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August 21, 2006 at 12:22 AM #32534August 21, 2006 at 10:32 AM #32555AnonymousGuest
bgates, you’re right on all the points, and stick by your guns. Good job using data, and not getting emotional.
It’s great that there are differences of opinion when it comes to business; it provides an opportunity to make money (e.g., are homes prices going to fall big-time or not). It’s painful when folks have widely divergent views on foreign affairs, because lack of early, forceful action causes greater suffering later.
“War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself” — John Stuart Mill
August 21, 2006 at 5:27 PM #32590sdrebearParticipant“bgates” quote – “I won’t embarass you by asking for evidence that anyone in the administration claimed any citizen was either for the war or a terrorist – wait, yes I will, put up or shut up”
Well, you didn’t ask me to “put up or shut up” (very Bush-like of you by the way) but here it is anyway.
You are either with us or against us
Admittedly, Bush wasn’t speaking directly to a “citizen” as you requested, but he did say the words and directed it to every government in the world (more or less). These governments, being the embodiment of it’s country’s citizens, is as close as I need for your silly “challenge”.
As a citizen, if you didn’t get the message loud and clear from statements like this, you were totally brain dead. This type of “cowboy” rhetoric resounded all over our country and was part of quite an impressive mental game to squash resistance to war both domestically and abroad.
August 21, 2006 at 8:30 PM #32597PerryChaseParticipantThis is the first year that Bush has been in Washington (and not on vacation) in late August (ABC News)
Only 35% of the public now supports the war. Finally the American people are coming to their senses after being bullied into compliance.
Now that the war is going awry, the GOP is turning to immigration as a wedge issue (Washington Post).
August 21, 2006 at 8:36 PM #32598AnonymousGuestbecause he’s screwing our nation not Monica Lewenski.
August 22, 2006 at 7:18 AM #32622carlislematthewParticipantCarlislemattew’s post was a typical last word statement. It was a jab directed at bgates personally because carlislematthew has failed to refute bgates arguments.
PD, I’m not interested in refuting his posts, or anyone else’s on this topic. I was simply pointing out the absurdity in bgate’s post. I don’t *have* to address any of his other points in order to address the rediculous nature of the whole discussion.
I would also add that your empty “bgates is right!” sheep-like statements are almost sickening.
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