Leaving SD for Orlando

[sdrealtor]

[quote=CA renter][quote=bob2007]Ah yes, the “drawbridge”. After you move here/are born, everyone else degrades your life. If your going to make that argument you better go back a lot further than your own birth date.

Besides, I think you missed the point. If you are unhappy with where you are, regardless of how you got there, it affects everyday decisions both big and small. This will affect how you make friends, get along with coworkers, and likely job performance as well. With that attitude things will only get worse and perceived as things “happening to you”. My point/opinion is that its better to do something about it, rather than languish in the despair and decline in your quality of life.[/quote]

There is a certain “carrying capacity” here. Our resources are finite (water, infrastructure, land, clean air/ability to handle pollution, etc.). My DH is a third-generation Californian, and my parents moved here in the 1940s (dad) and early 1950s (mom). There was, in fact, much more room here, and it was totally possible for a middle-class family to live a decent life in a clean, safe neighborhood with a single earner (even one without a college degree!). We had lots of open space, even during my childhood, and we could get around fairly easily without too much traffic.

FWIW, I’m not a whiner by any means, and we’re perfectly fine, financially-speaking (no debt at all, plenty of cash, steady income). You just have to understand that those of us who grew up here have definitely seen some major changes for the worse. Many of us think things really started getting bad in the 80s. Personally, I love California, but hate what it’s becoming.

It’s just a matter of perspective.[/quote]

I could easily say the exact same thing about where I grew up. It was apple orchards and cornfields but now is nothing but industrial parks and housing developments. The Garden State is no longer the Garden State. Any decent place in the US has grown rapidly since the 70’s and has undergone major fundamental changes in the way of life residents lead. Get over it. We live in Paradise here and if you dont think so, there is still plenty of room in Omaha.

[NotCranky]

[quote=sdrealtor][quote=CA renter][quote=bob2007]Ah yes, the “drawbridge”. After you move here/are born, everyone else degrades your life. If your going to make that argument you better go back a lot further than your own birth date.

Besides, I think you missed the point. If you are unhappy with where you are, regardless of how you got there, it affects everyday decisions both big and small. This will affect how you make friends, get along with coworkers, and likely job performance as well. With that attitude things will only get worse and perceived as things “happening to you”. My point/opinion is that its better to do something about it, rather than languish in the despair and decline in your quality of life.[/quote]

There is a certain “carrying capacity” here. Our resources are finite (water, infrastructure, land, clean air/ability to handle pollution, etc.). My DH is a third-generation Californian, and my parents moved here in the 1940s (dad) and early 1950s (mom). There was, in fact, much more room here, and it was totally possible for a middle-class family to live a decent life in a clean, safe neighborhood with a single earner (even one without a college degree!). We had lots of open space, even during my childhood, and we could get around fairly easily without too much traffic.

FWIW, I’m not a whiner by any means, and we’re perfectly fine, financially-speaking (no debt at all, plenty of cash, steady income). You just have to understand that those of us who grew up here have definitely seen some major changes for the worse. Many of us think things really started getting bad in the 80s. Personally, I love California, but hate what it’s becoming.

It’s just a matter of perspective.[/quote]

I could easily say the exact same thing about where I grew up. It was apple orchards and cornfields but now is nothing but industrial parks and housing developments. The Garden State is no longer the Garden State. Any decent place in the US has grown rapidly since the 70’s and has undergone major fundamental changes in the way of life residents lead. Get over it. We live in Paradise here and if you dont think so, there is still plenty of room in Omaha.[/quote]

[NotCranky]

[quote=sdrealtor][quote=CA renter][quote=bob2007]Ah yes, the “drawbridge”. After you move here/are born, everyone else degrades your life. If your going to make that argument you better go back a lot further than your own birth date.

Besides, I think you missed the point. If you are unhappy with where you are, regardless of how you got there, it affects everyday decisions both big and small. This will affect how you make friends, get along with coworkers, and likely job performance as well. With that attitude things will only get worse and perceived as things “happening to you”. My point/opinion is that its better to do something about it, rather than languish in the despair and decline in your quality of life.[/quote]

There is a certain “carrying capacity” here. Our resources are finite (water, infrastructure, land, clean air/ability to handle pollution, etc.). My DH is a third-generation Californian, and my parents moved here in the 1940s (dad) and early 1950s (mom). There was, in fact, much more room here, and it was totally possible for a middle-class family to live a decent life in a clean, safe neighborhood with a single earner (even one without a college degree!). We had lots of open space, even during my childhood, and we could get around fairly easily without too much traffic.

