Ot. I don’t feel thankful

[outtamojo]

Incredible post, destined to become a classic.

[scaredyclassic]

feels about right.

[FlyerInHi]

Scaredy, that is such an awesome post. I want to join your church!

[flyer]

Read a recent Pew study citing that while fewer and fewer people participate in religion per se, more and more believe in afterlife. The authors noted, that might be part of the growing entitlement mentality that you can get something for nothing.

One thing is certain. Everyone will take a last breath on earth. After that, some believe they know what lies ahead, others don’t–to each his or her
own–and enjoy the magnificence of our current abode.

[scaredyclassic]

I disagree that we are breathing. there’s no actual breathing going on. just a series of data that to us feels as if we are breathing. there is no last breath, because there is no breath.

Not Of This World, baby

[scaredyclassic]

Job, suffering unjustly after G-d makes a bet with the devil, asks Him, “what the fuck man?”

the creator replies…

Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind and said:

2 “Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge?
3 Dress for action[a] like a man;
I will question you, and you make it known to me.

4 “Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?
Tell me, if you have understanding.
5 Who determined its measurements—surely you know!
Or who stretched the line upon it?
6 On what were its bases sunk,
or who laid its cornerstone,
7 when the morning stars sang together
and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

8 “Or who shut in the sea with doors
when it burst out from the womb,
9 when I made clouds its garment
and thick darkness its swaddling band,
10 and prescribed limits for it
and set bars and doors,
11 and said, ‘Thus far shall you come, and no farther,
and here shall your proud waves be stayed’?

12 “Have you commanded the morning since your days began,
and caused the dawn to know its place,
13 that it might take hold of the skirts of the earth,
and the wicked be shaken out of it?
14 It is changed like clay under the seal,
and its features stand out like a garment.
15 From the wicked their light is withheld,
and their uplifted arm is broken.

16 “Have you entered into the springs of the sea,
or walked in the recesses of the deep?
17 Have the gates of death been revealed to you,
or have you seen the gates of deep darkness?
18 Have you comprehended the expanse of the earth?
Declare, if you know all this.

19 “Where is the way to the dwelling of light,
and where is the place of darkness,
20 that you may take it to its territory
and that you may discern the paths to its home?
21 You know, for you were born then,
and the number of your days is great!

22 “Have you entered the storehouses of the snow,
or have you seen the storehouses of the hail,
23 which I have reserved for the time of trouble,
for the day of battle and war?
24 What is the way to the place where the light is distributed,
or where the east wind is scattered upon the earth?

25 “Who has cleft a channel for the torrents of rain
and a way for the thunderbolt,
26 to bring rain on a land where no man is,
on the desert in which there is no man,
27 to satisfy the waste and desolate land,
and to make the ground sprout with grass?

28 “Has the rain a father,
or who has begotten the drops of dew?
29 From whose womb did the ice come forth,
and who has given birth to the frost of heaven?
30 The waters become hard like stone,
and the face of the deep is frozen.

31 “Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades
or loose the cords of Orion?
32 Can you lead forth the Mazzaroth[b] in their season,
or can you guide the Bear with its children?
33 Do you know the ordinances of the heavens?
Can you establish their rule on the earth?

34 “Can you lift up your voice to the clouds,
that a flood of waters may cover you?
35 Can you send forth lightnings, that they may go
and say to you, ‘Here we are’?
36 Who has put wisdom in the inward parts[c]
or given understanding to the mind?[d]
37 Who can number the clouds by wisdom?
Or who can tilt the waterskins of the heavens,
38 when the dust runs into a mass
and the clods stick fast together?

39 “Can you hunt the prey for the lion,
or satisfy the appetite of the young lions,
40 when they crouch in their dens
or lie in wait in their thicket?
41 Who provides for the raven its prey,
when its young ones cry to God for help,
and wander about for lack of food.

[scaredyclassic]

scaredy cried to G.O.D. after a bad bit of luck…

G.O.D. replied

where were you during the ages I spent coding? STFU.

[scaredyclassic]

the book of Job, my favorite, would be included in the G.O.D. canon. basically it’s a video game bet between two gamers G.o.D. and the devil.

it fits perfectly, except for Him talking to Job. that seems,to break the rules of the game.

[scaredyclassic]

mere coincidence?

a file is “SAVED”.

Jesus “saves” souls.

the afterlife is your file saved?

[flyer]

Could be the next “Theory of Everything”–or the next great video game. Perhaps both.

[scaredyclassic]

why would we expect any religion to satisfyingly explain what we think is,reality for thousands of years?

Mormonism, digitalism.

different times call for different explanations.

[flyer]

“Different times call for different explanations.” That’s exactly why my wife invests in films she believes in. Well put.

[zk]

[quote=flyer]”Different times call for different explanations.” That’s exactly why my wife invests in films she believes in. Well put.[/quote]

Fascinating.

Is that also exactly why you believe in your particular god?

[zk]

[quote=njtosd]
Just for the record, there are many very logical people in the world who believe that there is something more to life. For instance, Francis Collins, NIH director, director of the human genome project, current Christian and former atheist.[/quote]

Well, it depends on what you mean by “more to life,” but if you mean that they believe in something that they have no logical reason to believe in, then those people are, by definition, not logical (regarding their belief that there is “more to life”).

[scaredyclassic]

it is not illogical to believe that we are a highly complex video simulation.

the existence of anything at all is too mysterious for logic

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