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Costa, I wasn’t blaming anyone, I was venting frustration. It’s not the time to point fingers in blame, rather, point in a new direction. One that makes sense on a number of levels, solves many problems at the same time and is now at a point when something dramatic can and should happen. Who remembers Schoolhouse Rock and it’s “necessity is the mother of invention” episode.

It’s a problem, it needs to be solved, it needs to be solved in a short period of time and sometimes radical means are needed. Is there another General Leslie R. Groves out there right now? Who is he TG? I’ll tell you. He was the guy in charge of the manhattan project, he had a problem, WWII sucked and losing would suck even more. He needed smart guys, but smart guys are sometimes unstable guys. He needed Oppenheimer, but Opie was a borderline communist, a wild eyed leftist and was considered a security risk. Groves found his scrotum, took a chance and science changed. Granted, innocent people died, lots of them. Many of us old enough to remember were a part of nuclear attack drills in school, they caused our world to change. This problem should be easier to tackle, it should be a cakewalk compared to getting radical left wing scientists to make weapons of mass destruction. We don’t even need a man half as tough as Groves or half as smart as Opie, because this problem has no downside, no moral dilemma. Schoolkids wont be doing “high mpg” drills and having bad dreams for decades after.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Oppenheimer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Groves

General Groves was the Phil Jackson of the 1940’s, somewhere, right now, a version of Groves and Oppenheimer exists and can I just get an amen brother, that we need to find those guys and put them in charge of the taxpayer owned car companies, TODAY. If it means employing hippies, wackos or commies, I don’t give two shits, the oppenheimer of alternative fuel is out there, find him, beat him over the head, threaten him and then lock him in a room until I get 360 mpg’s, is that too much to ask?

[temeculaguy]

Costa, I wasn’t blaming anyone, I was venting frustration. It’s not the time to point fingers in blame, rather, point in a new direction. One that makes sense on a number of levels, solves many problems at the same time and is now at a point when something dramatic can and should happen. Who remembers Schoolhouse Rock and it’s “necessity is the mother of invention” episode.

It’s a problem, it needs to be solved, it needs to be solved in a short period of time and sometimes radical means are needed. Is there another General Leslie R. Groves out there right now? Who is he TG? I’ll tell you. He was the guy in charge of the manhattan project, he had a problem, WWII sucked and losing would suck even more. He needed smart guys, but smart guys are sometimes unstable guys. He needed Oppenheimer, but Opie was a borderline communist, a wild eyed leftist and was considered a security risk. Groves found his scrotum, took a chance and science changed. Granted, innocent people died, lots of them. Many of us old enough to remember were a part of nuclear attack drills in school, they caused our world to change. This problem should be easier to tackle, it should be a cakewalk compared to getting radical left wing scientists to make weapons of mass destruction. We don’t even need a man half as tough as Groves or half as smart as Opie, because this problem has no downside, no moral dilemma. Schoolkids wont be doing “high mpg” drills and having bad dreams for decades after.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Oppenheimer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Groves

General Groves was the Phil Jackson of the 1940’s, somewhere, right now, a version of Groves and Oppenheimer exists and can I just get an amen brother, that we need to find those guys and put them in charge of the taxpayer owned car companies, TODAY. If it means employing hippies, wackos or commies, I don’t give two shits, the oppenheimer of alternative fuel is out there, find him, beat him over the head, threaten him and then lock him in a room until I get 360 mpg’s, is that too much to ask?

[temeculaguy]

Costa, I wasn’t blaming anyone, I was venting frustration. It’s not the time to point fingers in blame, rather, point in a new direction. One that makes sense on a number of levels, solves many problems at the same time and is now at a point when something dramatic can and should happen. Who remembers Schoolhouse Rock and it’s “necessity is the mother of invention” episode.