FWIW, I’m not a whiner by any means, and we’re perfectly fine, financially-speaking (no debt at all, plenty of cash, steady income). You just have to understand that those of us who grew up here have definitely seen some major changes for the worse. Many of us think things really started getting bad in the 80s. Personally, I love California, but hate what it’s becoming.

It’s just a matter of perspective.[/quote]

I could easily say the exact same thing about where I grew up. It was apple orchards and cornfields but now is nothing but industrial parks and housing developments. The Garden State is no longer the Garden State. Any decent place in the US has grown rapidly since the 70’s and has undergone major fundamental changes in the way of life residents lead. Get over it. We live in Paradise here and if you dont think so, there is still plenty of room in Omaha.[/quote]

[NotCranky]

[quote=sdrealtor][quote=CA renter][quote=bob2007]Ah yes, the “drawbridge”. After you move here/are born, everyone else degrades your life. If your going to make that argument you better go back a lot further than your own birth date.

Besides, I think you missed the point. If you are unhappy with where you are, regardless of how you got there, it affects everyday decisions both big and small. This will affect how you make friends, get along with coworkers, and likely job performance as well. With that attitude things will only get worse and perceived as things “happening to you”. My point/opinion is that its better to do something about it, rather than languish in the despair and decline in your quality of life.[/quote]

There is a certain “carrying capacity” here. Our resources are finite (water, infrastructure, land, clean air/ability to handle pollution, etc.). My DH is a third-generation Californian, and my parents moved here in the 1940s (dad) and early 1950s (mom). There was, in fact, much more room here, and it was totally possible for a middle-class family to live a decent life in a clean, safe neighborhood with a single earner (even one without a college degree!). We had lots of open space, even during my childhood, and we could get around fairly easily without too much traffic.

FWIW, I’m not a whiner by any means, and we’re perfectly fine, financially-speaking (no debt at all, plenty of cash, steady income). You just have to understand that those of us who grew up here have definitely seen some major changes for the worse. Many of us think things really started getting bad in the 80s. Personally, I love California, but hate what it’s becoming.

It’s just a matter of perspective.[/quote]

I could easily say the exact same thing about where I grew up. It was apple orchards and cornfields but now is nothing but industrial parks and housing developments. The Garden State is no longer the Garden State. Any decent place in the US has grown rapidly since the 70’s and has undergone major fundamental changes in the way of life residents lead. Get over it. We live in Paradise here and if you dont think so, there is still plenty of room in Omaha.[/quote]

[NotCranky]

[quote=sdrealtor][quote=CA renter][quote=bob2007]Ah yes, the “drawbridge”. After you move here/are born, everyone else degrades your life. If your going to make that argument you better go back a lot further than your own birth date.

Besides, I think you missed the point. If you are unhappy with where you are, regardless of how you got there, it affects everyday decisions both big and small. This will affect how you make friends, get along with coworkers, and likely job performance as well. With that attitude things will only get worse and perceived as things “happening to you”. My point/opinion is that its better to do something about it, rather than languish in the despair and decline in your quality of life.[/quote]

There is a certain “carrying capacity” here. Our resources are finite (water, infrastructure, land, clean air/ability to handle pollution, etc.). My DH is a third-generation Californian, and my parents moved here in the 1940s (dad) and early 1950s (mom). There was, in fact, much more room here, and it was totally possible for a middle-class family to live a decent life in a clean, safe neighborhood with a single earner (even one without a college degree!). We had lots of open space, even during my childhood, and we could get around fairly easily without too much traffic.

FWIW, I’m not a whiner by any means, and we’re perfectly fine, financially-speaking (no debt at all, plenty of cash, steady income). You just have to understand that those of us who grew up here have definitely seen some major changes for the worse. Many of us think things really started getting bad in the 80s. Personally, I love California, but hate what it’s becoming.

