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ParticipantDangerous, indeed.
Sinclair Broadcasting saying that fake news on social media being broadcast on TV news without fact checking is extremely dangerous to our democracy is like trump saying that kim jong un is nutty. The hypocrisy is mind-boggling.
The worst part is the insidiousness of it. People think they’re just getting the local news. But they’re being fed right-wing talking points. And these newscasters (being, some of them, good at their jobs) sound so earnest. Like this is something that they came up with on their own and which is very dear to their sweet, concerned little hearts. Viewers trust Jill, the local news lady, and take to heart what she has to say.
At least with fox, some people can see that it’s just blatant propaganda. But you start broadcasting this on your local station, and people have no idea that the product that their local news team is putting out is, in fact, also propaganda.
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]
in general though, it’s a bad idea to fuck stormy daniels without a condom[/quote]
Yeah, but it’s probably a worse idea to fuck donald trump without a condom.
I had to take a shower just from writing that.
ParticipantThursday, March 22, 2018.
That could go down as another really bad day for humans.
Naming John Bolton as national security adviser could end up the worst of many horrible decisions our conman loser jackass president has made or will make.
The adults have left the building, and we’re left with a bunch of foolish, belligerent, bad-tempered, improvident, impulsive, chest-thumping buffoons running the country.
We’d be better off with monkeys swinging from chandeliers, randomly pushing buttons, and screeching gibberish into phones.
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ParticipantWhen I saw the headline, I thought it was a joke.
This school district’s plan to stop shooters: Arming students with a bucket of rocks
But no. Superintendent Helsel says:
“Every classroom has been equipped with a five-gallon bucket of river stone. If an armed intruder attempts to gain entrance into any of our classrooms, they will face a classroom full of students armed with rocks, and they will be stoned.”
Mr. Helsel, you’re stoned.
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ParticipantSuper-conservative commentator quits fox because it’s a propaganda machine:
And, as bad as fox was for the country for getting this buffoon elected, they’re even worse for influencing his decisions.
from the WaPo article:
What makes Fox’s ravings so scary is that they are not just influencing the public — they are also influencing the president. Matthew Gertz of Media Matters for America found a feedback loop between Trump and the TV personalities he watches so faithfully. Many of the president’s deranged tweets — e.g., his claim that his “nuclear button” is “much bigger & more powerful” than Kim Jong Un’s or that Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin should be imprisoned — are lifted straight from Fox.
From Peters’ resignation letter:
… I feel compelled to explain why I have to leave. Four decades ago, I took an oath as a newly commissioned officer. I swore to “support and defend the Constitution,” and that oath did not expire when I took off my uniform. Today, I feel that Fox News is assaulting our constitutional order and the rule of law, while fostering corrosive and unjustified paranoia among viewers. Over my decade with Fox, I long was proud of the association. Now I am ashamed.
In my view, Fox has degenerated from providing a legitimate and much-needed outlet for conservative voices to a mere propaganda machine for a destructive and ethically ruinous administration. When prime-time hosts–who have never served our country in any capacity–dismiss facts and empirical reality to launch profoundly dishonest assaults on the FBI, the Justice Department, the courts, the intelligence community (in which I served) and, not least, a model public servant and genuine war hero such as Robert Mueller–all the while scaremongering with lurid warnings of “deep-state” machinations– I cannot be part of the same organization, even at a remove. To me, Fox News is now wittingly harming our system of government for profit.
As a Russia analyst for many years, it also has appalled me that hosts who made their reputations as super-patriots and who, justifiably, savaged President Obama for his duplicitous folly with Putin, now advance Putin’s agenda by making light of Russian penetration of our elections and the Trump campaign. Despite increasingly pathetic denials, it turns out that the “nothing-burger” has been covered with Russian dressing all along. And by the way: As an intelligence professional, I can tell you that the Steele dossier rings true–that’s how the Russians do things.. The result is that we have an American president who is terrified of his counterpart in Moscow.
Millions of brainwashed fools lap up fox’s excrement and treat it as the gospel. And they vote based on it. Even worse, our president laps it up and makes decisions based on it.
If anybody out there still thinks right-wing media aren’t destroying – or at least causing great damage to – our country, I’d like to hear their case for that opinion.
