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UCGal
ParticipantThey can ask anything they want.
It will be interesting to see what they CLOSE at.Also – the sale that closed in December shows it was totally a “work in progress”. Like stripped to the studs.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/San-Diego/1235-Chalcedony-St-92109/home/5133783/sandicor-100016057
The new listing only has a picture of the outside- but at minumum we know they painted the outside. I’m assuming they finished it out.
If they did – then there is some value there to justify the price difference.
UCGal
ParticipantThey can ask anything they want.
It will be interesting to see what they CLOSE at.Also – the sale that closed in December shows it was totally a “work in progress”. Like stripped to the studs.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/San-Diego/1235-Chalcedony-St-92109/home/5133783/sandicor-100016057
The new listing only has a picture of the outside- but at minumum we know they painted the outside. I’m assuming they finished it out.
If they did – then there is some value there to justify the price difference.
UCGal
Participant[quote=ssr123]I was trying to find information about the builders and came across this.
http://www.la.bbb.org/Business-Report/California-West-Communities-13107190
Is this the same builder?[/quote]Nope… A quick google and check of the CSLB database shows that.
the 4s/crosbies developer is Robert Thorne.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/may/03/for-homebuilder-its-a-time-for-opportunity/He’s licensed under “California West Homes” and under “California West Construct”.
https://www2.cslb.ca.gov/OnlineServices/CheckLicenseII/PersonnelLicenseList.aspx?SeqNumber=785087&PersName=THORNE%2c+ROBERT+HARRY+JRThe guy you linked appears to be a different guy.
https://www2.cslb.ca.gov/OnlineServices/CheckLicenseII/LicenseDetail.aspx?LicNum=752426Having successfully gone through the CSLB complaint process – it’s not easy to get a license revoked. Not easy at all.
The guy you linked is
UCGal
Participant[quote=ssr123]I was trying to find information about the builders and came across this.
http://www.la.bbb.org/Business-Report/California-West-Communities-13107190
Is this the same builder?[/quote]Nope… A quick google and check of the CSLB database shows that.
the 4s/crosbies developer is Robert Thorne.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/may/03/for-homebuilder-its-a-time-for-opportunity/He’s licensed under “California West Homes” and under “California West Construct”.
https://www2.cslb.ca.gov/OnlineServices/CheckLicenseII/PersonnelLicenseList.aspx?SeqNumber=785087&PersName=THORNE%2c+ROBERT+HARRY+JRThe guy you linked appears to be a different guy.
https://www2.cslb.ca.gov/OnlineServices/CheckLicenseII/LicenseDetail.aspx?LicNum=752426Having successfully gone through the CSLB complaint process – it’s not easy to get a license revoked. Not easy at all.
The guy you linked is
UCGal
Participant[quote=ssr123]I was trying to find information about the builders and came across this.
http://www.la.bbb.org/Business-Report/California-West-Communities-13107190
Is this the same builder?[/quote]Nope… A quick google and check of the CSLB database shows that.
the 4s/crosbies developer is Robert Thorne.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/may/03/for-homebuilder-its-a-time-for-opportunity/He’s licensed under “California West Homes” and under “California West Construct”.
https://www2.cslb.ca.gov/OnlineServices/CheckLicenseII/PersonnelLicenseList.aspx?SeqNumber=785087&PersName=THORNE%2c+ROBERT+HARRY+JRThe guy you linked appears to be a different guy.
https://www2.cslb.ca.gov/OnlineServices/CheckLicenseII/LicenseDetail.aspx?LicNum=752426Having successfully gone through the CSLB complaint process – it’s not easy to get a license revoked. Not easy at all.
The guy you linked is
UCGal
Participant[quote=ssr123]I was trying to find information about the builders and came across this.
http://www.la.bbb.org/Business-Report/California-West-Communities-13107190
Is this the same builder?[/quote]Nope… A quick google and check of the CSLB database shows that.
the 4s/crosbies developer is Robert Thorne.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/may/03/for-homebuilder-its-a-time-for-opportunity/He’s licensed under “California West Homes” and under “California West Construct”.
https://www2.cslb.ca.gov/OnlineServices/CheckLicenseII/PersonnelLicenseList.aspx?SeqNumber=785087&PersName=THORNE%2c+ROBERT+HARRY+JRThe guy you linked appears to be a different guy.
https://www2.cslb.ca.gov/OnlineServices/CheckLicenseII/LicenseDetail.aspx?LicNum=752426Having successfully gone through the CSLB complaint process – it’s not easy to get a license revoked. Not easy at all.
