Car advice. New long commute

[The-Shoveler]

I like the Prius, but I wish it had more room in the trunk like some Prius-V’s.

I like the Idea of not having to keep searching for a charging station or trying to schedule enough time to make sure I can get to my destinations.

If I had an EV I think I would want to have a second car hybrid probably just in case.

[Coronita]

[quote=The-Shoveler]I like the Prius, but I wish it had more room in the trunk like some Prius-V’s.

I like the Idea of not having to keep searching for a charging station or trying to schedule enough time to make sure I can get to my destinations.

If I had an EV I think I would want to have a second car hybrid probably just in case.[/quote]

I’m not convinced that EV is the end all solution … I think there will have to be some improvement to ICE engines and fuel.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=Coronita][quote=The-Shoveler]I like the Prius, but I wish it had more room in the trunk like some Prius-V’s.

I like the Idea of not having to keep searching for a charging station or trying to schedule enough time to make sure I can get to my destinations.

If I had an EV I think I would want to have a second car hybrid probably just in case.[/quote]

I’m not convinced that EV is the end all solution … I think there will have to be some improvement to ICE engines and fuel.[/quote]

I had bought a Prius prime plug in hybrid about 3 years ago. Got wrecked. Anyway it was awesome in terms of combination. Almost all my trips I used less than the 28 mile battery. Recharged overnight on regular plug. Sometimes I wouldn’t get gas for a month or two. Was only like 19k after tax credit. Wish I still had it. Didn’t replace at the time. For some reason insurance paid out 28k

I used to be gaming the battery and when I was almost home, I’d be as excited as world cup level like I’d make it home without using gas. Driving super efficiently. Praying to the Lord for fair tailwinds. My wife thought my drama over this was insufferably idiotic. If the engine kicked in a few blocks from home, I’d be cursing and banging the steering wheel like I’d lost 5k at blackjack

Kinda dumb I know. But I actually found it fun. I guess I’m hard to live with. Good thing I’m not in the dating pool.

[svelte]

[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=svelte]Another option? Buy a used Tesla…their value dropped 10% from Oct 2022 to Nov 2022. That’s enormous![/quote]

No way.[/quote]

I’m with you there. No Teslas in my future either.

[Myriad]

[quote=Coronita]
I’m not convinced that EV is the end all solution … I think there will have to be some improvement to ICE engines and fuel.[/quote]

That’s not likely. ICE there’s not much left in pure ICE vehicles to improve efficiency/emissions. Currently already near the realistic efficiency limits of thermodynamics of ICE.
However, at this stage in the battery dev cycle, moving every car to a hybrid is better than full EVs. You could get to higher global fuel economy and lower emissions faster than pure EVs. Especially when the EVs coming out are primarily luxury and heavy vehicles.
In 20 years, if solid state batteries are cheap enough, ICE will be obsolete.

[svelte]

I am really OK with the move to EV. Not crazy about it being forced upon people, but I can see it is about time for ICE to yield the floor – just thinking about how an internal combustion engine works – it is ancient technology.

The transition is not likely to be all that smooth and we’re already seeing that. So hang on for another 10 years or so as its gonna be a bumpy ride.

[Coronita]

[quote=svelte][quote=scaredyclassic][quote=svelte]Another option? Buy a used Tesla…their value dropped 10% from Oct 2022 to Nov 2022. That’s enormous![/quote]

No way.[/quote]

I’m with you there. No Teslas in my future either.[/quote]

Ditto

[sdrealtor]

[quote=The-Shoveler]I like the Prius, but I wish it had more room in the trunk like some Prius-V’s.

I like the Idea of not having to keep searching for a charging station or trying to schedule enough time to make sure I can get to my destinations.

If I had an EV I think I would want to have a second car hybrid probably just in case.[/quote]

I have an extra old ICE in the driveway and struggle to get it on the road even once a month to the coffee shop so it gets some use. My tesla is a joy. I take trips and use it daily. Finding charging stations, scheduling and any other concerns have never been an issue for me. I had more issues with getting gas. My car is full and ready to go every morning

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=Coronita][quote=svelte][quote=scaredyclassic][quote=svelte]Another option? Buy a used Tesla…their value dropped 10% from Oct 2022 to Nov 2022. That’s enormous![/quote]

No way.[/quote]

I’m with you there. No Teslas in my future either.[/quote]

Ditto[/quote]

I hate Elon musk so much a Tesla would have to cost $18k post credit to be considered.

[phaster]

[quote=spdrun]Looks pretty, but the rear windows seem like they’re claustrophobic as hell, and not good for visibility. What looks pretty from the outside isn’t always terribly functional.[/quote]

the shape of cars like the pious are due often times are due to the fact that designers want the vehicle to have the lowest aerodynamic drag as possible because low aerodynamic drag means lower engine power is needed to propel the vehicle forward for a given speed,…

12 Cars With Lowest Drag Force (With Pictures)

said another way lower engine power requirements mean increased gas mileage

outside visibility is another engineering design consideration, which is why the older exterior design of the pious has a rear window, that made the overall appearance “functionally ugly” (but helped the drivers “situational awareness”)

https://priuschat.com/threads/how-long-did-it-take-for-you-to-get-used-to-the-split-rear-window.113958/

since consumers are vein,… sex appeal (over function) is a trade off many are willing to make

With the new sex appeal of the pious, pretty certain the its going to be very popular w/ consumers,… even though the 2023 pious redesign isn’t going to be as functional or reliable (I mention this because the outgoing design of the pious used NIMH batteries which are more robust than Lithium-Ion batteries which are more energy dense)

[spdrun]

And American consumers are the very worst as far as vanity. Spoiled brats.

[Hobie]

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[svelte]

Looks like it hasn’t been mentioned yet so I’ll do it now:

Don’t buy through Carvana. That company appears to be about to go under and you don’t want to be in the middle of a transaction when that happens.

Oh, and they seem to have a problem supplying the vehicle title to customers…

[gzz]

My advice is to wait 6 months to buy a car. The car market is experiencing extreme unprecedented deflation right now.

Carvana is in major financial distress and may go from a huge net buyer of late model cars to mass liquidation.

Lots of people underwater on subprime auto loans too, 20% and more APR.

Unlike with homes, you can let your car loan default and immediately get another car loan. Subprime auto loans are less regulated than mortgages.

[spdrun]

Carvana — good riddance … the Wall Street funded used car dealers were buying up all of the used inventory, then reselling at inflated prices. Let them burn in Hell and go into liquidation.

Companies like Carvana and Carmax basically combine all of the scumbaggery of Wall Street and Curbstone Joe’s Used Car Lot in one ugly package.

They get glowing (like the glow of Cerenkov Radiation) reviews on Reddit, from sellers. Pity the poor buyers of the cars mentioned below.

https://old.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/zo902s/carvana_has_started_liquidation_process_selling/

—
“Yeah they gave me way more than my car was worth. Thing had a cracked windshield, dents, engine knocked, high mileage and they priced it like it was brand new.

No clue how they made any money, if they ever did.”

—
“I sold a 2019 Mazda6 to them about a year and a half ago. I purchased it for just under 20k and sold it for 23k. The guy who picked it up showed up with the check and handed it to me no questions asked.

I asked if he wanted me to open up the car, pop the hood, or anything. He said no. And he towed it away.

I deposited the check right away and never heard from them again.

Strange experience.”

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