ParticipantI think a good name for a christian rock band would be “The Stepford Zombie Squirrels”
[quote=outtamojo]Stripped of its past programming is it even the same squirrel? It’s probably some kind of stepford zombie squirrel too dumb to even wonder how it got there.[/quote]
Participant[quote=njtosd]
Just for fun, imagine how a single day in your life would be different if everyone followed the 10 Commandments plus “Love thy neighbor as thyself” (both a Christian value and a quote from Leviticus). [/quote]Just for fun, imagine how a single day in your life would be different if everyone followed the word of the bible. Every word of the bible. The whole bible.
Participant[quote=njtosd]
I know that this is unfair, but I am pretty suspicious of ANY man who puts himself in a position to have unsupervised interaction with kids. Not that I think they are all bad, but I don’t trust my instincts enough to be sure which ones are good. [/quote]
I don’t think it’s unfair at all. In fact, we took it a step further when our daughter was young. We wouldn’t leave her with any man unsupervised whether he had put himself in that position or not. Not my brothers. Not our best friends. Nobody. How many times do you read in the news, “We knew him so well. I just can’t believe that he would do that.” An awful lot of men are pedophiles, and you have no way of knowing who is and who isn’t. Think of all the men who got away with it for years before they got caught. For every one of them, how many are still getting away with it? A little girl can’t defend herself and, in many cases, can’t speak up for herself, especially if she’s threatened. We figured it was up to us to make sure she never had to.
Participant[quote=njtosd][quote=zk][quote=njtosd]
Just for the record, there are many very logical people in the world who believe that there is something more to life. For instance, Francis Collins, NIH director, director of the human genome project, current Christian and former atheist.[/quote]Well, it depends on what you mean by “more to life,” but if you mean that they believe in something that they have no logical reason to believe in, then those people are, by definition, not logical (regarding their belief that there is “more to life”).[/quote]
Logic only works when you have information to manipulate. To analogize – if the world were an enormous room and there was a door that you could use to leave but could never return, logic is useless to determine what’s on the other side of the door. I realize that you can say it’s just another enormous room containing the people who left, but you have no data – it could be a swimming pool full of Skittles.[/quote]
We do have information to analyze. We have a certain amount of understanding of the laws of physics, and we have some observations of our universe. To analogize – to take our knowledge of the universe and conclude that the christian (or any particular) god exists is like seeing a swimming pool full of skittles and concluding that it’s the people who left.
Participant[quote=flyer][quote=zk][quote=flyer]”Different times call for different explanations.” That’s exactly why my wife invests in films she believes in. Well put.[/quote]
Fascinating.
Is that also exactly why you believe in your particular god?[/quote]
Thanks for asking, because I do so value your opinion, but I’ll just leave it at fascinating.[/quote]
Hey, you went a whole post without humble bragging or even regular bragging. Congratulations!
Anyway, I didn’t really want your undoubtedly-nonsensical answer, if you had one at all. I know you can’t logically defend your belief in your particular god, and I wouldn’t expect you to try.
But you respond to this:
[quote=scaredyclassic]why would we expect any religion to satisfyingly explain what we think is,reality for thousands of years?
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different times call for different explanations.[/quote]which basically calls your religion nonsense (if your god were real, it would be easy for him and his religion to satisfyingly explain reality forever, let alone thousands of years), with a typical and completely irrelevant (and typically completely irrelevant) mention of your wealth or your house in rancho santa fe or your wife’s film connections or your investment properties or your ivy-league kids or your fantastic vacations.
And then you get offended when asked about the actual subject that was being discussed.
smdh
Participant[quote=njtosd]
Just for the record, there are many very logical people in the world who believe that there is something more to life. For instance, Francis Collins, NIH director, director of the human genome project, current Christian and former atheist.[/quote]Well, it depends on what you mean by “more to life,” but if you mean that they believe in something that they have no logical reason to believe in, then those people are, by definition, not logical (regarding their belief that there is “more to life”).
Participant[quote=flyer]”Different times call for different explanations.” That’s exactly why my wife invests in films she believes in. Well put.[/quote]
Fascinating.
Is that also exactly why you believe in your particular god?
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