How is CV schools compared with Del Sur?

[bpnbpn]

How is Carmel Valley schools compared with Del Sur schools? A part of carmel valley goes to Del Mar Unified School and another part goes to Solona Beach Unified school district for elementary level. Then middle and high school are in San Diguito district.

I know these schools are top notch but how is the workload for the kids? Are they very demanding that push the kids too much? I like my kid to go to the best school but at the same time do not want him to get stressed out by reading 2000 page book in his early grades.

How is it compared with Del Sur Elementary school?

BTW middle school and high school for Del Sur are Oak Valley and Del Norte respectively.

[jameswenn]

The big difference I see when it comes to public schools is the number of English learners, that naturally bring scores down. So if your kid knows English, they’re going to be fine.

Other than that, the only thing that matters is school yard violence, but that’s going to be hard to find, but it’s rampant in public schools.

[4slive]

I think API (score) wise, it mainly depends on the asian student percentage, the higher the better. You can see asian family cramped in Pacific Highland Ranch, and all new communities south of 56 in CV, so it’s no wonder why CV school doing good. Similarly, if you look at 4S an Del Sur, more and more asian families moving in, it’ll not only stablize the housing price but also boosting the school reputation IMHO.

[jameswenn]

[quote=4slive]I think API (score) wise, it mainly depends on the asian student percentage, the higher the better. You can see asian family cramped in Pacific Highland Ranch, and all new communities south of 56 in CV, so it’s no wonder why CV school doing good. Similarly, if you look at 4S an Del Sur, more and more asian families moving in, it’ll not only stablize the housing price but also boosting the school reputation IMHO.[/quote]

I think Chinese families tend to gravitate to areas with high scores, I don’t think it’s all Asian groups that you’re looking for.

[sdrealtor]

It’s demographics beyond ethnicity. My kids school has o e of the highest API scores in the county and Asians make up a pretty low percentage of the students. The kids all grow up in households with highly educated parents hence they continue the cycle. Would love to say its the teachers but I don’t think so.

[4slive]

But in 92130, 92129, 92127. The high school API are largely contributed from asian (Chinese, Indian and Korean) students’ excellent academy. Of course a large percentage of their parents are new immigrants with high education background and high pay also.

[lookingagain]

I must agree with sdrealtor here. My daughter is in the public school system in CV and I am amazed by just how bright and hardworking all the children are. It has nothing to do with ethnicity and everything to do with the fact that the children all come from highly educated households with very involved parents.

[an]

[quote=sdrealtor]It’s demographics beyond ethnicity. My kids school has o e of the highest API scores in the county and Asians make up a pretty low percentage of the students. The kids all grow up in households with highly educated parents hence they continue the cycle. Would love to say its the teachers but I don’t think so.[/quote]
I think it’s a combination of both demographics and ethnicity. You can’t dismiss the fact that most of the time, API score for Asians is higher than Whites in the same school. If the Asian population ins your kids’ school is larger, I’m sure their schools’ overall API score would be higher than it is today.

Another example to prove my point would be Torrey Pines High vs Mira Mesa High. Demographic wise, Torrey Pines students comes from much richer families and their parents tend to be very educated. Mira Mesa on the other hand tend to be closer to middle class community. Here are their API scores:

Torrey Pines High:
Asian – 955
Hispanic or Latino – 744
White – 871

Mira Mesa High:
Asian – 895
Hispanic or Latino – 781
White – 869

As you can see, the white students in Mira Mesa only trail the white students in Torrey Pine by 2 points. The Hispanic in Mira Mesa actually surpasses the Hispanic in Torrey Pines by 37 points. However, the Asian in Torrey Pines surpasses the Asian in Mira Mesa by 60 points. If Mira Mesa have the same ethnicity make up as Torrey Pines, their API score would be very similar (870ish for Mira Mesa and 881 for Torrey Pines). However, since Mira Mesa have a much larger Hispanic population than Torrey Pines, it’s total API score is in the 840s vs 870s if you take out the API scores from the Hispanic group.

[briansd1]

[quote=AN]
I think it’s a combination of both demographics and ethnicity. You can’t dismiss the fact that most of the time, API score for Asians is higher than Whites in the same school. [/quote]

Interesting.