It’s just a matter of perspective.[/quote]

I could easily say the exact same thing about where I grew up. It was apple orchards and cornfields but now is nothing but industrial parks and housing developments. The Garden State is no longer the Garden State. Any decent place in the US has grown rapidly since the 70’s and has undergone major fundamental changes in the way of life residents lead. Get over it. We live in Paradise here and if you dont think so, there is still plenty of room in Omaha.[/quote]

[NotCranky]

[quote=sdrealtor][quote=CA renter][quote=bob2007]Ah yes, the “drawbridge”. After you move here/are born, everyone else degrades your life. If your going to make that argument you better go back a lot further than your own birth date.

Besides, I think you missed the point. If you are unhappy with where you are, regardless of how you got there, it affects everyday decisions both big and small. This will affect how you make friends, get along with coworkers, and likely job performance as well. With that attitude things will only get worse and perceived as things “happening to you”. My point/opinion is that its better to do something about it, rather than languish in the despair and decline in your quality of life.[/quote]

There is a certain “carrying capacity” here. Our resources are finite (water, infrastructure, land, clean air/ability to handle pollution, etc.). My DH is a third-generation Californian, and my parents moved here in the 1940s (dad) and early 1950s (mom). There was, in fact, much more room here, and it was totally possible for a middle-class family to live a decent life in a clean, safe neighborhood with a single earner (even one without a college degree!). We had lots of open space, even during my childhood, and we could get around fairly easily without too much traffic.

FWIW, I’m not a whiner by any means, and we’re perfectly fine, financially-speaking (no debt at all, plenty of cash, steady income). You just have to understand that those of us who grew up here have definitely seen some major changes for the worse. Many of us think things really started getting bad in the 80s. Personally, I love California, but hate what it’s becoming.

It’s just a matter of perspective.[/quote]

I could easily say the exact same thing about where I grew up. It was apple orchards and cornfields but now is nothing but industrial parks and housing developments. The Garden State is no longer the Garden State. Any decent place in the US has grown rapidly since the 70’s and has undergone major fundamental changes in the way of life residents lead. Get over it. We live in Paradise here and if you dont think so, there is still plenty of room in Omaha.[/quote]

[scaredyclassic]

Pretzels and spaghetti? I love pretzels and spaghetti. I feel a little envious of your pretzel wealth … But seriously it is difficult for mr to imagine life with no regard for where one is in the pecking order. That’s human. We move in packs like dogs, we strive to dominate, to get more resources, to spawn w the hot smart chicks. Appearing not to care about a lack of resources or status is just one temporary and effective mechanism to socially cope while preparing to move up the pecking order.

Everything was better in the 70’s

[scaredyclassic]

Pretzels and spaghetti? I love pretzels and spaghetti. I feel a little envious of your pretzel wealth … But seriously it is difficult for mr to imagine life with no regard for where one is in the pecking order. That’s human. We move in packs like dogs, we strive to dominate, to get more resources, to spawn w the hot smart chicks. Appearing not to care about a lack of resources or status is just one temporary and effective mechanism to socially cope while preparing to move up the pecking order.

Everything was better in the 70’s

[scaredyclassic]

Pretzels and spaghetti? I love pretzels and spaghetti. I feel a little envious of your pretzel wealth … But seriously it is difficult for mr to imagine life with no regard for where one is in the pecking order. That’s human. We move in packs like dogs, we strive to dominate, to get more resources, to spawn w the hot smart chicks. Appearing not to care about a lack of resources or status is just one temporary and effective mechanism to socially cope while preparing to move up the pecking order.

Everything was better in the 70’s

[scaredyclassic]

Pretzels and spaghetti? I love pretzels and spaghetti. I feel a little envious of your pretzel wealth … But seriously it is difficult for mr to imagine life with no regard for where one is in the pecking order. That’s human. We move in packs like dogs, we strive to dominate, to get more resources, to spawn w the hot smart chicks. Appearing not to care about a lack of resources or status is just one temporary and effective mechanism to socially cope while preparing to move up the pecking order.