It’s a problem, it needs to be solved, it needs to be solved in a short period of time and sometimes radical means are needed. Is there another General Leslie R. Groves out there right now? Who is he TG? I’ll tell you. He was the guy in charge of the manhattan project, he had a problem, WWII sucked and losing would suck even more. He needed smart guys, but smart guys are sometimes unstable guys. He needed Oppenheimer, but Opie was a borderline communist, a wild eyed leftist and was considered a security risk. Groves found his scrotum, took a chance and science changed. Granted, innocent people died, lots of them. Many of us old enough to remember were a part of nuclear attack drills in school, they caused our world to change. This problem should be easier to tackle, it should be a cakewalk compared to getting radical left wing scientists to make weapons of mass destruction. We don’t even need a man half as tough as Groves or half as smart as Opie, because this problem has no downside, no moral dilemma. Schoolkids wont be doing “high mpg” drills and having bad dreams for decades after.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Oppenheimer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Groves

General Groves was the Phil Jackson of the 1940’s, somewhere, right now, a version of Groves and Oppenheimer exists and can I just get an amen brother, that we need to find those guys and put them in charge of the taxpayer owned car companies, TODAY. If it means employing hippies, wackos or commies, I don’t give two shits, the oppenheimer of alternative fuel is out there, find him, beat him over the head, threaten him and then lock him in a room until I get 360 mpg’s, is that too much to ask?

[temeculaguy]

Costa, I wasn’t blaming anyone, I was venting frustration. It’s not the time to point fingers in blame, rather, point in a new direction. One that makes sense on a number of levels, solves many problems at the same time and is now at a point when something dramatic can and should happen. Who remembers Schoolhouse Rock and it’s “necessity is the mother of invention” episode.

It’s a problem, it needs to be solved, it needs to be solved in a short period of time and sometimes radical means are needed. Is there another General Leslie R. Groves out there right now? Who is he TG? I’ll tell you. He was the guy in charge of the manhattan project, he had a problem, WWII sucked and losing would suck even more. He needed smart guys, but smart guys are sometimes unstable guys. He needed Oppenheimer, but Opie was a borderline communist, a wild eyed leftist and was considered a security risk. Groves found his scrotum, took a chance and science changed. Granted, innocent people died, lots of them. Many of us old enough to remember were a part of nuclear attack drills in school, they caused our world to change. This problem should be easier to tackle, it should be a cakewalk compared to getting radical left wing scientists to make weapons of mass destruction. We don’t even need a man half as tough as Groves or half as smart as Opie, because this problem has no downside, no moral dilemma. Schoolkids wont be doing “high mpg” drills and having bad dreams for decades after.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Oppenheimer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Groves

General Groves was the Phil Jackson of the 1940’s, somewhere, right now, a version of Groves and Oppenheimer exists and can I just get an amen brother, that we need to find those guys and put them in charge of the taxpayer owned car companies, TODAY. If it means employing hippies, wackos or commies, I don’t give two shits, the oppenheimer of alternative fuel is out there, find him, beat him over the head, threaten him and then lock him in a room until I get 360 mpg’s, is that too much to ask?

[temeculaguy]

[quote=briansd1][quote=threadkiller]they do make sense for Postal workers, guards and others that walk a lot in their jobs. [/quote]

What’s wrong with walking?

We can save energy simply by living closer together and walk like the Europeans do.

[/quote]

Because it’s in our blood to like space. Many of our ancestors came from close proximity countries, they came here because they were the odd duck and wanted space. The Europe you referenced is where many Americans came from a few generations ago, lured by open space, of those that did come, the ones that wanted even more space ventured West, Darwinism is in full effect, we probably have a gene that makes us like our space. I’ve never understood country music, I think it’s popularity is a direct result of that same gene mutating somehow. Think about it, we are probably the only people in the world who will drive five miles in perfect weather to a gym, so we can run or walk five miles on a treadmill, then drive home. So instead of trying to change our genetic makeup, lets figure out a better fuel source. Now that we own the automakers as taxpayers, why can’t we demand innovation, tranfer some people from NASA and bring in Steve Jobs as the ceo for GM, let him bring as many hippies as he wants, mix in a few hundred engineers from different countries, walks of life and areas of expertise. Then bring in Phil Jackson and Mitch Kupchek of the Lakers as VP’s, they are the most skilled men in the country at identifying, assembling and leading talent. The problem here is that we have not identified the blueprint, but one only has to rent the movie “The Dirty Dozen” to see how to assemble an effective team to solve a difficult problem.

