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temeculaguy
ParticipantMatt, you have to read between the lines, this is part of the dance, the govenor is going to take part of the scheduled increase in the education budget away and give all the districts just about what they got last year, without their inflation increase for raises and such they will all be making some cuts. The political machine has branded this a “cut” and every district is putting out “sky is falling” predictions. It’s not thier fault, it’s what they do. The temecula school closure isn’t so much about money as it is about enrollment shortfalls due to the slow construction of homes. There are five elementary schools south of 79 alone. Redhawk has two, vail, morgan and wolf creek each have one. There aren’t any kids living on the vacant lots in Morgan and Wolf but the district made the developers build the schools first. Some of the schools have only two classes per grade and 300 students, half the enrollment before two new schools were opened in the last few years. Closing one and consolidating the students into four is just cheaper (electricity, maintenance, support staff, etc.) and there is a school every half mile. they should close one of those schools until the homes are completed but they wont, they will find 5 million bucks laying around, like the article indicated, I wish i could find money like that. The threat is always to close schools and affect classrooms, in the end it will be administration where the cuts will be or the money will come but nobody cares about admin so they say it will hurt the classes. This happens in all forms of government and is often referred to as a kabuki dance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabuki_dance
Should your government try to be efficient, NO!, they should do whatever they have to keep what they have and try to get more, whether they need it or not. If two schools are only half full an they are a half mile apart, it makes sense to consolidate.
Whenever Washington D.C. cuts the park budget, the parks department shuts down the Washington monument so the public screams at the lawmakers and reinstates the funding even though the cut had no affect on the monument or their ability to operate, this is also known as a classic kabuki dance. It’s a game matt, the newspaper is just one of the tools used in this game, don’t fall for it.
temeculaguy
ParticipantMatt, you have to read between the lines, this is part of the dance, the govenor is going to take part of the scheduled increase in the education budget away and give all the districts just about what they got last year, without their inflation increase for raises and such they will all be making some cuts. The political machine has branded this a “cut” and every district is putting out “sky is falling” predictions. It’s not thier fault, it’s what they do. The temecula school closure isn’t so much about money as it is about enrollment shortfalls due to the slow construction of homes. There are five elementary schools south of 79 alone. Redhawk has two, vail, morgan and wolf creek each have one. There aren’t any kids living on the vacant lots in Morgan and Wolf but the district made the developers build the schools first. Some of the schools have only two classes per grade and 300 students, half the enrollment before two new schools were opened in the last few years. Closing one and consolidating the students into four is just cheaper (electricity, maintenance, support staff, etc.) and there is a school every half mile. they should close one of those schools until the homes are completed but they wont, they will find 5 million bucks laying around, like the article indicated, I wish i could find money like that. The threat is always to close schools and affect classrooms, in the end it will be administration where the cuts will be or the money will come but nobody cares about admin so they say it will hurt the classes. This happens in all forms of government and is often referred to as a kabuki dance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabuki_dance
Should your government try to be efficient, NO!, they should do whatever they have to keep what they have and try to get more, whether they need it or not. If two schools are only half full an they are a half mile apart, it makes sense to consolidate.
Whenever Washington D.C. cuts the park budget, the parks department shuts down the Washington monument so the public screams at the lawmakers and reinstates the funding even though the cut had no affect on the monument or their ability to operate, this is also known as a classic kabuki dance. It’s a game matt, the newspaper is just one of the tools used in this game, don’t fall for it.
temeculaguy
ParticipantMatt, you have to read between the lines, this is part of the dance, the govenor is going to take part of the scheduled increase in the education budget away and give all the districts just about what they got last year, without their inflation increase for raises and such they will all be making some cuts. The political machine has branded this a “cut” and every district is putting out “sky is falling” predictions. It’s not thier fault, it’s what they do. The temecula school closure isn’t so much about money as it is about enrollment shortfalls due to the slow construction of homes. There are five elementary schools south of 79 alone. Redhawk has two, vail, morgan and wolf creek each have one. There aren’t any kids living on the vacant lots in Morgan and Wolf but the district made the developers build the schools first. Some of the schools have only two classes per grade and 300 students, half the enrollment before two new schools were opened in the last few years. Closing one and consolidating the students into four is just cheaper (electricity, maintenance, support staff, etc.) and there is a school every half mile. they should close one of those schools until the homes are completed but they wont, they will find 5 million bucks laying around, like the article indicated, I wish i could find money like that. The threat is always to close schools and affect classrooms, in the end it will be administration where the cuts will be or the money will come but nobody cares about admin so they say it will hurt the classes. This happens in all forms of government and is often referred to as a kabuki dance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabuki_dance
Should your government try to be efficient, NO!, they should do whatever they have to keep what they have and try to get more, whether they need it or not. If two schools are only half full an they are a half mile apart, it makes sense to consolidate.
