4 closure Ranch errr scratch that “Fire proof” Ranch = new nickname for 4S Ranch

[Duck]

Don’t know much about 4S except that they have some great soccer fields. I looked through the MLS to get some kind of feel for it since this drew so many responses and here’s my off the cuff takes:

1) Wow, the tax rate is very high. Almost 2% of the sales price.

2) Looking at the first 30 or so listngs about half are short sales, and quite a few others are RE agents selling their homes or Hovnanian closing out there homes. Looks like there was a lot of specualtion and a lot of 100% loans in 2003-2005. Maybe the “S” is for short sale.

3) Of the homes that are not short sales, just about everyone has “motivated” or “Owner needs to sell” in the confidential remarks. Those are some sharp agents helpng their sellers get top dollar. Geesh!

4) There are some decent size lots, but I noticed very few pools for a community that gets very hot for a good part of the year. Could this be because folks spent so much on the huse they didn’t have money left over for improvements? I know they have a community pool, but if you like to spend time in the water those get very tired after a while. Load up the kids, car, stuff, etc.

[bsrsharma]

These firestorms are creating new business opportunity for private sector fire prevention services. It makes sense for upscale homeowners to subscribe to these services. Over time, these will become affordable to others. Kind of like OnStar service for cars.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-richfire26oct26,0,3352683.story?page=1&coll=la-home-center

[bsrsharma]

These firestorms are creating new business opportunity for private sector fire prevention services. It makes sense for upscale homeowners to subscribe to these services. Over time, these will become affordable to others. Kind of like OnStar service for cars.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-richfire26oct26,0,3352683.story?page=1&coll=la-home-center

[bsrsharma]

These firestorms are creating new business opportunity for private sector fire prevention services. It makes sense for upscale homeowners to subscribe to these services. Over time, these will become affordable to others. Kind of like OnStar service for cars.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-richfire26oct26,0,3352683.story?page=1&coll=la-home-center

[San Diego Native]

San Diego natives have been saying “there is no life east
of I-5” for years. Sadly, watching this city sprawl to building on land on which homes should never have been built is proving to be catastrophic. Only time will tell to what degree.

I have always felt San Diego should have placed a moratorium on construction years ago–as Marin County did. Greed and stupidity in the construction industry have ruled this state for years, and now we are paying a price beyond comprehension.

[San Diego Native]

San Diego natives have been saying “there is no life east
of I-5” for years. Sadly, watching this city sprawl to building on land on which homes should never have been built is proving to be catastrophic. Only time will tell to what degree.

I have always felt San Diego should have placed a moratorium on construction years ago–as Marin County did. Greed and stupidity in the construction industry have ruled this state for years, and now we are paying a price beyond comprehension.

[San Diego Native]

San Diego natives have been saying “there is no life east
of I-5” for years. Sadly, watching this city sprawl to building on land on which homes should never have been built is proving to be catastrophic. Only time will tell to what degree.

I have always felt San Diego should have placed a moratorium on construction years ago–as Marin County did. Greed and stupidity in the construction industry have ruled this state for years, and now we are paying a price beyond comprehension.

[blackbox]

Anything that keeps more inventory in the market works for me. Go 4s!

[blackbox]

Anything that keeps more inventory in the market works for me. Go 4s!

[blackbox]

Anything that keeps more inventory in the market works for me. Go 4s!

[4Sbuyer2002]

New York Times message to world . . . if your going to move to San Diego . . . 4S Ranch is one of 5 communities with “safe homes” from fire which did not burn. Good press for 4S.

grateful owner . . . .

[4Sbuyer2002]

New York Times message to world . . . if your going to move to San Diego . . . 4S Ranch is one of 5 communities with “safe homes” from fire which did not burn. Good press for 4S.

grateful owner . . . .

[4Sbuyer2002]

New York Times message to world . . . if your going to move to San Diego . . . 4S Ranch is one of 5 communities with “safe homes” from fire which did not burn. Good press for 4S.

grateful owner . . . .

[raptorduck]

All this time that I have been looking for a house in Rancho Santa Fe, I thought I had figured out what are all the neighborhoods/subdivisions.

I thought 4S Ranch was a seperate town and did not know it was part of RSF. Should I be looking there as well? Why do people call it 4closure ranch if it is part of RSF and why all the animosity towards that part of RSF? I know high end homes also foreclose, but the suggestion I see is that there are lots of foreclosures in 4S Ranch. Why is that?

I assume these are the same types of houses I have seen in the rest of RSF and in my price range, and of course far beyond it, but I have not seen the kind of homes RSF has ($2-$30 million!) foreclose up here like subprime loan homes have, which here are under $1 million. My own current neighborhood of barely $1 million tract homes has one that is about to foreclose I suspect. It is currently a short sale. But I have seen no foreclosures in the $2-$4 million market here (not that I have been looking for foreclosures either).

I suppose I should go ahead and finally educate myself on 4S Ranch and contact my agent about the area.

[raptorduck]

All this time that I have been looking for a house in Rancho Santa Fe, I thought I had figured out what are all the neighborhoods/subdivisions.

I thought 4S Ranch was a seperate town and did not know it was part of RSF. Should I be looking there as well? Why do people call it 4closure ranch if it is part of RSF and why all the animosity towards that part of RSF? I know high end homes also foreclose, but the suggestion I see is that there are lots of foreclosures in 4S Ranch. Why is that?

I assume these are the same types of houses I have seen in the rest of RSF and in my price range, and of course far beyond it, but I have not seen the kind of homes RSF has ($2-$30 million!) foreclose up here like subprime loan homes have, which here are under $1 million. My own current neighborhood of barely $1 million tract homes has one that is about to foreclose I suspect. It is currently a short sale. But I have seen no foreclosures in the $2-$4 million market here (not that I have been looking for foreclosures either).

I suppose I should go ahead and finally educate myself on 4S Ranch and contact my agent about the area.

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