And no, I’m not living next to hobos and I’m not walking everywhere, go back to the drawing board and bring me something else.

[temeculaguy]

[quote=briansd1][quote=threadkiller]they do make sense for Postal workers, guards and others that walk a lot in their jobs. [/quote]

What’s wrong with walking?

We can save energy simply by living closer together and walk like the Europeans do.

[/quote]

Because it’s in our blood to like space. Many of our ancestors came from close proximity countries, they came here because they were the odd duck and wanted space. The Europe you referenced is where many Americans came from a few generations ago, lured by open space, of those that did come, the ones that wanted even more space ventured West, Darwinism is in full effect, we probably have a gene that makes us like our space. I’ve never understood country music, I think it’s popularity is a direct result of that same gene mutating somehow. Think about it, we are probably the only people in the world who will drive five miles in perfect weather to a gym, so we can run or walk five miles on a treadmill, then drive home. So instead of trying to change our genetic makeup, lets figure out a better fuel source. Now that we own the automakers as taxpayers, why can’t we demand innovation, tranfer some people from NASA and bring in Steve Jobs as the ceo for GM, let him bring as many hippies as he wants, mix in a few hundred engineers from different countries, walks of life and areas of expertise. Then bring in Phil Jackson and Mitch Kupchek of the Lakers as VP’s, they are the most skilled men in the country at identifying, assembling and leading talent. The problem here is that we have not identified the blueprint, but one only has to rent the movie “The Dirty Dozen” to see how to assemble an effective team to solve a difficult problem.

And no, I’m not living next to hobos and I’m not walking everywhere, go back to the drawing board and bring me something else.

[temeculaguy]

[quote=briansd1][quote=threadkiller]they do make sense for Postal workers, guards and others that walk a lot in their jobs. [/quote]

What’s wrong with walking?

We can save energy simply by living closer together and walk like the Europeans do.

[/quote]

Because it’s in our blood to like space. Many of our ancestors came from close proximity countries, they came here because they were the odd duck and wanted space. The Europe you referenced is where many Americans came from a few generations ago, lured by open space, of those that did come, the ones that wanted even more space ventured West, Darwinism is in full effect, we probably have a gene that makes us like our space. I’ve never understood country music, I think it’s popularity is a direct result of that same gene mutating somehow. Think about it, we are probably the only people in the world who will drive five miles in perfect weather to a gym, so we can run or walk five miles on a treadmill, then drive home. So instead of trying to change our genetic makeup, lets figure out a better fuel source. Now that we own the automakers as taxpayers, why can’t we demand innovation, tranfer some people from NASA and bring in Steve Jobs as the ceo for GM, let him bring as many hippies as he wants, mix in a few hundred engineers from different countries, walks of life and areas of expertise. Then bring in Phil Jackson and Mitch Kupchek of the Lakers as VP’s, they are the most skilled men in the country at identifying, assembling and leading talent. The problem here is that we have not identified the blueprint, but one only has to rent the movie “The Dirty Dozen” to see how to assemble an effective team to solve a difficult problem.

And no, I’m not living next to hobos and I’m not walking everywhere, go back to the drawing board and bring me something else.

[temeculaguy]

[quote=briansd1][quote=threadkiller]they do make sense for Postal workers, guards and others that walk a lot in their jobs. [/quote]

What’s wrong with walking?

We can save energy simply by living closer together and walk like the Europeans do.