Whenever Washington D.C. cuts the park budget, the parks department shuts down the Washington monument so the public screams at the lawmakers and reinstates the funding even though the cut had no affect on the monument or their ability to operate, this is also known as a classic kabuki dance. It’s a game matt, the newspaper is just one of the tools used in this game, don’t fall for it.
temeculaguy
ParticipantMatt, you have to read between the lines, this is part of the dance, the govenor is going to take part of the scheduled increase in the education budget away and give all the districts just about what they got last year, without their inflation increase for raises and such they will all be making some cuts. The political machine has branded this a “cut” and every district is putting out “sky is falling” predictions. It’s not thier fault, it’s what they do. The temecula school closure isn’t so much about money as it is about enrollment shortfalls due to the slow construction of homes. There are five elementary schools south of 79 alone. Redhawk has two, vail, morgan and wolf creek each have one. There aren’t any kids living on the vacant lots in Morgan and Wolf but the district made the developers build the schools first. Some of the schools have only two classes per grade and 300 students, half the enrollment before two new schools were opened in the last few years. Closing one and consolidating the students into four is just cheaper (electricity, maintenance, support staff, etc.) and there is a school every half mile. they should close one of those schools until the homes are completed but they wont, they will find 5 million bucks laying around, like the article indicated, I wish i could find money like that. The threat is always to close schools and affect classrooms, in the end it will be administration where the cuts will be or the money will come but nobody cares about admin so they say it will hurt the classes. This happens in all forms of government and is often referred to as a kabuki dance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabuki_dance
Should your government try to be efficient, NO!, they should do whatever they have to keep what they have and try to get more, whether they need it or not. If two schools are only half full an they are a half mile apart, it makes sense to consolidate.
Whenever Washington D.C. cuts the park budget, the parks department shuts down the Washington monument so the public screams at the lawmakers and reinstates the funding even though the cut had no affect on the monument or their ability to operate, this is also known as a classic kabuki dance. It’s a game matt, the newspaper is just one of the tools used in this game, don’t fall for it.
temeculaguy
Participantsan diego, this is not the first “rodeo” for the Temecula schools, the downturn of 1992-1996 did not harm the schools based on how tax revenue is collected and dispersed, this one wont either. A little civics lesson but while the county collects your property taxes, the state takes most of it, throws it in a pile and redistributes it, not evenly I might add but based on a few factors, enrollment being one of them (a little socialism at play). Tax wise, the city will be fine, cities primarily live on sales tax, not so much property tax and the city has almost all of the region’s retail, (mall, auto mall, etc.). The schools are all pretty much new and were paid for by the developers, the district isn’t paying off huge debt from construction and deoesn’t have repair or refurbishment obligations looming so I’m not worried about them. Most districts are crying in the media because the state is going to reduce their scheduled budget increase, but that is pretty much just noise.
I actually think that the r/e crash will help the schools locally. School quality is primarily based on the staff. If a teacher is good and makes 60-75k no matter what district they work in but house prices are half in Temecula compared to let’s say carlsbad, why would a good teacher choose to live in carlsbad where their pay is 1/10 of the cost of a house vs temecula where their pay is 1/3 or 1/4 of a median house. This is because in areas where housing costs double, teacher pay isn’t double and that goes back to the way the state “redistributes” property taxes. The other quality factor is the students themselves, temecula has benefitted from a high number of stay at home moms, I’ve lived on streets where the number is 90% of the moms stay at home and that is why they moved here. Evidence of this can be found when comparing a typical school in Poway vs. a more expensive area, let’s say La Jolla, Poway homes are cheaper than La Jolla but their schools do better, why, the parents are of a different ilk, few move their kids to private schools and the teachers can live better on a similar salary. The recent bubble is going to hurt the poway district’s ability to attract quality teachers if prices don’t come down but they will always be cheaper than La jolla.
