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The more I think about it, the more I like it. They were going to piss away the money anyway, this way at least I have something to show for it and I don’t have a clunker to trade in, wish I did. What did they give AIG? What did you get out of that? As taxpayers we own a pretty big car company, if people didn’t buy them it would cost us money anyway, this was just like having a sale. If it continues and we use less fuel, the price of fuel will drop for everyone and we will import less.

I had dreams for the stimulus money, I wanted to end up on the other side of this with non imported, non polluting energy, that was my only wish. I am still kinda excited about the algae technology that the oil companies are throwing millions at. I want solar power on my rooftop to be cheap and efficient, something the size of a dish network sattelite to run the whole house. I’m one of those guys who lived in a dorm built by the WPA and still remember, I want to to see the results if we are going to dig a hole for ourselves. When they send everyone $500 to stimulate the economy, it pisses me off, when they save a bank or an insurance company it pisses me off, but when they spend money on something that will have long term and short term benefits, I’m in. It may help save Ford, Gm and Chrysler, it may keep us from the tipping point. I’m one of those guys that doesn’t see NASA as a waste of money, because velcro is cool.

I also think that the current regime needs a victory and this could be one for them. I don’t play sides with politics, it’s all the same to me, but I do root for the home team no matter what logo is next to their name, so I want our current president to succeed, just like I wanted the last one to, and I will hope for the best for the next one. I still think that Ronald Reagan got us out of the last funk, not because of his policies, but because the 1980 US Olympic Hockey team, maybe, just maybe, cash for clunkers is Obama’s hockey team, because today’s enemy isn’t the Russians, it’s the guys we buy oil from.

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The more I think about it, the more I like it. They were going to piss away the money anyway, this way at least I have something to show for it and I don’t have a clunker to trade in, wish I did. What did they give AIG? What did you get out of that? As taxpayers we own a pretty big car company, if people didn’t buy them it would cost us money anyway, this was just like having a sale. If it continues and we use less fuel, the price of fuel will drop for everyone and we will import less.

I had dreams for the stimulus money, I wanted to end up on the other side of this with non imported, non polluting energy, that was my only wish. I am still kinda excited about the algae technology that the oil companies are throwing millions at. I want solar power on my rooftop to be cheap and efficient, something the size of a dish network sattelite to run the whole house. I’m one of those guys who lived in a dorm built by the WPA and still remember, I want to to see the results if we are going to dig a hole for ourselves. When they send everyone $500 to stimulate the economy, it pisses me off, when they save a bank or an insurance company it pisses me off, but when they spend money on something that will have long term and short term benefits, I’m in. It may help save Ford, Gm and Chrysler, it may keep us from the tipping point. I’m one of those guys that doesn’t see NASA as a waste of money, because velcro is cool.

I also think that the current regime needs a victory and this could be one for them. I don’t play sides with politics, it’s all the same to me, but I do root for the home team no matter what logo is next to their name, so I want our current president to succeed, just like I wanted the last one to, and I will hope for the best for the next one. I still think that Ronald Reagan got us out of the last funk, not because of his policies, but because the 1980 US Olympic Hockey team, maybe, just maybe, cash for clunkers is Obama’s hockey team, because today’s enemy isn’t the Russians, it’s the guys we buy oil from.

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The more I think about it, the more I like it. They were going to piss away the money anyway, this way at least I have something to show for it and I don’t have a clunker to trade in, wish I did. What did they give AIG? What did you get out of that? As taxpayers we own a pretty big car company, if people didn’t buy them it would cost us money anyway, this was just like having a sale. If it continues and we use less fuel, the price of fuel will drop for everyone and we will import less.

I had dreams for the stimulus money, I wanted to end up on the other side of this with non imported, non polluting energy, that was my only wish. I am still kinda excited about the algae technology that the oil companies are throwing millions at. I want solar power on my rooftop to be cheap and efficient, something the size of a dish network sattelite to run the whole house. I’m one of those guys who lived in a dorm built by the WPA and still remember, I want to to see the results if we are going to dig a hole for ourselves. When they send everyone $500 to stimulate the economy, it pisses me off, when they save a bank or an insurance company it pisses me off, but when they spend money on something that will have long term and short term benefits, I’m in. It may help save Ford, Gm and Chrysler, it may keep us from the tipping point. I’m one of those guys that doesn’t see NASA as a waste of money, because velcro is cool.