[/quote]

Because it’s in our blood to like space. Many of our ancestors came from close proximity countries, they came here because they were the odd duck and wanted space. The Europe you referenced is where many Americans came from a few generations ago, lured by open space, of those that did come, the ones that wanted even more space ventured West, Darwinism is in full effect, we probably have a gene that makes us like our space. I’ve never understood country music, I think it’s popularity is a direct result of that same gene mutating somehow. Think about it, we are probably the only people in the world who will drive five miles in perfect weather to a gym, so we can run or walk five miles on a treadmill, then drive home. So instead of trying to change our genetic makeup, lets figure out a better fuel source. Now that we own the automakers as taxpayers, why can’t we demand innovation, tranfer some people from NASA and bring in Steve Jobs as the ceo for GM, let him bring as many hippies as he wants, mix in a few hundred engineers from different countries, walks of life and areas of expertise. Then bring in Phil Jackson and Mitch Kupchek of the Lakers as VP’s, they are the most skilled men in the country at identifying, assembling and leading talent. The problem here is that we have not identified the blueprint, but one only has to rent the movie “The Dirty Dozen” to see how to assemble an effective team to solve a difficult problem.

And no, I’m not living next to hobos and I’m not walking everywhere, go back to the drawing board and bring me something else.

[temeculaguy]

[quote=briansd1][quote=threadkiller]they do make sense for Postal workers, guards and others that walk a lot in their jobs. [/quote]

What’s wrong with walking?

We can save energy simply by living closer together and walk like the Europeans do.

[/quote]

Because it’s in our blood to like space. Many of our ancestors came from close proximity countries, they came here because they were the odd duck and wanted space. The Europe you referenced is where many Americans came from a few generations ago, lured by open space, of those that did come, the ones that wanted even more space ventured West, Darwinism is in full effect, we probably have a gene that makes us like our space. I’ve never understood country music, I think it’s popularity is a direct result of that same gene mutating somehow. Think about it, we are probably the only people in the world who will drive five miles in perfect weather to a gym, so we can run or walk five miles on a treadmill, then drive home. So instead of trying to change our genetic makeup, lets figure out a better fuel source. Now that we own the automakers as taxpayers, why can’t we demand innovation, tranfer some people from NASA and bring in Steve Jobs as the ceo for GM, let him bring as many hippies as he wants, mix in a few hundred engineers from different countries, walks of life and areas of expertise. Then bring in Phil Jackson and Mitch Kupchek of the Lakers as VP’s, they are the most skilled men in the country at identifying, assembling and leading talent. The problem here is that we have not identified the blueprint, but one only has to rent the movie “The Dirty Dozen” to see how to assemble an effective team to solve a difficult problem.

And no, I’m not living next to hobos and I’m not walking everywhere, go back to the drawing board and bring me something else.

[temeculaguy]

aldante, I feel for you brother. I wonder if Carlsbad will ever suffer the same fate as other areas, it is suprisingly resistant. Here we are, quite a ways into this thing and it’s still hanging in there, with probably quite a few buyers anxiously awaiting those empty properties, however many there are. It’s gonna take some patience and a little luck since you are waiting for the pain train at one of it’s last scheduled stops. Personally I would have gotten out the map by now and looked elsewhere. Then again, 20 years ago, I was living probably within a few miles of where you are now and I gave up and moved. The market and the economy have had a few ups and downs in those twenty years and had i stayed, I’d still be waiting. Are prices there at 2003 prices? Any sign of 2002 or 2001 numbers? I don’t follow that market, but if they get to prices for those houses in terms of those years, jump on it, because at the end of the day, out of the 2.5 million people in the county, probably 2.4 million would live there if they could afford it, when they can they will.

[temeculaguy]

aldante, I feel for you brother. I wonder if Carlsbad will ever suffer the same fate as other areas, it is suprisingly resistant. Here we are, quite a ways into this thing and it’s still hanging in there, with probably quite a few buyers anxiously awaiting those empty properties, however many there are. It’s gonna take some patience and a little luck since you are waiting for the pain train at one of it’s last scheduled stops. Personally I would have gotten out the map by now and looked elsewhere. Then again, 20 years ago, I was living probably within a few miles of where you are now and I gave up and moved. The market and the economy have had a few ups and downs in those twenty years and had i stayed, I’d still be waiting. Are prices there at 2003 prices? Any sign of 2002 or 2001 numbers? I don’t follow that market, but if they get to prices for those houses in terms of those years, jump on it, because at the end of the day, out of the 2.5 million people in the county, probably 2.4 million would live there if they could afford it, when they can they will.

