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Zeitgeist
Participant[quote=SD Realtor]We will see what happens. Single digits of infections this week…. I have not kept track of how long the disease has been present in non third world countries. I believe only for 2-3 weeks at most. Given the period of 2-21 days for symptoms to develop I believe the next few weeks will be quite interesting. However, the raw facts are such that measures needed to keep the virus contained will not be enacted.
The game changer is the breach of the non industrialized nations borders. ISIS and terrorism have nothing on Ebola but if ISIS was smart they should focus on smuggling infected people into the US as opposed to using guns and bombs.[/quote]
You are 100% right about that. Put them in a crowded venue or some other inner city environment and let the infection run wild. Shades of Escape from LA.
ParticipantNational Security Study Memorandum 200: Implications of Worldwide Population Growth for U.S. Security and Overseas Interests (NSSM200) was completed on December 10, 1974 by the United States National Security Council under the direction of Henry Kissinger.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Study_Memorandum_200
Maybe this is why we let Ebola take over parts of Africa…
just adding to the tinfoil head gear.ParticipantFor zk
http://www.medicare.gov/your-medicare-costs/costs-at-a-glance/costs-at-glance.html
http://blog.ehealthinsurance.com/2014/10/is-ebola-covered-by-my-health-insurance-plan/
http://thehappyhospitalist.blogspot.com/2014/08/Ebola-Virus-30-Day-Readmission-Medicare-Penalty.html
http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Daily-Reports/2014/August/05/opeds.aspx
ParticipantWhat about Obamacare?
ParticipantProbably not one of the one’s most people would think of, but this one is useful:
“More than 20 years ago journalist Edward Jay Epstein wrote the definitive expose of the diamond business, initially published in the Atlantic Monthly in 1982 and subsequently as a book, The Rise and Fall of Diamonds. Epstein, it must be said, is a conspiracy buff, but his research on diamonds is pretty credible. His central contention is that diamonds have little inherent value; their perennially high price is solely a function of clever promotion and ruthless manipulation of the market. You ask: Isn’t that true of any high-value product? Nope. Take gold, a true commodity in the sense that it’s fungible, as the economists say–like quantities of gold are freely interchangeable. Gold’s purity can be readily assayed and it’s indestructible for practical purposes, making it a reliable store of value. Even now that the world has abandoned the gold standard, gold’s price has held up well on the open market.”http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2524/is-a-diamonds-price-a-true-measure-of-its-value
ParticipantBecause there seems to be a rift here between the official version of how the experts describe Ebola behavior and the disturbing evidence of how it appears to be spreading, I have to post this:
“If you’re a conspiracy theorist, then you’re crazy, right? That’s been the common belief for years, but recent studies prove that just the opposite is true. “Researchers — psychologists and social scientists, mostly — in the U.S. and United Kingdom say data indicate that, contrary to those mainstream media stereotypes, ‘conspiracy theorists’ appear to be more sane than people who accept official versions of controversial and contested events.”
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/047168_conspiracy_theorists_sanity_propaganda.html##ixzz3G5jlph32
Participantzk,
I pray you are right and I am wrong. This is something I do not want to be right about. I hope the government is handling infection in a competent fashion and that the public is protected from this and other diseases that are being brought in from other countries as well as our own homegrown seasonal varieties. I remain hopefully skeptical based on how this first case was mishandled. Perhaps the various agencies involved will learn from their errors.This is why I am skeptical, since you like to know these things: “U.S. officials initially described the number of people potentially exposed as a handful, and on Wednesday said it was up to 18. But on Thursday, the Texas health department said there were about 100 potential contacts. However, Dallas County officials said more than 80 had direct or indirect contact with the patient. ‘We are working from a list of about 100 potential or possible contacts,’ Texas health department spokeswoman Carrie Williams said.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/02/us-health-ebola-usa-exposure-idUSKCN0HR18720141002The way I understand math, 100 is more than a handful and that is what I consider as lack of transparancy.
Participantzk,
You have your weltanschauung and I have mine. I do not want to argue with you because it is a waste of time or to quote Heinlein: “Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.” If you don’t want to read my posts why not just ignore me and look for posts that are more aligned with who you are.By the way, “The man who brought Ebola to the United States from West Africa 18 days ago has died in Dallas. Thomas Eric Duncan succumbed to the virus at 7.51am today at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital. His fiancée Louise Troh spoke out in anger shortly after his death and called for a full review of his medical care. Reverend Jesse Jackson, who appeared in public with Duncan’s mother, raised the specter of legal action against the hospital as he contemned Duncan’s treatment.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2785245/Dallas-Ebola-patient-dies-Thomas-Eric-Duncan-succumbs-deadly-disease-bringing-America-Liberia.html#ixzz3FaSRpyIzParticipantWow! You can’t make this stuff up.
Participant[img_assist|nid=15152|title=See no evil|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=75][quote=zk][quote=Zeitgeist]Hey zk guess what I am thinking since you are psychic.[/quote]
I don’t know what you’re thinking, but I know what you’re speaking: Gibberish.[/quote]
Your world view is simplistic.ParticipantFirst US Ebola Patient Dies
“Thomas A. Duncan, who became ill with Ebola after arriving from West Africa in Dallas two weeks ago, succumbed to the virus today (Sunday), reports Reuters. Duncan was fighting for his life at a Dallas hospital on today after his condition worsened to critical, according to the director of the US Centers for Disease Control.”
israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/305795#.VDGxtfldXEA
Not verified yet…
And on another ebola topic: “Frieden also said that, in theory, a sneeze or cough could spread the virus from someone experiencing Ebola symptoms. Officials had previously downplayed this possibility, focusing on direct contact with bodily fluids. There are certainly theoretical situations where someone sneezes … and you touch your eyes or mouth or nose,” and catch the virus from any transmitted particles, he said. “[But] realistically you can say what may be theoretically possible as opposed to what actually happens in the real world,” he added.
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/219626-officials-clam-up-about-ebola-response
ParticipantHey zk guess what I am thinking since you are psychic.
Participant“The CDC is asleep at the wheel,” Mobley charged today on “Your World.”
“Mobley told Neil Cavuto that he went through international customs last night, and there was no thermal screening. He said he was simply asked whether he had tobacco or alcohol with him.”
Participant“So Ebola is far less contagious than the flu or the cold and there is no reason to worry unless you are in “direct physical contact” with someone who has it. On the other hand, ‘if you’re within 3 feet” of someone who has it, that’s a situation we’d want to be concerned about.’”
“As Gupta noted, CDC itself states that being within approximately 3 feet of an Ebola patient or shaking his or her hand entails ‘some risk.’”
That version.
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