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November 12, 2008 at 12:33 AM #303522November 12, 2008 at 12:36 AM #303082SD RealtorParticipant
Micro I could not agree more. I didn’t vote for the O either but he is my president and I will indeed respect him and give him the shot he deserves. I hope I was wrong in my fears aas well.
Actually I think the 20 years in the field is more impressive then anything. I am blessed to work everyday with people who have PhDs and who are pretty much way smarter then I. My work is extremely challenging and I really enjoy it. I cannot describe just how orthogonal it is to real estate though. One job is based on logic and technical achievement while the other is based on dealing with emotional trainwrecks and focusses primarly on interpersonal skills.
ps I would like the bandaid ripped off to but it looks like they are putting more bandaids on and then a freeking plaster cast.
November 12, 2008 at 12:36 AM #303443SD RealtorParticipantMicro I could not agree more. I didn’t vote for the O either but he is my president and I will indeed respect him and give him the shot he deserves. I hope I was wrong in my fears aas well.
Actually I think the 20 years in the field is more impressive then anything. I am blessed to work everyday with people who have PhDs and who are pretty much way smarter then I. My work is extremely challenging and I really enjoy it. I cannot describe just how orthogonal it is to real estate though. One job is based on logic and technical achievement while the other is based on dealing with emotional trainwrecks and focusses primarly on interpersonal skills.
ps I would like the bandaid ripped off to but it looks like they are putting more bandaids on and then a freeking plaster cast.
November 12, 2008 at 12:36 AM #303454SD RealtorParticipantMicro I could not agree more. I didn’t vote for the O either but he is my president and I will indeed respect him and give him the shot he deserves. I hope I was wrong in my fears aas well.
Actually I think the 20 years in the field is more impressive then anything. I am blessed to work everyday with people who have PhDs and who are pretty much way smarter then I. My work is extremely challenging and I really enjoy it. I cannot describe just how orthogonal it is to real estate though. One job is based on logic and technical achievement while the other is based on dealing with emotional trainwrecks and focusses primarly on interpersonal skills.
ps I would like the bandaid ripped off to but it looks like they are putting more bandaids on and then a freeking plaster cast.
November 12, 2008 at 12:36 AM #303471SD RealtorParticipantMicro I could not agree more. I didn’t vote for the O either but he is my president and I will indeed respect him and give him the shot he deserves. I hope I was wrong in my fears aas well.
Actually I think the 20 years in the field is more impressive then anything. I am blessed to work everyday with people who have PhDs and who are pretty much way smarter then I. My work is extremely challenging and I really enjoy it. I cannot describe just how orthogonal it is to real estate though. One job is based on logic and technical achievement while the other is based on dealing with emotional trainwrecks and focusses primarly on interpersonal skills.
ps I would like the bandaid ripped off to but it looks like they are putting more bandaids on and then a freeking plaster cast.
November 12, 2008 at 12:36 AM #303527SD RealtorParticipantMicro I could not agree more. I didn’t vote for the O either but he is my president and I will indeed respect him and give him the shot he deserves. I hope I was wrong in my fears aas well.
Actually I think the 20 years in the field is more impressive then anything. I am blessed to work everyday with people who have PhDs and who are pretty much way smarter then I. My work is extremely challenging and I really enjoy it. I cannot describe just how orthogonal it is to real estate though. One job is based on logic and technical achievement while the other is based on dealing with emotional trainwrecks and focusses primarly on interpersonal skills.
ps I would like the bandaid ripped off to but it looks like they are putting more bandaids on and then a freeking plaster cast.
November 12, 2008 at 12:58 AM #303092NotCrankyParticipantDon’t know why but this thread is making me think a pigg campaign to “Save the Bourgeoisie” is brewing.
November 12, 2008 at 12:58 AM #303453NotCrankyParticipantDon’t know why but this thread is making me think a pigg campaign to “Save the Bourgeoisie” is brewing.
November 12, 2008 at 12:58 AM #303464NotCrankyParticipantDon’t know why but this thread is making me think a pigg campaign to “Save the Bourgeoisie” is brewing.
November 12, 2008 at 12:58 AM #303481NotCrankyParticipantDon’t know why but this thread is making me think a pigg campaign to “Save the Bourgeoisie” is brewing.
November 12, 2008 at 12:58 AM #303537NotCrankyParticipantDon’t know why but this thread is making me think a pigg campaign to “Save the Bourgeoisie” is brewing.
November 12, 2008 at 1:09 AM #303097CA renterParticipantSDR,
I was one of the people who said “bring it on” some time ago. Like the OP said, we were not wishing for it, just anticipating it, and hoping to get it over with as quickly as possible.
It’s not that I want to see anyone suffer — not at all — but that we need to get beyond this debt bubble and finally land in a place where people will be rewarded for WORK (not gambling, schmoozing, and financial alchemy).
None of this had to happen, and I was writing letters to politicians and law enforcement agencies years ago, trying to do my part to stop the insane lending practices that brought us here.
