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March 21, 2008 at 1:30 PM #174815March 21, 2008 at 2:00 PM #174377
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ParticipantHaha I enjoyed the clip. But seriously unless you have the kind of money that allows you live in a hermetically sealed community of “classy” people, you’re going to have to deal with the occasional eyesore and *gasp* may have to look at some less than “desirable” people (in your mind) walking down the street. That’s true in most of the country.
March 21, 2008 at 2:00 PM #174723sd-maybe
ParticipantHaha I enjoyed the clip. But seriously unless you have the kind of money that allows you live in a hermetically sealed community of “classy” people, you’re going to have to deal with the occasional eyesore and *gasp* may have to look at some less than “desirable” people (in your mind) walking down the street. That’s true in most of the country.
March 21, 2008 at 2:00 PM #174729sd-maybe
ParticipantHaha I enjoyed the clip. But seriously unless you have the kind of money that allows you live in a hermetically sealed community of “classy” people, you’re going to have to deal with the occasional eyesore and *gasp* may have to look at some less than “desirable” people (in your mind) walking down the street. That’s true in most of the country.
March 21, 2008 at 2:00 PM #174737sd-maybe
ParticipantHaha I enjoyed the clip. But seriously unless you have the kind of money that allows you live in a hermetically sealed community of “classy” people, you’re going to have to deal with the occasional eyesore and *gasp* may have to look at some less than “desirable” people (in your mind) walking down the street. That’s true in most of the country.
March 21, 2008 at 2:00 PM #174824sd-maybe
ParticipantHaha I enjoyed the clip. But seriously unless you have the kind of money that allows you live in a hermetically sealed community of “classy” people, you’re going to have to deal with the occasional eyesore and *gasp* may have to look at some less than “desirable” people (in your mind) walking down the street. That’s true in most of the country.
March 21, 2008 at 2:09 PM #174388hipmatt
ParticipantI assume that one of you works in SD. If this is the case, Temecula is a big mistake. Gas prices are much more likely to rise than to decline significantly. Can you afford $4.00 gas driving 120 miles per day, if so, you can probably afford to live in SD. Why spend over 2 hours of your day in a car? Is that the way you want to spend your day? That time could be used with family doing things together. I don’t know how you consider that a “reasonable commute”?
So many people are tempted to sacrifice their lifestyle by moving farther away, only to afford a big house. I don’t get this logic. A big house won’t make a better life. Prices are coming down everywhere. Including SD and OC. They have a lot farther to fall as well. You can rent, or buy a smaller home closer to where you work, and save time and money on gas.
I think Temecula is a good place for the right person/family. Move here if you like the area and what it has to offer. Don’t move here because it’s a “cheaper alternative”. Temecula is an exurb, a bedroom community, and a family community. It is not even a decent employment base. There are few “real jobs” here and most people who have corporate jobs commute. (many of them unhappily). This makes Temecula and the surrounding areas extremely vulnerable to gas inflation, or recession. There is plenty of downside to home prices yet to come.
The effects of the busting of the RE bubble are taking their tolls on many locals here, as this areas recent success was based SIGNIFICANTLY on construction, and RE finance and sales, etc. I know many people who would be glad to have a job at IN N OUT right now. This area had MANY people involved in construction, landscape, lending, painting, furniture sales, pool building, grading, plumbing, electrical. Now many of these people are making ends meat, and things have only just begun. Layoffs and job losses in the area will likely only get worse. Temecula can only sustain so many hair, nail, and tanning salons and when people have to choose between vanity and food, they will choose food(I hope anyways). You can see how its a ripple effect, and that this area has the potential for big problems. Most jobs are service sector, retail, food related, etc. Obviously there are teachers, police, fire, and the usual gov. jobs. A few years ago there were plenty of RE related things to do, but I personally don’t think we will see another RE bubble for at least 6 years. While Temecula has grown dramatically the past 15 years, most of the jobs here are small town jobs.
you said: My take: do the dropping prices mean that investors will snap up tract homes, turn them into rentals, thereby making some communities more vulnerable to crime and other misdeeds? .. possibly and likely. There is no shortage of either rentals of resale homes in Temecula. There is an over supply of homes in general up here if you ask me.
