OT: Hydrogen car debuts in London 360 MPG

[temeculaguy]

Two years ago I was in love with the Tesla, thought I’d be seeing copy cats by now, but to no avail. Since we have more than our share of engineers and gearheads here, what are your thoughts on Riversimple. $315 lease that includes fuel, that is a nice business model, at under 800 lbs it might have safety approval issues but then again, seems safer than a motorcycle.

In a couple of years, this whole worldwide economic thing will be over and the issues of emerging countries using more oil will rear it’s head again, since were pissing money away on automakers left and right, why can’t they make these work and be mass produced? If the bailout gets us out of the oil importing habit, it will end up worth it on a number of levels. I have a hard time figuring out why every nickel of bailout cash isn’t being spent on 360 mph cars. Think of it, we wont have to trasfer as much wealth out of the country, the air will be cleaner, people will have more $ in their pockets, terrorists will lose their funding source and be back to throwing rocks, we will get in fewer wars, the list goes on. I don’t want universal health care, I want 360 mpg! I want an iCar from apple.

http://nctimes.com/articles/2009/06/25/science/ze3ae7f1fd1a5f7d0882575d90008ee5c.txt

[Eugene]

Generally speaking, hydrogen is less efficient as a store of energy than lithium-ion batteries. If you want maximum possible fuel efficiency, it has to be battery powered, not fuel cell.

Freeway fuel efficiency depends, in large part, on aerodynamics. I don’t have their specs, but just the fact that they use side-by-side seating, means that their cross section is comparable with Tesla.

If you scale that car to the point where it can go 85 mph, it will get heavier, more expensive, and less efficient. There’s no reason for it to be more economical than Tesla or Aptera.

[Eugene]

Generally speaking, hydrogen is less efficient as a store of energy than lithium-ion batteries. If you want maximum possible fuel efficiency, it has to be battery powered, not fuel cell.

Freeway fuel efficiency depends, in large part, on aerodynamics. I don’t have their specs, but just the fact that they use side-by-side seating, means that their cross section is comparable with Tesla.

If you scale that car to the point where it can go 85 mph, it will get heavier, more expensive, and less efficient. There’s no reason for it to be more economical than Tesla or Aptera.

[Eugene]

Generally speaking, hydrogen is less efficient as a store of energy than lithium-ion batteries. If you want maximum possible fuel efficiency, it has to be battery powered, not fuel cell.

Freeway fuel efficiency depends, in large part, on aerodynamics. I don’t have their specs, but just the fact that they use side-by-side seating, means that their cross section is comparable with Tesla.

If you scale that car to the point where it can go 85 mph, it will get heavier, more expensive, and less efficient. There’s no reason for it to be more economical than Tesla or Aptera.

[Eugene]

Generally speaking, hydrogen is less efficient as a store of energy than lithium-ion batteries. If you want maximum possible fuel efficiency, it has to be battery powered, not fuel cell.

Freeway fuel efficiency depends, in large part, on aerodynamics. I don’t have their specs, but just the fact that they use side-by-side seating, means that their cross section is comparable with Tesla.

If you scale that car to the point where it can go 85 mph, it will get heavier, more expensive, and less efficient. There’s no reason for it to be more economical than Tesla or Aptera.

[Eugene]

Generally speaking, hydrogen is less efficient as a store of energy than lithium-ion batteries. If you want maximum possible fuel efficiency, it has to be battery powered, not fuel cell.

Freeway fuel efficiency depends, in large part, on aerodynamics. I don’t have their specs, but just the fact that they use side-by-side seating, means that their cross section is comparable with Tesla.

If you scale that car to the point where it can go 85 mph, it will get heavier, more expensive, and less efficient. There’s no reason for it to be more economical than Tesla or Aptera.

[Anonymous]

The only EV car in production for some years: http://www.revaindia.com

Though it is on the other end of the scale, compared to Tesla 🙂

[Anonymous]

The only EV car in production for some years: http://www.revaindia.com

Though it is on the other end of the scale, compared to Tesla 🙂

[Anonymous]

The only EV car in production for some years: http://www.revaindia.com

Though it is on the other end of the scale, compared to Tesla 🙂

[Anonymous]

The only EV car in production for some years: http://www.revaindia.com

Though it is on the other end of the scale, compared to Tesla 🙂

[Anonymous]

The only EV car in production for some years: http://www.revaindia.com

Though it is on the other end of the scale, compared to Tesla 🙂

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

[quote=temeculaguy]Two Think of it, we wont have to trasfer as much wealth out of the country, the air will be cleaner, people will have more $ in their pockets, terrorists will lose their funding source and be back to throwing rocks, we will get in fewer wars, the list goes on. I don’t want universal health care, I want 360 mpg! I want an iCar from apple.

http://nctimes.com/articles/2009/06/25/science/ze3ae7f1fd1a5f7d0882575d90008ee5c.txt%5B/quote%5D

I agree,

I think we should start to see these EV’s and 100+mpg cars hitting the market in 2010, they will be expensive and unreliable for the first 5 or so years then they will get much better and more practical very quickly IMO .

The ICE and OPEC will be relics of a bygone era in 10-15 years.

Seems like a long time but the world is about to be changed (for the better) in a very radical way.

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

[quote=temeculaguy]Two Think of it, we wont have to trasfer as much wealth out of the country, the air will be cleaner, people will have more $ in their pockets, terrorists will lose their funding source and be back to throwing rocks, we will get in fewer wars, the list goes on. I don’t want universal health care, I want 360 mpg! I want an iCar from apple.

http://nctimes.com/articles/2009/06/25/science/ze3ae7f1fd1a5f7d0882575d90008ee5c.txt%5B/quote%5D

I agree,

I think we should start to see these EV’s and 100+mpg cars hitting the market in 2010, they will be expensive and unreliable for the first 5 or so years then they will get much better and more practical very quickly IMO .

The ICE and OPEC will be relics of a bygone era in 10-15 years.

Seems like a long time but the world is about to be changed (for the better) in a very radical way.

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

[quote=temeculaguy]Two Think of it, we wont have to trasfer as much wealth out of the country, the air will be cleaner, people will have more $ in their pockets, terrorists will lose their funding source and be back to throwing rocks, we will get in fewer wars, the list goes on. I don’t want universal health care, I want 360 mpg! I want an iCar from apple.

http://nctimes.com/articles/2009/06/25/science/ze3ae7f1fd1a5f7d0882575d90008ee5c.txt%5B/quote%5D

I agree,

I think we should start to see these EV’s and 100+mpg cars hitting the market in 2010, they will be expensive and unreliable for the first 5 or so years then they will get much better and more practical very quickly IMO .

The ICE and OPEC will be relics of a bygone era in 10-15 years.

Seems like a long time but the world is about to be changed (for the better) in a very radical way.

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

[quote=temeculaguy]Two Think of it, we wont have to trasfer as much wealth out of the country, the air will be cleaner, people will have more $ in their pockets, terrorists will lose their funding source and be back to throwing rocks, we will get in fewer wars, the list goes on. I don’t want universal health care, I want 360 mpg! I want an iCar from apple.

http://nctimes.com/articles/2009/06/25/science/ze3ae7f1fd1a5f7d0882575d90008ee5c.txt%5B/quote%5D

I agree,

I think we should start to see these EV’s and 100+mpg cars hitting the market in 2010, they will be expensive and unreliable for the first 5 or so years then they will get much better and more practical very quickly IMO .

The ICE and OPEC will be relics of a bygone era in 10-15 years.

Seems like a long time but the world is about to be changed (for the better) in a very radical way.

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