temeculaguy
Participantsan diego, this is not the first “rodeo” for the Temecula schools, the downturn of 1992-1996 did not harm the schools based on how tax revenue is collected and dispersed, this one wont either. A little civics lesson but while the county collects your property taxes, the state takes most of it, throws it in a pile and redistributes it, not evenly I might add but based on a few factors, enrollment being one of them (a little socialism at play). Tax wise, the city will be fine, cities primarily live on sales tax, not so much property tax and the city has almost all of the region’s retail, (mall, auto mall, etc.). The schools are all pretty much new and were paid for by the developers, the district isn’t paying off huge debt from construction and deoesn’t have repair or refurbishment obligations looming so I’m not worried about them. Most districts are crying in the media because the state is going to reduce their scheduled budget increase, but that is pretty much just noise.
I actually think that the r/e crash will help the schools locally. School quality is primarily based on the staff. If a teacher is good and makes 60-75k no matter what district they work in but house prices are half in Temecula compared to let’s say carlsbad, why would a good teacher choose to live in carlsbad where their pay is 1/10 of the cost of a house vs temecula where their pay is 1/3 or 1/4 of a median house. This is because in areas where housing costs double, teacher pay isn’t double and that goes back to the way the state “redistributes” property taxes. The other quality factor is the students themselves, temecula has benefitted from a high number of stay at home moms, I’ve lived on streets where the number is 90% of the moms stay at home and that is why they moved here. Evidence of this can be found when comparing a typical school in Poway vs. a more expensive area, let’s say La Jolla, Poway homes are cheaper than La Jolla but their schools do better, why, the parents are of a different ilk, few move their kids to private schools and the teachers can live better on a similar salary. The recent bubble is going to hurt the poway district’s ability to attract quality teachers if prices don’t come down but they will always be cheaper than La jolla.
temeculaguy
Participantsan diego, this is not the first “rodeo” for the Temecula schools, the downturn of 1992-1996 did not harm the schools based on how tax revenue is collected and dispersed, this one wont either. A little civics lesson but while the county collects your property taxes, the state takes most of it, throws it in a pile and redistributes it, not evenly I might add but based on a few factors, enrollment being one of them (a little socialism at play). Tax wise, the city will be fine, cities primarily live on sales tax, not so much property tax and the city has almost all of the region’s retail, (mall, auto mall, etc.). The schools are all pretty much new and were paid for by the developers, the district isn’t paying off huge debt from construction and deoesn’t have repair or refurbishment obligations looming so I’m not worried about them. Most districts are crying in the media because the state is going to reduce their scheduled budget increase, but that is pretty much just noise.
I actually think that the r/e crash will help the schools locally. School quality is primarily based on the staff. If a teacher is good and makes 60-75k no matter what district they work in but house prices are half in Temecula compared to let’s say carlsbad, why would a good teacher choose to live in carlsbad where their pay is 1/10 of the cost of a house vs temecula where their pay is 1/3 or 1/4 of a median house. This is because in areas where housing costs double, teacher pay isn’t double and that goes back to the way the state “redistributes” property taxes. The other quality factor is the students themselves, temecula has benefitted from a high number of stay at home moms, I’ve lived on streets where the number is 90% of the moms stay at home and that is why they moved here. Evidence of this can be found when comparing a typical school in Poway vs. a more expensive area, let’s say La Jolla, Poway homes are cheaper than La Jolla but their schools do better, why, the parents are of a different ilk, few move their kids to private schools and the teachers can live better on a similar salary. The recent bubble is going to hurt the poway district’s ability to attract quality teachers if prices don’t come down but they will always be cheaper than La jolla.
temeculaguy
Participantsan diego, this is not the first “rodeo” for the Temecula schools, the downturn of 1992-1996 did not harm the schools based on how tax revenue is collected and dispersed, this one wont either. A little civics lesson but while the county collects your property taxes, the state takes most of it, throws it in a pile and redistributes it, not evenly I might add but based on a few factors, enrollment being one of them (a little socialism at play). Tax wise, the city will be fine, cities primarily live on sales tax, not so much property tax and the city has almost all of the region’s retail, (mall, auto mall, etc.). The schools are all pretty much new and were paid for by the developers, the district isn’t paying off huge debt from construction and deoesn’t have repair or refurbishment obligations looming so I’m not worried about them. Most districts are crying in the media because the state is going to reduce their scheduled budget increase, but that is pretty much just noise.