March 21, 2008 at 2:09 PM #174735hipmatt
ParticipantI assume that one of you works in SD. If this is the case, Temecula is a big mistake. Gas prices are much more likely to rise than to decline significantly. Can you afford $4.00 gas driving 120 miles per day, if so, you can probably afford to live in SD. Why spend over 2 hours of your day in a car? Is that the way you want to spend your day? That time could be used with family doing things together. I don’t know how you consider that a “reasonable commute”?
So many people are tempted to sacrifice their lifestyle by moving farther away, only to afford a big house. I don’t get this logic. A big house won’t make a better life. Prices are coming down everywhere. Including SD and OC. They have a lot farther to fall as well. You can rent, or buy a smaller home closer to where you work, and save time and money on gas.
I think Temecula is a good place for the right person/family. Move here if you like the area and what it has to offer. Don’t move here because it’s a “cheaper alternative”. Temecula is an exurb, a bedroom community, and a family community. It is not even a decent employment base. There are few “real jobs” here and most people who have corporate jobs commute. (many of them unhappily). This makes Temecula and the surrounding areas extremely vulnerable to gas inflation, or recession. There is plenty of downside to home prices yet to come.
The effects of the busting of the RE bubble are taking their tolls on many locals here, as this areas recent success was based SIGNIFICANTLY on construction, and RE finance and sales, etc. I know many people who would be glad to have a job at IN N OUT right now. This area had MANY people involved in construction, landscape, lending, painting, furniture sales, pool building, grading, plumbing, electrical. Now many of these people are making ends meat, and things have only just begun. Layoffs and job losses in the area will likely only get worse. Temecula can only sustain so many hair, nail, and tanning salons and when people have to choose between vanity and food, they will choose food(I hope anyways). You can see how its a ripple effect, and that this area has the potential for big problems. Most jobs are service sector, retail, food related, etc. Obviously there are teachers, police, fire, and the usual gov. jobs. A few years ago there were plenty of RE related things to do, but I personally don’t think we will see another RE bubble for at least 6 years. While Temecula has grown dramatically the past 15 years, most of the jobs here are small town jobs.
you said: My take: do the dropping prices mean that investors will snap up tract homes, turn them into rentals, thereby making some communities more vulnerable to crime and other misdeeds? .. possibly and likely. There is no shortage of either rentals of resale homes in Temecula. There is an over supply of homes in general up here if you ask me.
March 21, 2008 at 2:09 PM #174740hipmatt
ParticipantI assume that one of you works in SD. If this is the case, Temecula is a big mistake. Gas prices are much more likely to rise than to decline significantly. Can you afford $4.00 gas driving 120 miles per day, if so, you can probably afford to live in SD. Why spend over 2 hours of your day in a car? Is that the way you want to spend your day? That time could be used with family doing things together. I don’t know how you consider that a “reasonable commute”?
So many people are tempted to sacrifice their lifestyle by moving farther away, only to afford a big house. I don’t get this logic. A big house won’t make a better life. Prices are coming down everywhere. Including SD and OC. They have a lot farther to fall as well. You can rent, or buy a smaller home closer to where you work, and save time and money on gas.
I think Temecula is a good place for the right person/family. Move here if you like the area and what it has to offer. Don’t move here because it’s a “cheaper alternative”. Temecula is an exurb, a bedroom community, and a family community. It is not even a decent employment base. There are few “real jobs” here and most people who have corporate jobs commute. (many of them unhappily). This makes Temecula and the surrounding areas extremely vulnerable to gas inflation, or recession. There is plenty of downside to home prices yet to come.
