government is CA is a mess, but it is in a lot of other places too (not that it makes it ok). Hopefully the pendulum will start to swing the other way again and things will get better.

For those here who keep saying it is so bad, MOVE!. People who whine and don’t do anything about it are underachievers and their perspective should be considered along with their opinions. Adjust your lifestyle, or if you can’t seem to generate enough revenue for the one you want, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, like CardiffB is doing. I have a lot of respect for that.

For those who can’t make friends, how attractive is a friendship with a person who hates where they live? Jeez.[/quote]

It’s probably best not to come to a new place and tell the locals/natives to leave, no matter how much you might disagree with them.

That being said, many of us are from here (Southern California), and we’ve seen the steady decline in our quality of life. I have no doubt this has a large effect on our perspectives vs. those who are coming from somewhere else.

[CA renter]

[quote=bob2007]Hi Cardiff,

Best of luck with your move and I sincerely wish you well. I moved to SD from the east coast a long time ago. Florida would be the first place I would consider if moving. Rent first so you don’t feel “trapped” in your decision, and more importantly, find a good neighborhood.

When we moved here we walked the dog around areas we were interested in, and chose among the ones where people would wave and say hi as we walked around. There were many.

To add some balance to this thread, I love it here. Didn’t have any problem making good friends, and that is a major reason we don’t want to move.

The government is CA is a mess, but it is in a lot of other places too (not that it makes it ok). Hopefully the pendulum will start to swing the other way again and things will get better.

For those here who keep saying it is so bad, MOVE!. People who whine and don’t do anything about it are underachievers and their perspective should be considered along with their opinions. Adjust your lifestyle, or if you can’t seem to generate enough revenue for the one you want, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, like CardiffB is doing. I have a lot of respect for that.

For those who can’t make friends, how attractive is a friendship with a person who hates where they live? Jeez.[/quote]

It’s probably best not to come to a new place and tell the locals/natives to leave, no matter how much you might disagree with them.

That being said, many of us are from here (Southern California), and we’ve seen the steady decline in our quality of life. I have no doubt this has a large effect on our perspectives vs. those who are coming from somewhere else.

[CA renter]

[quote=bob2007]Hi Cardiff,

Best of luck with your move and I sincerely wish you well. I moved to SD from the east coast a long time ago. Florida would be the first place I would consider if moving. Rent first so you don’t feel “trapped” in your decision, and more importantly, find a good neighborhood.

When we moved here we walked the dog around areas we were interested in, and chose among the ones where people would wave and say hi as we walked around. There were many.

To add some balance to this thread, I love it here. Didn’t have any problem making good friends, and that is a major reason we don’t want to move.

The government is CA is a mess, but it is in a lot of other places too (not that it makes it ok). Hopefully the pendulum will start to swing the other way again and things will get better.

For those here who keep saying it is so bad, MOVE!. People who whine and don’t do anything about it are underachievers and their perspective should be considered along with their opinions. Adjust your lifestyle, or if you can’t seem to generate enough revenue for the one you want, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, like CardiffB is doing. I have a lot of respect for that.

For those who can’t make friends, how attractive is a friendship with a person who hates where they live? Jeez.[/quote]

It’s probably best not to come to a new place and tell the locals/natives to leave, no matter how much you might disagree with them.

That being said, many of us are from here (Southern California), and we’ve seen the steady decline in our quality of life. I have no doubt this has a large effect on our perspectives vs. those who are coming from somewhere else.

[jpinpb]

[quote=CA renter]That being said, many of us are from here (Southern California), and we’ve seen the steady decline in our quality of life. I have no doubt this has a large effect on our perspectives vs. those who are coming from somewhere else.[/quote]

CAR – well said. Maybe long for the days when it was nicer. It can be easy to compare and see the slow deterioration. I think at time it’s more a sense of frustration. Perhaps we remember how things might have been better and many things are out of our control.

[jpinpb]

[quote=CA renter]That being said, many of us are from here (Southern California), and we’ve seen the steady decline in our quality of life. I have no doubt this has a large effect on our perspectives vs. those who are coming from somewhere else.[/quote]

CAR – well said. Maybe long for the days when it was nicer. It can be easy to compare and see the slow deterioration. I think at time it’s more a sense of frustration. Perhaps we remember how things might have been better and many things are out of our control.

[jpinpb]

[quote=CA renter]That being said, many of us are from here (Southern California), and we’ve seen the steady decline in our quality of life. I have no doubt this has a large effect on our perspectives vs. those who are coming from somewhere else.[/quote]

CAR – well said. Maybe long for the days when it was nicer. It can be easy to compare and see the slow deterioration. I think at time it’s more a sense of frustration. Perhaps we remember how things might have been better and many things are out of our control.

[jpinpb]

[quote=CA renter]That being said, many of us are from here (Southern California), and we’ve seen the steady decline in our quality of life. I have no doubt this has a large effect on our perspectives vs. those who are coming from somewhere else.[/quote]

CAR – well said. Maybe long for the days when it was nicer. It can be easy to compare and see the slow deterioration. I think at time it’s more a sense of frustration. Perhaps we remember how things might have been better and many things are out of our control.

[jpinpb]

[quote=CA renter]That being said, many of us are from here (Southern California), and we’ve seen the steady decline in our quality of life. I have no doubt this has a large effect on our perspectives vs. those who are coming from somewhere else.[/quote]

CAR – well said. Maybe long for the days when it was nicer. It can be easy to compare and see the slow deterioration. I think at time it’s more a sense of frustration. Perhaps we remember how things might have been better and many things are out of our control.

[scaredyclassic]

for me, I have to be doing as well or better than peers, or i feel pangs of discomfort. i am aware of this, and so i don’t think I am totally psychologically controlled by it. When I think back to a guy i used to work closely with in a different field who went on to become extraordinarily successful and wealthy, I become almost physically ill with jealousy.

kinda like the main character in BREAKING BAD feels…

[scaredyclassic]

for me, I have to be doing as well or better than peers, or i feel pangs of discomfort. i am aware of this, and so i don’t think I am totally psychologically controlled by it. When I think back to a guy i used to work closely with in a different field who went on to become extraordinarily successful and wealthy, I become almost physically ill with jealousy.

kinda like the main character in BREAKING BAD feels…

[scaredyclassic]

for me, I have to be doing as well or better than peers, or i feel pangs of discomfort. i am aware of this, and so i don’t think I am totally psychologically controlled by it. When I think back to a guy i used to work closely with in a different field who went on to become extraordinarily successful and wealthy, I become almost physically ill with jealousy.

kinda like the main character in BREAKING BAD feels…

[scaredyclassic]

for me, I have to be doing as well or better than peers, or i feel pangs of discomfort. i am aware of this, and so i don’t think I am totally psychologically controlled by it. When I think back to a guy i used to work closely with in a different field who went on to become extraordinarily successful and wealthy, I become almost physically ill with jealousy.

kinda like the main character in BREAKING BAD feels…

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