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January 17, 2008 at 10:10 PM #138111January 18, 2008 at 7:35 AM #137941scaredyclassicParticipant
people in short funds are happy. dxrsx. bearx.
it may not turn around ina month or a year. the stock market could go flat for a very very very very long time. most people i talk to assume any downturn is a month or a year. that makes me think, when there is a real downturn, which many investors haven’t seen in their middle-aged lifespan, it’s be more like 10-15 years. but probably this time around it be more like a month or a year.
kinda like housing everyone assumes ya gotta make money if ya hang in there.
maybe.
but maybe not. maybe it’s only if ya live long enough.
Drink Heavily.
January 18, 2008 at 7:35 AM #138149scaredyclassicParticipantpeople in short funds are happy. dxrsx. bearx.
it may not turn around ina month or a year. the stock market could go flat for a very very very very long time. most people i talk to assume any downturn is a month or a year. that makes me think, when there is a real downturn, which many investors haven’t seen in their middle-aged lifespan, it’s be more like 10-15 years. but probably this time around it be more like a month or a year.
kinda like housing everyone assumes ya gotta make money if ya hang in there.
maybe.
but maybe not. maybe it’s only if ya live long enough.
Drink Heavily.
January 18, 2008 at 7:35 AM #138176scaredyclassicParticipantpeople in short funds are happy. dxrsx. bearx.
it may not turn around ina month or a year. the stock market could go flat for a very very very very long time. most people i talk to assume any downturn is a month or a year. that makes me think, when there is a real downturn, which many investors haven’t seen in their middle-aged lifespan, it’s be more like 10-15 years. but probably this time around it be more like a month or a year.
kinda like housing everyone assumes ya gotta make money if ya hang in there.
maybe.
but maybe not. maybe it’s only if ya live long enough.
Drink Heavily.
January 18, 2008 at 7:35 AM #138203scaredyclassicParticipantpeople in short funds are happy. dxrsx. bearx.
it may not turn around ina month or a year. the stock market could go flat for a very very very very long time. most people i talk to assume any downturn is a month or a year. that makes me think, when there is a real downturn, which many investors haven’t seen in their middle-aged lifespan, it’s be more like 10-15 years. but probably this time around it be more like a month or a year.
kinda like housing everyone assumes ya gotta make money if ya hang in there.
maybe.
but maybe not. maybe it’s only if ya live long enough.
Drink Heavily.
January 18, 2008 at 7:35 AM #138246scaredyclassicParticipantpeople in short funds are happy. dxrsx. bearx.
it may not turn around ina month or a year. the stock market could go flat for a very very very very long time. most people i talk to assume any downturn is a month or a year. that makes me think, when there is a real downturn, which many investors haven’t seen in their middle-aged lifespan, it’s be more like 10-15 years. but probably this time around it be more like a month or a year.
kinda like housing everyone assumes ya gotta make money if ya hang in there.
maybe.
but maybe not. maybe it’s only if ya live long enough.
Drink Heavily.
January 18, 2008 at 7:55 AM #137947RaybyrnesParticipantI would say that over the next 3 to 5 years would present someone wiht good skill sets to begin buying not depreciating stocks and begin writing options contracts to improve yield.
Pretty professional skill set but for those that can do it effectively they probably will eke out market beating retunrs in a flat market.
January 18, 2008 at 7:55 AM #138154RaybyrnesParticipantI would say that over the next 3 to 5 years would present someone wiht good skill sets to begin buying not depreciating stocks and begin writing options contracts to improve yield.
Pretty professional skill set but for those that can do it effectively they probably will eke out market beating retunrs in a flat market.
January 18, 2008 at 7:55 AM #138181RaybyrnesParticipantI would say that over the next 3 to 5 years would present someone wiht good skill sets to begin buying not depreciating stocks and begin writing options contracts to improve yield.
Pretty professional skill set but for those that can do it effectively they probably will eke out market beating retunrs in a flat market.
January 18, 2008 at 7:55 AM #138208RaybyrnesParticipantI would say that over the next 3 to 5 years would present someone wiht good skill sets to begin buying not depreciating stocks and begin writing options contracts to improve yield.
Pretty professional skill set but for those that can do it effectively they probably will eke out market beating retunrs in a flat market.
January 18, 2008 at 7:55 AM #138251RaybyrnesParticipantI would say that over the next 3 to 5 years would present someone wiht good skill sets to begin buying not depreciating stocks and begin writing options contracts to improve yield.
Pretty professional skill set but for those that can do it effectively they probably will eke out market beating retunrs in a flat market.
January 18, 2008 at 8:26 AM #137956LA_RenterParticipantI did the same thing as Raybyrnes, I moved the majority of my 401K into cash and bond funds to lock in gains. My asset allocation is going right back into the market S&P type index funds, energy and natural resources, company stock and International. I played the SDS last year and got my hat handed to me, bucked up and went back in Dec, glad I did I guess I was year too early last year.
What are people’s thoughts on a big scale capitulation in the near future. IMO if one were to happen it would be triggered by the current turmoil in the monolines. MBI and ABK are basically being priced for BK (why didn’t I get those puts??). This counterparty risk thing is pretty significant. My gut is telling me we haven’t seen the real fireworks here.
January 18, 2008 at 8:26 AM #138164LA_RenterParticipantI did the same thing as Raybyrnes, I moved the majority of my 401K into cash and bond funds to lock in gains. My asset allocation is going right back into the market S&P type index funds, energy and natural resources, company stock and International. I played the SDS last year and got my hat handed to me, bucked up and went back in Dec, glad I did I guess I was year too early last year.
What are people’s thoughts on a big scale capitulation in the near future. IMO if one were to happen it would be triggered by the current turmoil in the monolines. MBI and ABK are basically being priced for BK (why didn’t I get those puts??). This counterparty risk thing is pretty significant. My gut is telling me we haven’t seen the real fireworks here.
January 18, 2008 at 8:26 AM #138191LA_RenterParticipantI did the same thing as Raybyrnes, I moved the majority of my 401K into cash and bond funds to lock in gains. My asset allocation is going right back into the market S&P type index funds, energy and natural resources, company stock and International. I played the SDS last year and got my hat handed to me, bucked up and went back in Dec, glad I did I guess I was year too early last year.
What are people’s thoughts on a big scale capitulation in the near future. IMO if one were to happen it would be triggered by the current turmoil in the monolines. MBI and ABK are basically being priced for BK (why didn’t I get those puts??). This counterparty risk thing is pretty significant. My gut is telling me we haven’t seen the real fireworks here.
January 18, 2008 at 8:26 AM #138218LA_RenterParticipantI did the same thing as Raybyrnes, I moved the majority of my 401K into cash and bond funds to lock in gains. My asset allocation is going right back into the market S&P type index funds, energy and natural resources, company stock and International. I played the SDS last year and got my hat handed to me, bucked up and went back in Dec, glad I did I guess I was year too early last year.
What are people’s thoughts on a big scale capitulation in the near future. IMO if one were to happen it would be triggered by the current turmoil in the monolines. MBI and ABK are basically being priced for BK (why didn’t I get those puts??). This counterparty risk thing is pretty significant. My gut is telling me we haven’t seen the real fireworks here.
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