4 closure Ranch errr scratch that “Fire proof” Ranch = new nickname for 4S Ranch

[raptorduck]

As a current buyer in the hunt for homes down there, I can say from my perspective that, while I think the shelter-in-place concept is a good one, I am now wanting to look in neighborhoods that are outside of fire zones rather than in them and with shelter-in-place construction to compensate.

As for 4S Ranch, I can stay out of trouble from this acrimonious debate, since I have never heard of it, I think. Either way, I know nothing about that town/area? other than it is in North County somewhere, which I learned from this board.

[patientlywaiting]

I was talking about construction. They are all the same.

4S has some added landscaping requirements that diminish availability of fuel. But that’s why it looks characterless and dreadful. Why not cement the whole place? You won’t have any fire.

I think that Del Sur, next door to 4S has nicer landscaping (with trees in between the road and the sidewalks) and will have higher long term value. If you do away with the trees, you reduce fire hazards but the street will look barren and lifeless.

[patientlywaiting]

I was talking about construction. They are all the same.

4S has some added landscaping requirements that diminish availability of fuel. But that’s why it looks characterless and dreadful. Why not cement the whole place? You won’t have any fire.

I think that Del Sur, next door to 4S has nicer landscaping (with trees in between the road and the sidewalks) and will have higher long term value. If you do away with the trees, you reduce fire hazards but the street will look barren and lifeless.

[patientlywaiting]

I was talking about construction. They are all the same.

4S has some added landscaping requirements that diminish availability of fuel. But that’s why it looks characterless and dreadful. Why not cement the whole place? You won’t have any fire.

I think that Del Sur, next door to 4S has nicer landscaping (with trees in between the road and the sidewalks) and will have higher long term value. If you do away with the trees, you reduce fire hazards but the street will look barren and lifeless.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

Psst (whisper in ear) because they hate, despise, and attack anything which is a positive for the RE market because they are bitter (damn I should of bought back in 1999-2000!) and pessimistic until they become homeowners themselves (if ever???) and then they will do a 180. Essentially a selfish position infected with a dose of jealousy. On several threads you have people dancing on the burned ashes of others homes. Its rather pathetic.

There are plenty of owners and even multiple property owners, myself included, who post here regularly. We happened to have bought in 1996, 2000, and 2002. We are not bitter. We are not jealous.

We just have a short fuses for BS cheerleading.

Congratulations on avoiding the brunt of the fires and bringing this to our attention in multiple threads.
Now, let’s move on to relevant issues.

How many homes currently with NODs in Fire-Proof ranch ?
How many NOTs. OK, these properties are fire-proof.

Now, are they bubble-resistant ?

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

Psst (whisper in ear) because they hate, despise, and attack anything which is a positive for the RE market because they are bitter (damn I should of bought back in 1999-2000!) and pessimistic until they become homeowners themselves (if ever???) and then they will do a 180. Essentially a selfish position infected with a dose of jealousy. On several threads you have people dancing on the burned ashes of others homes. Its rather pathetic.

There are plenty of owners and even multiple property owners, myself included, who post here regularly. We happened to have bought in 1996, 2000, and 2002. We are not bitter. We are not jealous.

We just have a short fuses for BS cheerleading.

Congratulations on avoiding the brunt of the fires and bringing this to our attention in multiple threads.
Now, let’s move on to relevant issues.

How many homes currently with NODs in Fire-Proof ranch ?
How many NOTs. OK, these properties are fire-proof.

Now, are they bubble-resistant ?

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

Psst (whisper in ear) because they hate, despise, and attack anything which is a positive for the RE market because they are bitter (damn I should of bought back in 1999-2000!) and pessimistic until they become homeowners themselves (if ever???) and then they will do a 180. Essentially a selfish position infected with a dose of jealousy. On several threads you have people dancing on the burned ashes of others homes. Its rather pathetic.

There are plenty of owners and even multiple property owners, myself included, who post here regularly. We happened to have bought in 1996, 2000, and 2002. We are not bitter. We are not jealous.

We just have a short fuses for BS cheerleading.

Congratulations on avoiding the brunt of the fires and bringing this to our attention in multiple threads.
Now, let’s move on to relevant issues.

How many homes currently with NODs in Fire-Proof ranch ?
How many NOTs. OK, these properties are fire-proof.

Now, are they bubble-resistant ?

[PD]

I second FSD.

[PD]

I second FSD.

[PD]

I second FSD.

[4Sbuyer2002]

On that we can agree . . . 4S as with all areas of SD is still overpriced and have more room to fall. I made no comments on this point which is really not in dispute. BTW pointing out fire resistant technology in RE in SD in light of recent events is hardly “BS cheerleading.”

OK as you suggest on to the main topic at hand . . .