The guy you linked is
UCGal
Participant[quote=ssr123]I was trying to find information about the builders and came across this.
http://www.la.bbb.org/Business-Report/California-West-Communities-13107190
Is this the same builder?[/quote]Nope… A quick google and check of the CSLB database shows that.
the 4s/crosbies developer is Robert Thorne.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/may/03/for-homebuilder-its-a-time-for-opportunity/He’s licensed under “California West Homes” and under “California West Construct”.
https://www2.cslb.ca.gov/OnlineServices/CheckLicenseII/PersonnelLicenseList.aspx?SeqNumber=785087&PersName=THORNE%2c+ROBERT+HARRY+JRThe guy you linked appears to be a different guy.
https://www2.cslb.ca.gov/OnlineServices/CheckLicenseII/LicenseDetail.aspx?LicNum=752426Having successfully gone through the CSLB complaint process – it’s not easy to get a license revoked. Not easy at all.
The guy you linked is
UCGal
Participant[quote=Scarlett]I am taking now a few months long hiatus in house hunting. But still I am watching, UC included, and I was actually recently telling my DH that there seem to be more deals in the low 500s and 1500 sf in UC nowadays. It almost seems that prices are coming down a tad bit there (or it’s more inventory). (to clarify, at my current workplace, from UC I will take 52, the fastest route – I am not against it at all; my DH would take surface streets).
NOTE: definitely NEED 2 baths for 4 people. If 2 story, got to be 2.5. We won’t compromise on this one.[/quote]
I’ve definitely notice more houses in the 500’s in UC of late. Maybe reality is entering the market.
In theory I should object to my hood dropping in price- since it effects my “wealth” on paper… but since my goal is to get my house paid off and live in it forever… I would rather see sanity than bubbles in the market.
UCGal
Participant[quote=Scarlett]I am taking now a few months long hiatus in house hunting. But still I am watching, UC included, and I was actually recently telling my DH that there seem to be more deals in the low 500s and 1500 sf in UC nowadays. It almost seems that prices are coming down a tad bit there (or it’s more inventory). (to clarify, at my current workplace, from UC I will take 52, the fastest route – I am not against it at all; my DH would take surface streets).
NOTE: definitely NEED 2 baths for 4 people. If 2 story, got to be 2.5. We won’t compromise on this one.[/quote]
I’ve definitely notice more houses in the 500’s in UC of late. Maybe reality is entering the market.
In theory I should object to my hood dropping in price- since it effects my “wealth” on paper… but since my goal is to get my house paid off and live in it forever… I would rather see sanity than bubbles in the market.
UCGal
Participant[quote=Scarlett]I am taking now a few months long hiatus in house hunting. But still I am watching, UC included, and I was actually recently telling my DH that there seem to be more deals in the low 500s and 1500 sf in UC nowadays. It almost seems that prices are coming down a tad bit there (or it’s more inventory). (to clarify, at my current workplace, from UC I will take 52, the fastest route – I am not against it at all; my DH would take surface streets).
NOTE: definitely NEED 2 baths for 4 people. If 2 story, got to be 2.5. We won’t compromise on this one.[/quote]
I’ve definitely notice more houses in the 500’s in UC of late. Maybe reality is entering the market.
In theory I should object to my hood dropping in price- since it effects my “wealth” on paper… but since my goal is to get my house paid off and live in it forever… I would rather see sanity than bubbles in the market.
UCGal
Participant[quote=Scarlett]I am taking now a few months long hiatus in house hunting. But still I am watching, UC included, and I was actually recently telling my DH that there seem to be more deals in the low 500s and 1500 sf in UC nowadays. It almost seems that prices are coming down a tad bit there (or it’s more inventory). (to clarify, at my current workplace, from UC I will take 52, the fastest route – I am not against it at all; my DH would take surface streets).
NOTE: definitely NEED 2 baths for 4 people. If 2 story, got to be 2.5. We won’t compromise on this one.[/quote]
I’ve definitely notice more houses in the 500’s in UC of late. Maybe reality is entering the market.
In theory I should object to my hood dropping in price- since it effects my “wealth” on paper… but since my goal is to get my house paid off and live in it forever… I would rather see sanity than bubbles in the market.
UCGal
Participant[quote=Scarlett]I am taking now a few months long hiatus in house hunting. But still I am watching, UC included, and I was actually recently telling my DH that there seem to be more deals in the low 500s and 1500 sf in UC nowadays. It almost seems that prices are coming down a tad bit there (or it’s more inventory). (to clarify, at my current workplace, from UC I will take 52, the fastest route – I am not against it at all; my DH would take surface streets).
NOTE: definitely NEED 2 baths for 4 people. If 2 story, got to be 2.5. We won’t compromise on this one.[/quote]
I’ve definitely notice more houses in the 500’s in UC of late. Maybe reality is entering the market.
In theory I should object to my hood dropping in price- since it effects my “wealth” on paper… but since my goal is to get my house paid off and live in it forever… I would rather see sanity than bubbles in the market.