[temeculaguy]

aldante, I feel for you brother. I wonder if Carlsbad will ever suffer the same fate as other areas, it is suprisingly resistant. Here we are, quite a ways into this thing and it’s still hanging in there, with probably quite a few buyers anxiously awaiting those empty properties, however many there are. It’s gonna take some patience and a little luck since you are waiting for the pain train at one of it’s last scheduled stops. Personally I would have gotten out the map by now and looked elsewhere. Then again, 20 years ago, I was living probably within a few miles of where you are now and I gave up and moved. The market and the economy have had a few ups and downs in those twenty years and had i stayed, I’d still be waiting. Are prices there at 2003 prices? Any sign of 2002 or 2001 numbers? I don’t follow that market, but if they get to prices for those houses in terms of those years, jump on it, because at the end of the day, out of the 2.5 million people in the county, probably 2.4 million would live there if they could afford it, when they can they will.

[temeculaguy]

aldante, I feel for you brother. I wonder if Carlsbad will ever suffer the same fate as other areas, it is suprisingly resistant. Here we are, quite a ways into this thing and it’s still hanging in there, with probably quite a few buyers anxiously awaiting those empty properties, however many there are. It’s gonna take some patience and a little luck since you are waiting for the pain train at one of it’s last scheduled stops. Personally I would have gotten out the map by now and looked elsewhere. Then again, 20 years ago, I was living probably within a few miles of where you are now and I gave up and moved. The market and the economy have had a few ups and downs in those twenty years and had i stayed, I’d still be waiting. Are prices there at 2003 prices? Any sign of 2002 or 2001 numbers? I don’t follow that market, but if they get to prices for those houses in terms of those years, jump on it, because at the end of the day, out of the 2.5 million people in the county, probably 2.4 million would live there if they could afford it, when they can they will.

[temeculaguy]

aldante, I feel for you brother. I wonder if Carlsbad will ever suffer the same fate as other areas, it is suprisingly resistant. Here we are, quite a ways into this thing and it’s still hanging in there, with probably quite a few buyers anxiously awaiting those empty properties, however many there are. It’s gonna take some patience and a little luck since you are waiting for the pain train at one of it’s last scheduled stops. Personally I would have gotten out the map by now and looked elsewhere. Then again, 20 years ago, I was living probably within a few miles of where you are now and I gave up and moved. The market and the economy have had a few ups and downs in those twenty years and had i stayed, I’d still be waiting. Are prices there at 2003 prices? Any sign of 2002 or 2001 numbers? I don’t follow that market, but if they get to prices for those houses in terms of those years, jump on it, because at the end of the day, out of the 2.5 million people in the county, probably 2.4 million would live there if they could afford it, when they can they will.

[temeculaguy]

The first sentence says that 84 bil was due to reduced purchase originations, the rest (616 bln) is refi’s. The article is mostly about fewer refi’s in the 5’s, ratewise. I’m not sure if 84 bln lower purcahse originations is the indicator to determine the buying, number of units sold is a better index because houses purchased now cost less, in many cases, a lot less, so less will be borrowed. I also think todays buyer is probably biting off less than they can chew as opposed to two years ago, partially due to lower prices and partially due to marcoeconmic uncertainty.

I guess I have been one those who mentions buying activity, but I’m not a realtor, just a potential landlord shopping the market for a cheap rental, I’m not making this stuff up, there are people buying real estate right now, lots of them, it would be easier for me if they weren’t, but they are. Inventory, number of sales, number of offers, days on market, these are metrics to determine activity, loan originations can be a factor but it’s a smaller indicator and the large refi percentage clouds it so you have to seperate the data.

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