4S Foreclosures, per foreclosure.com = 5
http://www.foreclosure.com/search.html?tab=f&st=CA&cno=073&listingid=&ci=&z=92127&bdi=&bhi=&pi=&pa=&o=&ps=25&pg=&pmap=true

4S Pre-Foreclosures = 7
http://www.foreclosure.com/search.html?st=CA&cno=073&z=92127&tab=p

Of all of the foreclosure activity in the 92127 zip code these are the ones in 4S Ranch.

I would honestly be very interested if anyone has access to better data by zip code. It seems particularly hard to find. Assuming these numbers by foreclosure.com are even close to correct (they seem to be too low) it appears that the foreclosure tsunami hasn’t arrived at 4S yet.

grateful owner . . . .

[4Sbuyer2002]

On that we can agree . . . 4S as with all areas of SD is still overpriced and have more room to fall. I made no comments on this point which is really not in dispute. BTW pointing out fire resistant technology in RE in SD in light of recent events is hardly “BS cheerleading.”

OK as you suggest on to the main topic at hand . . .

4S Foreclosures, per foreclosure.com = 5
http://www.foreclosure.com/search.html?tab=f&st=CA&cno=073&listingid=&ci=&z=92127&bdi=&bhi=&pi=&pa=&o=&ps=25&pg=&pmap=true

4S Pre-Foreclosures = 7
http://www.foreclosure.com/search.html?st=CA&cno=073&z=92127&tab=p

Of all of the foreclosure activity in the 92127 zip code these are the ones in 4S Ranch.

I would honestly be very interested if anyone has access to better data by zip code. It seems particularly hard to find. Assuming these numbers by foreclosure.com are even close to correct (they seem to be too low) it appears that the foreclosure tsunami hasn’t arrived at 4S yet.

grateful owner . . . .

[4Sbuyer2002]

On that we can agree . . . 4S as with all areas of SD is still overpriced and have more room to fall. I made no comments on this point which is really not in dispute. BTW pointing out fire resistant technology in RE in SD in light of recent events is hardly “BS cheerleading.”

OK as you suggest on to the main topic at hand . . .

4S Foreclosures, per foreclosure.com = 5
http://www.foreclosure.com/search.html?tab=f&st=CA&cno=073&listingid=&ci=&z=92127&bdi=&bhi=&pi=&pa=&o=&ps=25&pg=&pmap=true

4S Pre-Foreclosures = 7
http://www.foreclosure.com/search.html?st=CA&cno=073&z=92127&tab=p

Of all of the foreclosure activity in the 92127 zip code these are the ones in 4S Ranch.

I would honestly be very interested if anyone has access to better data by zip code. It seems particularly hard to find. Assuming these numbers by foreclosure.com are even close to correct (they seem to be too low) it appears that the foreclosure tsunami hasn’t arrived at 4S yet.

grateful owner . . . .

[Duck]

Don’t know much about 4S except that they have some great soccer fields. I looked through the MLS to get some kind of feel for it since this drew so many responses and here’s my off the cuff takes:

1) Wow, the tax rate is very high. Almost 2% of the sales price.

2) Looking at the first 30 or so listngs about half are short sales, and quite a few others are RE agents selling their homes or Hovnanian closing out there homes. Looks like there was a lot of specualtion and a lot of 100% loans in 2003-2005. Maybe the “S” is for short sale.

3) Of the homes that are not short sales, just about everyone has “motivated” or “Owner needs to sell” in the confidential remarks. Those are some sharp agents helpng their sellers get top dollar. Geesh!

4) There are some decent size lots, but I noticed very few pools for a community that gets very hot for a good part of the year. Could this be because folks spent so much on the huse they didn’t have money left over for improvements? I know they have a community pool, but if you like to spend time in the water those get very tired after a while. Load up the kids, car, stuff, etc.

[Duck]

Don’t know much about 4S except that they have some great soccer fields. I looked through the MLS to get some kind of feel for it since this drew so many responses and here’s my off the cuff takes:

1) Wow, the tax rate is very high. Almost 2% of the sales price.

2) Looking at the first 30 or so listngs about half are short sales, and quite a few others are RE agents selling their homes or Hovnanian closing out there homes. Looks like there was a lot of specualtion and a lot of 100% loans in 2003-2005. Maybe the “S” is for short sale.

3) Of the homes that are not short sales, just about everyone has “motivated” or “Owner needs to sell” in the confidential remarks. Those are some sharp agents helpng their sellers get top dollar. Geesh!

4) There are some decent size lots, but I noticed very few pools for a community that gets very hot for a good part of the year. Could this be because folks spent so much on the huse they didn’t have money left over for improvements? I know they have a community pool, but if you like to spend time in the water those get very tired after a while. Load up the kids, car, stuff, etc.

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