The effects of the busting of the RE bubble are taking their tolls on many locals here, as this areas recent success was based SIGNIFICANTLY on construction, and RE finance and sales, etc. I know many people who would be glad to have a job at IN N OUT right now. This area had MANY people involved in construction, landscape, lending, painting, furniture sales, pool building, grading, plumbing, electrical. Now many of these people are making ends meat, and things have only just begun. Layoffs and job losses in the area will likely only get worse. Temecula can only sustain so many hair, nail, and tanning salons and when people have to choose between vanity and food, they will choose food(I hope anyways). You can see how its a ripple effect, and that this area has the potential for big problems. Most jobs are service sector, retail, food related, etc. Obviously there are teachers, police, fire, and the usual gov. jobs. A few years ago there were plenty of RE related things to do, but I personally don’t think we will see another RE bubble for at least 6 years. While Temecula has grown dramatically the past 15 years, most of the jobs here are small town jobs.
you said: My take: do the dropping prices mean that investors will snap up tract homes, turn them into rentals, thereby making some communities more vulnerable to crime and other misdeeds? .. possibly and likely. There is no shortage of either rentals of resale homes in Temecula. There is an over supply of homes in general up here if you ask me.
March 21, 2008 at 2:09 PM #174747hipmatt
ParticipantI assume that one of you works in SD. If this is the case, Temecula is a big mistake. Gas prices are much more likely to rise than to decline significantly. Can you afford $4.00 gas driving 120 miles per day, if so, you can probably afford to live in SD. Why spend over 2 hours of your day in a car? Is that the way you want to spend your day? That time could be used with family doing things together. I don’t know how you consider that a “reasonable commute”?
So many people are tempted to sacrifice their lifestyle by moving farther away, only to afford a big house. I don’t get this logic. A big house won’t make a better life. Prices are coming down everywhere. Including SD and OC. They have a lot farther to fall as well. You can rent, or buy a smaller home closer to where you work, and save time and money on gas.
I think Temecula is a good place for the right person/family. Move here if you like the area and what it has to offer. Don’t move here because it’s a “cheaper alternative”. Temecula is an exurb, a bedroom community, and a family community. It is not even a decent employment base. There are few “real jobs” here and most people who have corporate jobs commute. (many of them unhappily). This makes Temecula and the surrounding areas extremely vulnerable to gas inflation, or recession. There is plenty of downside to home prices yet to come.
The effects of the busting of the RE bubble are taking their tolls on many locals here, as this areas recent success was based SIGNIFICANTLY on construction, and RE finance and sales, etc. I know many people who would be glad to have a job at IN N OUT right now. This area had MANY people involved in construction, landscape, lending, painting, furniture sales, pool building, grading, plumbing, electrical. Now many of these people are making ends meat, and things have only just begun. Layoffs and job losses in the area will likely only get worse. Temecula can only sustain so many hair, nail, and tanning salons and when people have to choose between vanity and food, they will choose food(I hope anyways). You can see how its a ripple effect, and that this area has the potential for big problems. Most jobs are service sector, retail, food related, etc. Obviously there are teachers, police, fire, and the usual gov. jobs. A few years ago there were plenty of RE related things to do, but I personally don’t think we will see another RE bubble for at least 6 years. While Temecula has grown dramatically the past 15 years, most of the jobs here are small town jobs.
you said: My take: do the dropping prices mean that investors will snap up tract homes, turn them into rentals, thereby making some communities more vulnerable to crime and other misdeeds? .. possibly and likely. There is no shortage of either rentals of resale homes in Temecula. There is an over supply of homes in general up here if you ask me.
March 21, 2008 at 2:09 PM #174832hipmatt
ParticipantI assume that one of you works in SD. If this is the case, Temecula is a big mistake. Gas prices are much more likely to rise than to decline significantly. Can you afford $4.00 gas driving 120 miles per day, if so, you can probably afford to live in SD. Why spend over 2 hours of your day in a car? Is that the way you want to spend your day? That time could be used with family doing things together. I don’t know how you consider that a “reasonable commute”?
So many people are tempted to sacrifice their lifestyle by moving farther away, only to afford a big house. I don’t get this logic. A big house won’t make a better life. Prices are coming down everywhere. Including SD and OC. They have a lot farther to fall as well. You can rent, or buy a smaller home closer to where you work, and save time and money on gas.
