Car advice. New long commute

[Coronita]

[quote=svelte][quote=Coronita]I think the other thing about leases versus buying is that if you buy a $90k car, you’re going to owe sales tax on $90k.

I believe if you lease the car, you’re going to be paying sales tax on your down payment and each monthly payment you make on the lease… I think…[/quote]

I believe that is correct.

It is a plus in the leasing column.[/quote]

For EV, if you lease, I believe you still get the federal and state EV tax credit. I remember someone at the Audi dealer was trying to get me to lease the etron and was telling me that if I lease, I would receive the entire $7000+ EV rebate and could use that to offset the down payment. Of course the EV rebate is going to change now…doesn’t apply to luxury vehicles anymore and not available to people above an agi limit

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=barnaby33]A Chevy Bolt could be a great option depending on commute length and your ability to charge it each day. Large cars are a waste of energy and resources, but they are comfy.
Josh[/quote]

This does look inexpensive for the car.

[svelte]

A big consideration for me will be getting an EV that can be used as battery backup for the house, so I don’t have to buy a power wall or equivalent.

I’ve heard that Tesla voids your warranty if you use it in that manner.

[ocrenter]

I would vote for the Chevy Bolt EUV.

get it after first of the year for the federal tax rebate.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=ocrenter]I would vote for the Chevy Bolt EUV.

get it after first of the year for the federal tax rebate.[/quote]

I think that might be the most economical route. I’m going to drive my old car a bit longer and see if things loosen up supply wise in 2023.

Thinking about the cost of car leasing…$500 to $1000 a month for 10k miles a year, 850 miles a month a buck a mile or so….really makes one think about how costly it is to drive a new car. EBikes are quite a bit cheaper, even with the very high cost of bicycle tires…

[spdrun]

I would vote for the Chevy Bolt EUV.

What’s wrong with the regular Bolt hatchback? Why does a commuter need the bloatbarge version?

[scaredyclassic]

It’s been so long since I’ve had an accident. Maybe my number is coming up. Lease a suburban.

[spdrun]

Nah, if you want to be REALLY safe, get a Peterbilt or UniMog. Suburbans aren’t safe enough.

[ocrenter]

[quote=spdrun]

I would vote for the Chevy Bolt EUV.

What’s wrong with the regular Bolt hatchback? Why does a commuter need the bloatbarge version?[/quote]

Because the bloatbarge version has more utility outside of commute life. Plus the price is not that different and the range is essentially the same. It is well worth that couple thousand extra for the bloatbarge version.

[spdrun]

Personally, I like cars that are nice and low, that you sit down in, not step up. Ray Loewy had it right. If I wanted to sit high up, I’d get a jerb driving a UPS truck.

Sadly, it’s becoming hard to even get a real car here in the US, some makers only offer SUVs and CUVs with the general proportions of maggots or grubs. I want something with some style and class (even if it’s old), not another fucking burb box.

I’d make gentle love to a porcupine to be able to get some of the small Chinese and Euro market electric cars here in the US. So. Jealous.

[scaredyclassic]

Also, SUVs are designed to crush and kill by going over cyclists, while cars have a chance of the pedestrian cyclist not getting crushed beneath. Maybe the mazda3. That seems like a reasonable vehicle I could just pay cash for and not feel like I spent a ton of money.

[spdrun]

They don’t have to be designed that way, but many are. The problem is that we don’t have pedestrian safety standards. Our safety standards are stricter on how the car protects its own occupants, laxer on how it interacts with other road users.

Does Mazda3 have a decent hybrid system?

[scaredyclassic]

Just gas. But I’m ok with that

[gzz]

I have had a Mazda CX-30 now for 15 months and really like it.

It was the largest SUV that still drove like a car.

The CX-5 is bigger inside but handles worse and hasn’t been updated as recently. On the other hand, it is easier to buy they are in stock.

The nice thing about both of them is they have a standard 189hp engine. Other cheaper small SUVs are really slow.

Of they very cheap SUVs, my favorite was the Hyundai Venue.

[gzz]

Over thanksgiving in the midwest we rented a Ford Expedition XL, tied for the largest non-van passenger vehicle you can buy.

Even the third row was comfy.

The interior fit and finishing were very nice too.

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