UCGal
Participant[quote=bearishgurl]
I want to appeal all native San Diegan and lifetime San Diegan Piggs to think back to your “home turf” as you remember it. Bear in mind that relatively low cost cosmetic and heavy “fixers” still exist there today, whether currently listed or not. Think back to the house you grew up in. Do your parent(s) still reside there?Now ask yourself, would I raise my family in this home? Even if I inherited the home free and clear, would I raise my family in it? Would I move back to my home turf and raise my family in my deceased parent(s)’ home or buy a fixer there on the cheap near my relatives so my family could live on one income? What if it was situated on a 9K sf lot??
[/quote]LOL – I’ll take the bite.
I’m a native San Diegan fast approaching age 50. From 1961-65 lived in Clairemont, near Balboa and Genesee. House was a 3 br/2ba about 1200 sf. We moved because it was crowded for a family of 4. No family room… just living room. 5000sf lot – so not a huge lot. In other words – even back then 1200 for a family with 3 kids was crowded.My parents then bought a REO in UC. 2016 sf. Great house to grow up in – but it was the BOONIES. Back then UTC didn’t exist. 52 didn’t exist. 805 didn’t exist. Even Genesee didn’t connect UC to Clairemont… The only way in and out was on Regents Rd to Clairemont Mesa Blvd. (and then cut over on Moraga to Balboa to get to the 5 freeway.)
I bought the house from my dad. (not inherited – paid market value… a 2000% profit for the 35 years my parents owned it). So I’m living in the exact same model/size/lot/location that my parents chose to raise their kids. And my particular street has several 2nd gen families. 3 others that I know for sure – there may be more… I suspect as the parents age – there will be more in the future. It’s a good neighborhood and the houses are fine.
One of the differences… My parents bought with just one income. And they bought when they were in their mid 30’s. They had to carry two mortgages because it was a down market and they kept the Clairemont house as a rental till the market improved. We needed just over 1 income (refi in 2009 brought our budget to where we live on one income – bank/fund my dreams of early retirement with the other.) My mom went to work when I was entering jr. high… and her income paid for our college.
Another difference: we were older when we bought – and had nice equity from previous homes – so we paid off a huge portion right from the get go. Having savings/equity from previous homes made it affordable.
Not sure we could have swung (at least within our comfort zone) if we didn’t have that large down… We wouldn’t have had that large down at the age my parents bought the house.
So… comparing apples to apples. My parents were able to afford the same house at a younger age on just one income. My dad was an engineer, so am I.
UCGal
Participant[quote=bearishgurl]
I want to appeal all native San Diegan and lifetime San Diegan Piggs to think back to your “home turf” as you remember it. Bear in mind that relatively low cost cosmetic and heavy “fixers” still exist there today, whether currently listed or not. Think back to the house you grew up in. Do your parent(s) still reside there?Now ask yourself, would I raise my family in this home? Even if I inherited the home free and clear, would I raise my family in it? Would I move back to my home turf and raise my family in my deceased parent(s)’ home or buy a fixer there on the cheap near my relatives so my family could live on one income? What if it was situated on a 9K sf lot??
[/quote]LOL – I’ll take the bite.
I’m a native San Diegan fast approaching age 50. From 1961-65 lived in Clairemont, near Balboa and Genesee. House was a 3 br/2ba about 1200 sf. We moved because it was crowded for a family of 4. No family room… just living room. 5000sf lot – so not a huge lot. In other words – even back then 1200 for a family with 3 kids was crowded.My parents then bought a REO in UC. 2016 sf. Great house to grow up in – but it was the BOONIES. Back then UTC didn’t exist. 52 didn’t exist. 805 didn’t exist. Even Genesee didn’t connect UC to Clairemont… The only way in and out was on Regents Rd to Clairemont Mesa Blvd. (and then cut over on Moraga to Balboa to get to the 5 freeway.)
I bought the house from my dad. (not inherited – paid market value… a 2000% profit for the 35 years my parents owned it). So I’m living in the exact same model/size/lot/location that my parents chose to raise their kids. And my particular street has several 2nd gen families. 3 others that I know for sure – there may be more… I suspect as the parents age – there will be more in the future. It’s a good neighborhood and the houses are fine.
One of the differences… My parents bought with just one income. And they bought when they were in their mid 30’s. They had to carry two mortgages because it was a down market and they kept the Clairemont house as a rental till the market improved. We needed just over 1 income (refi in 2009 brought our budget to where we live on one income – bank/fund my dreams of early retirement with the other.) My mom went to work when I was entering jr. high… and her income paid for our college.
Another difference: we were older when we bought – and had nice equity from previous homes – so we paid off a huge portion right from the get go. Having savings/equity from previous homes made it affordable.
Not sure we could have swung (at least within our comfort zone) if we didn’t have that large down… We wouldn’t have had that large down at the age my parents bought the house.
So… comparing apples to apples. My parents were able to afford the same house at a younger age on just one income. My dad was an engineer, so am I.
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