I think Temecula is a good place for the right person/family. Move here if you like the area and what it has to offer. Don’t move here because it’s a “cheaper alternative”. Temecula is an exurb, a bedroom community, and a family community. It is not even a decent employment base. There are few “real jobs” here and most people who have corporate jobs commute. (many of them unhappily). This makes Temecula and the surrounding areas extremely vulnerable to gas inflation, or recession. There is plenty of downside to home prices yet to come.
The effects of the busting of the RE bubble are taking their tolls on many locals here, as this areas recent success was based SIGNIFICANTLY on construction, and RE finance and sales, etc. I know many people who would be glad to have a job at IN N OUT right now. This area had MANY people involved in construction, landscape, lending, painting, furniture sales, pool building, grading, plumbing, electrical. Now many of these people are making ends meat, and things have only just begun. Layoffs and job losses in the area will likely only get worse. Temecula can only sustain so many hair, nail, and tanning salons and when people have to choose between vanity and food, they will choose food(I hope anyways). You can see how its a ripple effect, and that this area has the potential for big problems. Most jobs are service sector, retail, food related, etc. Obviously there are teachers, police, fire, and the usual gov. jobs. A few years ago there were plenty of RE related things to do, but I personally don’t think we will see another RE bubble for at least 6 years. While Temecula has grown dramatically the past 15 years, most of the jobs here are small town jobs.
you said: My take: do the dropping prices mean that investors will snap up tract homes, turn them into rentals, thereby making some communities more vulnerable to crime and other misdeeds? .. possibly and likely. There is no shortage of either rentals of resale homes in Temecula. There is an over supply of homes in general up here if you ask me.
March 21, 2008 at 2:20 PM #174394temeculaguy
Participantdharma, the answer to the question is wait on both ideas. The North County has only just started it’s decline and Temecula still has some more falling to do (check foreclosure.com there are 10 NOD’s a day and probably only one sale per day). Wait till it hits bottom and then you will have your question answered, for 2008, rent, even if it means moving again. Why ride out the bad years, be a buyer in them. Moving isn’t going to kill you. Search older posts, look for those started by someone with the moniker 23109, you are the new version of him. He showed up after his landlord tried to sell him his rental, started a new thread every day, rationalized his decision to buy based on three weeks of research and questions and low and behold…he was back here just a few months ago trying to figure out a way to walk away from his house to buy a bigger one for less nearby.
Will some of Temecula’s demographics go down, lower prices and rentals don’t justify it alone. The buyers from 2003-2006 were demographically renters anyway, all you needed was a pulse to buy. At half the price, less people can buy now because they actually have to afford it, be able to prove it and have a down payment (this is why prices are declining, those people cannot buy any longer) if they rent the same house, did the neighborhood change? There are areas neigborhoods that attract different types of people and certain housing styles do the same. High square footage but low bedroom counts, gated areas, HOA areas are my personal favorites for defensive tactics, but you first need to decide what it is you are hoping to avoid, you could be someone that i don’t want to live near and vice versa.
One argument in your husband’s favor, if you think fleeing to shadowridge to find better demographics you haven’t sone your research. Check Sandag for crime and demographic stats, education websites for school scores, you will find that even in the nice part of Vista, the numbers are far below Temec. SEH is another story, it will be higher.
March 21, 2008 at 2:20 PM #174739temeculaguy
Participantdharma, the answer to the question is wait on both ideas. The North County has only just started it’s decline and Temecula still has some more falling to do (check foreclosure.com there are 10 NOD’s a day and probably only one sale per day). Wait till it hits bottom and then you will have your question answered, for 2008, rent, even if it means moving again. Why ride out the bad years, be a buyer in them. Moving isn’t going to kill you. Search older posts, look for those started by someone with the moniker 23109, you are the new version of him. He showed up after his landlord tried to sell him his rental, started a new thread every day, rationalized his decision to buy based on three weeks of research and questions and low and behold…he was back here just a few months ago trying to figure out a way to walk away from his house to buy a bigger one for less nearby.