Agree with the OP who said the “service economy” BS was one of the first red flags. Then, we morphed into the “finance economy” which made even less sense. We were on a downward trajectory many years ago (I believe 1982 was the genesis of our problems, as credit began its massive expansion).
BTW, I know a number of people who work for govt, and can assure you they are NOT safe. Right now, there are a number of hiring freezes, pay freezes and lots of discussions about possible lay-offs. Some cities may scale back fire and police services as well (closing stations or rotating skeleton crews from station to station, downsizing crews, among other things).
NOBODY is safe, and no investment is safe, IMHO. We are all gamblers at this point, hoping that we can just tread water until this thing collapses and we can rebuild from scratch.
You are right, SDR. What the govt is now doing will absolutely make this recession/depression worse. No rules, no plan, everyone in power seems to be flying by the seat of their pants right now. Very scary, indeed!
November 12, 2008 at 1:09 AM #303458CA renterParticipantSDR,
I was one of the people who said “bring it on” some time ago. Like the OP said, we were not wishing for it, just anticipating it, and hoping to get it over with as quickly as possible.
It’s not that I want to see anyone suffer — not at all — but that we need to get beyond this debt bubble and finally land in a place where people will be rewarded for WORK (not gambling, schmoozing, and financial alchemy).
None of this had to happen, and I was writing letters to politicians and law enforcement agencies years ago, trying to do my part to stop the insane lending practices that brought us here.
Agree with the OP who said the “service economy” BS was one of the first red flags. Then, we morphed into the “finance economy” which made even less sense. We were on a downward trajectory many years ago (I believe 1982 was the genesis of our problems, as credit began its massive expansion).
BTW, I know a number of people who work for govt, and can assure you they are NOT safe. Right now, there are a number of hiring freezes, pay freezes and lots of discussions about possible lay-offs. Some cities may scale back fire and police services as well (closing stations or rotating skeleton crews from station to station, downsizing crews, among other things).
NOBODY is safe, and no investment is safe, IMHO. We are all gamblers at this point, hoping that we can just tread water until this thing collapses and we can rebuild from scratch.
You are right, SDR. What the govt is now doing will absolutely make this recession/depression worse. No rules, no plan, everyone in power seems to be flying by the seat of their pants right now. Very scary, indeed!
November 12, 2008 at 1:09 AM #303469CA renterParticipantSDR,
I was one of the people who said “bring it on” some time ago. Like the OP said, we were not wishing for it, just anticipating it, and hoping to get it over with as quickly as possible.
It’s not that I want to see anyone suffer — not at all — but that we need to get beyond this debt bubble and finally land in a place where people will be rewarded for WORK (not gambling, schmoozing, and financial alchemy).
None of this had to happen, and I was writing letters to politicians and law enforcement agencies years ago, trying to do my part to stop the insane lending practices that brought us here.
Agree with the OP who said the “service economy” BS was one of the first red flags. Then, we morphed into the “finance economy” which made even less sense. We were on a downward trajectory many years ago (I believe 1982 was the genesis of our problems, as credit began its massive expansion).
BTW, I know a number of people who work for govt, and can assure you they are NOT safe. Right now, there are a number of hiring freezes, pay freezes and lots of discussions about possible lay-offs. Some cities may scale back fire and police services as well (closing stations or rotating skeleton crews from station to station, downsizing crews, among other things).
NOBODY is safe, and no investment is safe, IMHO. We are all gamblers at this point, hoping that we can just tread water until this thing collapses and we can rebuild from scratch.
You are right, SDR. What the govt is now doing will absolutely make this recession/depression worse. No rules, no plan, everyone in power seems to be flying by the seat of their pants right now. Very scary, indeed!
November 12, 2008 at 1:09 AM #303486CA renterParticipantSDR,
I was one of the people who said “bring it on” some time ago. Like the OP said, we were not wishing for it, just anticipating it, and hoping to get it over with as quickly as possible.
It’s not that I want to see anyone suffer — not at all — but that we need to get beyond this debt bubble and finally land in a place where people will be rewarded for WORK (not gambling, schmoozing, and financial alchemy).
None of this had to happen, and I was writing letters to politicians and law enforcement agencies years ago, trying to do my part to stop the insane lending practices that brought us here.
Agree with the OP who said the “service economy” BS was one of the first red flags. Then, we morphed into the “finance economy” which made even less sense. We were on a downward trajectory many years ago (I believe 1982 was the genesis of our problems, as credit began its massive expansion).
BTW, I know a number of people who work for govt, and can assure you they are NOT safe. Right now, there are a number of hiring freezes, pay freezes and lots of discussions about possible lay-offs. Some cities may scale back fire and police services as well (closing stations or rotating skeleton crews from station to station, downsizing crews, among other things).
NOBODY is safe, and no investment is safe, IMHO. We are all gamblers at this point, hoping that we can just tread water until this thing collapses and we can rebuild from scratch.
You are right, SDR. What the govt is now doing will absolutely make this recession/depression worse. No rules, no plan, everyone in power seems to be flying by the seat of their pants right now. Very scary, indeed!
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