The stats do show that Asians consistently outscore the other groups. Numbers don’t lie, or do they?

Interesting article on college admissions.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-02/harvard-targeted-in-u-s-asian-american-discrimination-probe.html

[4slive]

The asian student population is the key factor of why Canyon Crest Academy and Westview High API score ramping up so quickly in last several years. Next, we’ll see the same happens on Del Norte High. For real estate, usually more asian family means more stable house price and good school.

Also another interesting observation is the asian family likes new communities even high MR associated. In PHR, THR, Del Sur, 4S Ranch, 50-80% buyers are asian families since 2008. So there is no guess the schools around those communities will go up.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=briansd1] . . . The stats do show that Asians consistently outscore the other groups. Numbers don’t lie, or do they?

Interesting article on college admissions.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-02/harvard-targeted-in-u-s-asian-american-discrimination-probe.html
[/quote]

…Budget-strapped state schools such as the University of California at San Diego are reducing enrollment of Asian-Americans to make room for international students from China and elsewhere who pay almost twice the tuition of in-state residents, Bloomberg News reported Dec. 28….

This is only the beginning. When all the Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans who will soon be bumped from the military and given Veteran’s preference (and benefits) in the UC system, there will be few slots left for incoming freshman who are graduates of CA high schools and lifelong residents no matter WHAT their GPA and SAT scores.

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1][quote=AN]
I think it’s a combination of both demographics and ethnicity. You can’t dismiss the fact that most of the time, API score for Asians is higher than Whites in the same school. [/quote]

Interesting.

The stats do show that Asians consistently outscore the other groups. Numbers don’t lie, or do they?

Interesting article on college admissions.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-02/harvard-targeted-in-u-s-asian-american-discrimination-probe.html%5B/quote%5D

Is this really a surprise to you Brian? It’s been going on for some time, even back when I went to an ivy league back in 92…It was ridiculous seeing what was admitted at times… This has been going on for some time. Above-average (yet not exceedingly outstanding) Asian-american students always get screwed. I’m telling you, the best way to avoid this altogether is before entering high school, change the last name and don’t answer the question about race. I kid you not. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying asian kids are smarter.. I’m not…… But there is this hidden stupid admissions quota, whether universities want to admit it or not.

See if colleges/university really where interested in equality, they wouldn’t be asking you what race are you, would they?

[an]

[quote=flu]Is this really a surprise to you Brian? It’s been going on for some time, even back when I went to an ivy league back in 92…It was ridiculous seeing what was admitted at times… This has been going on for some time. Above-average (yet not exceedingly outstanding) Asian-american students always get screwed. I’m telling you, the best way to avoid this altogether is before entering high school, change the last name and don’t answer the question about race. I kid you not. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying asian kids are smarter.. I’m not…… But there is this hidden stupid admissions quota, whether universities want to admit it or not.

See if colleges/university really where interested in equality, they wouldn’t be asking you what race are you, would they?[/quote]
It’s only surprising to those who are not Asian. It was much more overtly displayed at the UC when I went there because of affirmative action. Luckily that got removed. That’s why today, 40+ % of the students at the top 3-4 UCs are Asian. 50% at UCSD, 40% at UCLA, and 42% at Berkeley.

I agree with you that to completely remove yourself from discrimination, just change your name. If your kids are born here, give them American names. There’s no way anyone can tell my kids are Asian from their name. It always bug the hell out of me when they say they need more minorities at the Universities. Somehow, to those people, Asian are not considered as minority.

[briansd1]

Actually, I’m not surprised at all.
The Asians I know work value education more than other groups.

I’m kind of an adherent of Tiger parenting. It works. It’s actually not much different from a strict Catholic education where eduction is the primary goal and religion is only secondary.

[all]

[quote=AN]

Torrey Pines High:
Asian – 955
Hispanic or Latino – 744
White – 871

Mira Mesa High:
Asian – 895
Hispanic or Latino – 781
White – 869
[/quote]

Looking at this alone it can’t be ethnicity alone since MM Asians are clearly scoring lower than Torrey Pines Asians.

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