I actually think that the r/e crash will help the schools locally. School quality is primarily based on the staff. If a teacher is good and makes 60-75k no matter what district they work in but house prices are half in Temecula compared to let’s say carlsbad, why would a good teacher choose to live in carlsbad where their pay is 1/10 of the cost of a house vs temecula where their pay is 1/3 or 1/4 of a median house. This is because in areas where housing costs double, teacher pay isn’t double and that goes back to the way the state “redistributes” property taxes. The other quality factor is the students themselves, temecula has benefitted from a high number of stay at home moms, I’ve lived on streets where the number is 90% of the moms stay at home and that is why they moved here. Evidence of this can be found when comparing a typical school in Poway vs. a more expensive area, let’s say La Jolla, Poway homes are cheaper than La Jolla but their schools do better, why, the parents are of a different ilk, few move their kids to private schools and the teachers can live better on a similar salary. The recent bubble is going to hurt the poway district’s ability to attract quality teachers if prices don’t come down but they will always be cheaper than La jolla.
temeculaguy
Participantsan diego, this is not the first “rodeo” for the Temecula schools, the downturn of 1992-1996 did not harm the schools based on how tax revenue is collected and dispersed, this one wont either. A little civics lesson but while the county collects your property taxes, the state takes most of it, throws it in a pile and redistributes it, not evenly I might add but based on a few factors, enrollment being one of them (a little socialism at play). Tax wise, the city will be fine, cities primarily live on sales tax, not so much property tax and the city has almost all of the region’s retail, (mall, auto mall, etc.). The schools are all pretty much new and were paid for by the developers, the district isn’t paying off huge debt from construction and deoesn’t have repair or refurbishment obligations looming so I’m not worried about them. Most districts are crying in the media because the state is going to reduce their scheduled budget increase, but that is pretty much just noise.
I actually think that the r/e crash will help the schools locally. School quality is primarily based on the staff. If a teacher is good and makes 60-75k no matter what district they work in but house prices are half in Temecula compared to let’s say carlsbad, why would a good teacher choose to live in carlsbad where their pay is 1/10 of the cost of a house vs temecula where their pay is 1/3 or 1/4 of a median house. This is because in areas where housing costs double, teacher pay isn’t double and that goes back to the way the state “redistributes” property taxes. The other quality factor is the students themselves, temecula has benefitted from a high number of stay at home moms, I’ve lived on streets where the number is 90% of the moms stay at home and that is why they moved here. Evidence of this can be found when comparing a typical school in Poway vs. a more expensive area, let’s say La Jolla, Poway homes are cheaper than La Jolla but their schools do better, why, the parents are of a different ilk, few move their kids to private schools and the teachers can live better on a similar salary. The recent bubble is going to hurt the poway district’s ability to attract quality teachers if prices don’t come down but they will always be cheaper than La jolla.
March 21, 2008 at 6:10 PM in reply to: HELP! Landlord asking if we want to buy our rental as “short sale” #174476temeculaguy
Participantdharma, if she cleared her nod then you have four months minumum before you could be foreclosed on and booted. Where you need to renegotiate rent is if she decides to list it as a short sale on the open market, you have no obligation to allow showings or a lock box. Learn from my experience, don’t allow it unless rent is at least half off. It looks like you will be fine until August, just start looking for another place at the end of the lease or look to buy, four months is a decade in this market, look at things four months ago.
Svelte, if you watch the public records, you can get over three months notice. Suprisingly, it hasn’t gotten old, it’s fun. Every month I write a check for $1500 and then check on the list prices of the houses i was going to buy because i was too lazy to move twice. The minumum monthly reduction is 10k, sometimes upwards of 40k. Who cares about planning vacations, I can fly to Europe every week with the money I’m saving, who cares about planning, it’s easily 10k a month in savings to not buy. Not knowing if I have to move just isn’t worth 10k a month to me.
