Corona Virus vs. The Bill of Rights

[The-Shoveler]

Even Newsom is now saying herd immunity is at least part of Goal.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=The-Shoveler]Even Newsom is now saying herd immunity is at least part of Goal.[/quote]

Herd immunity means a lot of dead people 1st.

[phaster]

[quote=outtamojo]Trump’s army

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/demonstrators-gather-in-huntington-beach-to-protest-states-stay-at-home-order-and-defying-social-distancing-rules/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

All youse better fill out your “do not resuscitate” papers to make things easier on all of us.[/quote]

seems the american bar association agrees that STATES DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO QUARANTINE POPULATIONS

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/suits-over-coronavirus-quarantines-unlikely-to-succeed-experts-say

sigh,… the idea of lawsuits over covid-19 social distancing, is dumb IMHO!!!

as I see things its akin to a lawsuit that says firefighters have no business telling people to get out of an area where there are conflagrations

[quote]
California’s governor declares statewide emergency over wildfires as mass evacuation continues

SANTA ROSA, Calif. — California’s governor declared a statewide emergency Sunday as hurricane-force wind fueled wildfires across Sonoma County and prompted mass evacuations in communities to the Pacific Ocean.

Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) pledged to deploy “every resource available” as authorities fought blazes on both ends of the state and weather increased the danger. Despite the efforts of several thousand firefighters and volunteers, and millions of people enduring forced blackouts to minimize the risk of new blazes,…

…The mandatory evacuations affected nearly 180,000 people. About 54,000 acres already have been torched, 94 structures destroyed and State Route 128 turned into a hellish gantlet. And 80,000 structures remain under threat.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/10/27/fierce-winds-sweep-across-california-worsening-wildfires-prompting-new-evacuations/
[/quote]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_GRAl7ga7c

just as firefighters tell people an area is unsafe where an inferno is raging, people should listen to medical experts who have years of experience fighting off infections,… the idea in both cases to to save lives

bottom line,… its best to ignore quack advice from a TV reality celebrity who found a political following

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6f3TOwv0NA

[outtamojo]

Saw Blue Lives Matter trending on Twitter this morning- footage of protesters getting in law officer’s faces and even pushing them. Time to break out the tear gas police dogs cattle prods and invite those people to leave the country if they don’t like it here.

[spdrun]

The article about “herd immunity” is oversimplifying about herd immunity being “when things start to slow down.” Even 20% immunity will likely slow down an epidemic … herd immunity is when growth is linear (vs exponential), ASSUMING NO OTHER MEASURES. The point is that, as more people gain immunity, the measures required to keep an epidemic in check gradually decrease.

“Herd immunity” needing a majority of the population also makes other assumptions, like that everyone is equally susceptible. Perhaps 50% of people can’t catch COVID due to some genetic difference or due to cross-immunity with other coronaviridae. This would explain the low household secondary attack rate — only about 15-25% of people sharing a home with a COVID case contract it themselves.

[FlyerInHi]

Interesting article on Islamic face covering.
Targeting muslim women, some countries have banned face covering. And in USA, people have argued that face covering is unsafe and unamerican.
What’s the difference between Islamic face cover and what we see today? That’s making me think….

We are all niqabis now: Coronavirus masks reveal hypocrisy of face covering bans
https://theconversation.com/we-are-all-niqabis-now-coronavirus-masks-reveal-hypocrisy-of-face-covering-bans-136030

[FlyerInHi]

The churches in Kentucky won a legal victory.
I don’t support the church gatherings, but the law is the law.. Let them gather if they wish.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/09/kentucky-court-halts-ban-on-church-gatherings-245960

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=FlyerInHi]The churches in Kentucky won a legal victory.
I don’t support the church gatherings, but the law is the law.. Let them gather if they wish.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/09/kentucky-court-halts-ban-on-church-gatherings-245960%5B/quote%5D

Morons.

[an]

[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=FlyerInHi]The churches in Kentucky won a legal victory.
I don’t support the church gatherings, but the law is the law.. Let them gather if they wish.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/09/kentucky-court-halts-ban-on-church-gatherings-245960%5B/quote%5D

Morons.[/quote]
Darwin

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=an][quote=scaredyclassic][quote=FlyerInHi]The churches in Kentucky won a legal victory.
I don’t support the church gatherings, but the law is the law.. Let them gather if they wish.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/09/kentucky-court-halts-ban-on-church-gatherings-245960
[/quote]

Morons.[/quote]
Darwin[/quote]

If Darwin is the way to go, then why have lockdowns at all?

[outtamojo]

Yes and why should religion get special treatment? If souplantation can accommodate health guidelines shouldn’t they be able to open too?

[scaredyclassic]

Constitution.

The Buddhists down at deerpark shut down WAYYY ahead of the curve. I recall being slightly incredulous and irtitated.

But they’re smart. Makes me like them more.

Because Buddhists arent stuck to kind of dumb doctrine and ate more practice than belief, they are more flexible to new data. It’s ok the world is old because they cleverly didnt commit to a provably wrong timeline.

Judaism, christianity, ugh.

[svelte]

[quote=sdduuuude][quote=gogogosandiego]Tomorrow in KY when idiots go to Church and don’t maintain social distancing etc their license plate # will be written down and they will be required to self quarantine for 14 days. [/quote]

That actually makes perfect sense to me.

Arresting the minister does not…[/quote]

Ruled legal back in 1918 by an appellate court:

[img_assist|nid=27080|title=1918 Appellate Court Ruling on Spanish Flu Restrictions|desc=|link=node|align=center|width=255|height=600]

[FlyerInHi]

The courts seem to be siding with the protesters.
One problem that I have with the executive stay at home orders is that the full text of the orders are not widely disseminated. If we are a country laws, then we should be fully transparent.

[utcsox]

[quote=outtamojo]Yes and why should religion get special treatment? If souplantation can accommodate health guidelines shouldn’t they be able to open too?[/quote]

One thing we do know is that the virus has very little regard of our precious religious freedom. Sure you can pack as many conservative justices in as many courts as you can, but the virus is not going to respect your rights to workship without the fear of contracting the deadly disease.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/17/us/covid-19-mothers-day-church-exposure/index.html

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