Will some of Temecula’s demographics go down, lower prices and rentals don’t justify it alone. The buyers from 2003-2006 were demographically renters anyway, all you needed was a pulse to buy. At half the price, less people can buy now because they actually have to afford it, be able to prove it and have a down payment (this is why prices are declining, those people cannot buy any longer) if they rent the same house, did the neighborhood change? There are areas neigborhoods that attract different types of people and certain housing styles do the same. High square footage but low bedroom counts, gated areas, HOA areas are my personal favorites for defensive tactics, but you first need to decide what it is you are hoping to avoid, you could be someone that i don’t want to live near and vice versa.
One argument in your husband’s favor, if you think fleeing to shadowridge to find better demographics you haven’t sone your research. Check Sandag for crime and demographic stats, education websites for school scores, you will find that even in the nice part of Vista, the numbers are far below Temec. SEH is another story, it will be higher.
March 21, 2008 at 2:20 PM #174744temeculaguy
Participantdharma, the answer to the question is wait on both ideas. The North County has only just started it’s decline and Temecula still has some more falling to do (check foreclosure.com there are 10 NOD’s a day and probably only one sale per day). Wait till it hits bottom and then you will have your question answered, for 2008, rent, even if it means moving again. Why ride out the bad years, be a buyer in them. Moving isn’t going to kill you. Search older posts, look for those started by someone with the moniker 23109, you are the new version of him. He showed up after his landlord tried to sell him his rental, started a new thread every day, rationalized his decision to buy based on three weeks of research and questions and low and behold…he was back here just a few months ago trying to figure out a way to walk away from his house to buy a bigger one for less nearby.
Will some of Temecula’s demographics go down, lower prices and rentals don’t justify it alone. The buyers from 2003-2006 were demographically renters anyway, all you needed was a pulse to buy. At half the price, less people can buy now because they actually have to afford it, be able to prove it and have a down payment (this is why prices are declining, those people cannot buy any longer) if they rent the same house, did the neighborhood change? There are areas neigborhoods that attract different types of people and certain housing styles do the same. High square footage but low bedroom counts, gated areas, HOA areas are my personal favorites for defensive tactics, but you first need to decide what it is you are hoping to avoid, you could be someone that i don’t want to live near and vice versa.
One argument in your husband’s favor, if you think fleeing to shadowridge to find better demographics you haven’t sone your research. Check Sandag for crime and demographic stats, education websites for school scores, you will find that even in the nice part of Vista, the numbers are far below Temec. SEH is another story, it will be higher.
March 21, 2008 at 2:20 PM #174753temeculaguy
Participantdharma, the answer to the question is wait on both ideas. The North County has only just started it’s decline and Temecula still has some more falling to do (check foreclosure.com there are 10 NOD’s a day and probably only one sale per day). Wait till it hits bottom and then you will have your question answered, for 2008, rent, even if it means moving again. Why ride out the bad years, be a buyer in them. Moving isn’t going to kill you. Search older posts, look for those started by someone with the moniker 23109, you are the new version of him. He showed up after his landlord tried to sell him his rental, started a new thread every day, rationalized his decision to buy based on three weeks of research and questions and low and behold…he was back here just a few months ago trying to figure out a way to walk away from his house to buy a bigger one for less nearby.
Will some of Temecula’s demographics go down, lower prices and rentals don’t justify it alone. The buyers from 2003-2006 were demographically renters anyway, all you needed was a pulse to buy. At half the price, less people can buy now because they actually have to afford it, be able to prove it and have a down payment (this is why prices are declining, those people cannot buy any longer) if they rent the same house, did the neighborhood change? There are areas neigborhoods that attract different types of people and certain housing styles do the same. High square footage but low bedroom counts, gated areas, HOA areas are my personal favorites for defensive tactics, but you first need to decide what it is you are hoping to avoid, you could be someone that i don’t want to live near and vice versa.
One argument in your husband’s favor, if you think fleeing to shadowridge to find better demographics you haven’t sone your research. Check Sandag for crime and demographic stats, education websites for school scores, you will find that even in the nice part of Vista, the numbers are far below Temec. SEH is another story, it will be higher.
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