March 21, 2008 at 6:10 PM in reply to: HELP! Landlord asking if we want to buy our rental as “short sale” #174825temeculaguy
Participantdharma, if she cleared her nod then you have four months minumum before you could be foreclosed on and booted. Where you need to renegotiate rent is if she decides to list it as a short sale on the open market, you have no obligation to allow showings or a lock box. Learn from my experience, don’t allow it unless rent is at least half off. It looks like you will be fine until August, just start looking for another place at the end of the lease or look to buy, four months is a decade in this market, look at things four months ago.
Svelte, if you watch the public records, you can get over three months notice. Suprisingly, it hasn’t gotten old, it’s fun. Every month I write a check for $1500 and then check on the list prices of the houses i was going to buy because i was too lazy to move twice. The minumum monthly reduction is 10k, sometimes upwards of 40k. Who cares about planning vacations, I can fly to Europe every week with the money I’m saving, who cares about planning, it’s easily 10k a month in savings to not buy. Not knowing if I have to move just isn’t worth 10k a month to me.
March 21, 2008 at 6:10 PM in reply to: HELP! Landlord asking if we want to buy our rental as “short sale” #174827temeculaguy
Participantdharma, if she cleared her nod then you have four months minumum before you could be foreclosed on and booted. Where you need to renegotiate rent is if she decides to list it as a short sale on the open market, you have no obligation to allow showings or a lock box. Learn from my experience, don’t allow it unless rent is at least half off. It looks like you will be fine until August, just start looking for another place at the end of the lease or look to buy, four months is a decade in this market, look at things four months ago.
Svelte, if you watch the public records, you can get over three months notice. Suprisingly, it hasn’t gotten old, it’s fun. Every month I write a check for $1500 and then check on the list prices of the houses i was going to buy because i was too lazy to move twice. The minumum monthly reduction is 10k, sometimes upwards of 40k. Who cares about planning vacations, I can fly to Europe every week with the money I’m saving, who cares about planning, it’s easily 10k a month in savings to not buy. Not knowing if I have to move just isn’t worth 10k a month to me.
March 21, 2008 at 6:10 PM in reply to: HELP! Landlord asking if we want to buy our rental as “short sale” #174840temeculaguy
Participantdharma, if she cleared her nod then you have four months minumum before you could be foreclosed on and booted. Where you need to renegotiate rent is if she decides to list it as a short sale on the open market, you have no obligation to allow showings or a lock box. Learn from my experience, don’t allow it unless rent is at least half off. It looks like you will be fine until August, just start looking for another place at the end of the lease or look to buy, four months is a decade in this market, look at things four months ago.
Svelte, if you watch the public records, you can get over three months notice. Suprisingly, it hasn’t gotten old, it’s fun. Every month I write a check for $1500 and then check on the list prices of the houses i was going to buy because i was too lazy to move twice. The minumum monthly reduction is 10k, sometimes upwards of 40k. Who cares about planning vacations, I can fly to Europe every week with the money I’m saving, who cares about planning, it’s easily 10k a month in savings to not buy. Not knowing if I have to move just isn’t worth 10k a month to me.
March 21, 2008 at 6:10 PM in reply to: HELP! Landlord asking if we want to buy our rental as “short sale” #174921temeculaguy
Participantdharma, if she cleared her nod then you have four months minumum before you could be foreclosed on and booted. Where you need to renegotiate rent is if she decides to list it as a short sale on the open market, you have no obligation to allow showings or a lock box. Learn from my experience, don’t allow it unless rent is at least half off. It looks like you will be fine until August, just start looking for another place at the end of the lease or look to buy, four months is a decade in this market, look at things four months ago.
Svelte, if you watch the public records, you can get over three months notice. Suprisingly, it hasn’t gotten old, it’s fun. Every month I write a check for $1500 and then check on the list prices of the houses i was going to buy because i was too lazy to move twice. The minumum monthly reduction is 10k, sometimes upwards of 40k. Who cares about planning vacations, I can fly to Europe every week with the money I’m saving, who cares about planning, it’s easily 10k a month in savings to not buy. Not knowing if I have to move just isn’t worth 10k a month to me.
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