Everything was better in the 70’s

[scaredyclassic]

Pretzels and spaghetti? I love pretzels and spaghetti. I feel a little envious of your pretzel wealth … But seriously it is difficult for mr to imagine life with no regard for where one is in the pecking order. That’s human. We move in packs like dogs, we strive to dominate, to get more resources, to spawn w the hot smart chicks. Appearing not to care about a lack of resources or status is just one temporary and effective mechanism to socially cope while preparing to move up the pecking order.

Everything was better in the 70’s

[NotCranky]

Went speechless there for a moment.

I am also a native Southern Californian. Sometimes I wonder if the shine wearing off of California isn’t more attributed to innocence lost and the hardships the responsibilities we bring on as adults. I think it has as much to do with this as with the hordes of invaders from other states.

Remember when your entire little league team could ride in the back of a pick-up truck for ice-cream…or when you could ride your bike around town to various gas stations…no helmet on and ask the gas attendants for stickers for your bike…when you didn’t know how ill a lot of people are or how bad everyone in government is?

When I get up early and take my kids to walk from dead mans down to the cove, for instance, I understand that nothing has really changed but perception. They can’t perceive kelp beds almost empty of sea life or barren sand where there used to be pismo clams or see that the abalone are gone. They don’t know how freakish these big box stores and strip mall after strip mall with the same 10 stores in them are. It’s all exciting. California is just as wonderful to them as it was to me…and I still like it O.K.

[NotCranky]

Went speechless there for a moment.

I am also a native Southern Californian. Sometimes I wonder if the shine wearing off of California isn’t more attributed to innocence lost and the hardships the responsibilities we bring on as adults. I think it has as much to do with this as with the hordes of invaders from other states.

Remember when your entire little league team could ride in the back of a pick-up truck for ice-cream…or when you could ride your bike around town to various gas stations…no helmet on and ask the gas attendants for stickers for your bike…when you didn’t know how ill a lot of people are or how bad everyone in government is?

When I get up early and take my kids to walk from dead mans down to the cove, for instance, I understand that nothing has really changed but perception. They can’t perceive kelp beds almost empty of sea life or barren sand where there used to be pismo clams or see that the abalone are gone. They don’t know how freakish these big box stores and strip mall after strip mall with the same 10 stores in them are. It’s all exciting. California is just as wonderful to them as it was to me…and I still like it O.K.

[NotCranky]

Went speechless there for a moment.

I am also a native Southern Californian. Sometimes I wonder if the shine wearing off of California isn’t more attributed to innocence lost and the hardships the responsibilities we bring on as adults. I think it has as much to do with this as with the hordes of invaders from other states.

Remember when your entire little league team could ride in the back of a pick-up truck for ice-cream…or when you could ride your bike around town to various gas stations…no helmet on and ask the gas attendants for stickers for your bike…when you didn’t know how ill a lot of people are or how bad everyone in government is?

When I get up early and take my kids to walk from dead mans down to the cove, for instance, I understand that nothing has really changed but perception. They can’t perceive kelp beds almost empty of sea life or barren sand where there used to be pismo clams or see that the abalone are gone. They don’t know how freakish these big box stores and strip mall after strip mall with the same 10 stores in them are. It’s all exciting. California is just as wonderful to them as it was to me…and I still like it O.K.

[NotCranky]

Went speechless there for a moment.

I am also a native Southern Californian. Sometimes I wonder if the shine wearing off of California isn’t more attributed to innocence lost and the hardships the responsibilities we bring on as adults. I think it has as much to do with this as with the hordes of invaders from other states.

Remember when your entire little league team could ride in the back of a pick-up truck for ice-cream…or when you could ride your bike around town to various gas stations…no helmet on and ask the gas attendants for stickers for your bike…when you didn’t know how ill a lot of people are or how bad everyone in government is?

When I get up early and take my kids to walk from dead mans down to the cove, for instance, I understand that nothing has really changed but perception. They can’t perceive kelp beds almost empty of sea life or barren sand where there used to be pismo clams or see that the abalone are gone. They don’t know how freakish these big box stores and strip mall after strip mall with the same 10 stores in them are. It’s all exciting. California is just as wonderful to them as it was to me…and I still like it O.K.

[Author]

Posts