I also think that the current regime needs a victory and this could be one for them. I don’t play sides with politics, it’s all the same to me, but I do root for the home team no matter what logo is next to their name, so I want our current president to succeed, just like I wanted the last one to, and I will hope for the best for the next one. I still think that Ronald Reagan got us out of the last funk, not because of his policies, but because the 1980 US Olympic Hockey team, maybe, just maybe, cash for clunkers is Obama’s hockey team, because today’s enemy isn’t the Russians, it’s the guys we buy oil from.

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The more I think about it, the more I like it. They were going to piss away the money anyway, this way at least I have something to show for it and I don’t have a clunker to trade in, wish I did. What did they give AIG? What did you get out of that? As taxpayers we own a pretty big car company, if people didn’t buy them it would cost us money anyway, this was just like having a sale. If it continues and we use less fuel, the price of fuel will drop for everyone and we will import less.

I had dreams for the stimulus money, I wanted to end up on the other side of this with non imported, non polluting energy, that was my only wish. I am still kinda excited about the algae technology that the oil companies are throwing millions at. I want solar power on my rooftop to be cheap and efficient, something the size of a dish network sattelite to run the whole house. I’m one of those guys who lived in a dorm built by the WPA and still remember, I want to to see the results if we are going to dig a hole for ourselves. When they send everyone $500 to stimulate the economy, it pisses me off, when they save a bank or an insurance company it pisses me off, but when they spend money on something that will have long term and short term benefits, I’m in. It may help save Ford, Gm and Chrysler, it may keep us from the tipping point. I’m one of those guys that doesn’t see NASA as a waste of money, because velcro is cool.

I also think that the current regime needs a victory and this could be one for them. I don’t play sides with politics, it’s all the same to me, but I do root for the home team no matter what logo is next to their name, so I want our current president to succeed, just like I wanted the last one to, and I will hope for the best for the next one. I still think that Ronald Reagan got us out of the last funk, not because of his policies, but because the 1980 US Olympic Hockey team, maybe, just maybe, cash for clunkers is Obama’s hockey team, because today’s enemy isn’t the Russians, it’s the guys we buy oil from.

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Is it in California? Some states have market value taxes, but here in prop 13 land, it’s pretty cut and dry, sales price is the law of the land.

There can also be things she isn’t telling you or she may not understand some of it. If you buy a trainwreck foreclosure and need to pull permits to repair or add things, the addition is added to the sales price to determine taxes, but I’m doubting that is the case since it is a condo.

Most of us in so cal have been reporting the opposite, where they are lowering taxes without even asking. You can look up her taxes using the address online, most counties have an online system, check it.

My last guess is that she will get a refund, I bought my place at the end of 2008, had to pay the taxes for the remainder of the cycle based on the former assesment, which was double. They just got around to updating it and are sending me a refund for those six months. Same thing happens in an up market but it usually results in a special assessment that you owe, nowadays it’s a refund. It takes a full year to get the taxes squared away, but it happens automatically and you end up not getting screwed, you pay more or get some back, depending on the scenario.

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Is it in California? Some states have market value taxes, but here in prop 13 land, it’s pretty cut and dry, sales price is the law of the land.

There can also be things she isn’t telling you or she may not understand some of it. If you buy a trainwreck foreclosure and need to pull permits to repair or add things, the addition is added to the sales price to determine taxes, but I’m doubting that is the case since it is a condo.

Most of us in so cal have been reporting the opposite, where they are lowering taxes without even asking. You can look up her taxes using the address online, most counties have an online system, check it.

My last guess is that she will get a refund, I bought my place at the end of 2008, had to pay the taxes for the remainder of the cycle based on the former assesment, which was double. They just got around to updating it and are sending me a refund for those six months. Same thing happens in an up market but it usually results in a special assessment that you owe, nowadays it’s a refund. It takes a full year to get the taxes squared away, but it happens automatically and you end up not getting screwed, you pay more or get some back, depending on the scenario.

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Is it in California? Some states have market value taxes, but here in prop 13 land, it’s pretty cut and dry, sales price is the law of the land.

There can also be things she isn’t telling you or she may not understand some of it. If you buy a trainwreck foreclosure and need to pull permits to repair or add things, the addition is added to the sales price to determine taxes, but I’m doubting that is the case since it is a condo.

Most of us in so cal have been reporting the opposite, where they are lowering taxes without even asking. You can look up her taxes using the address online, most counties have an online system, check it.

My last guess is that she will get a refund, I bought my place at the end of 2008, had to pay the taxes for the remainder of the cycle based on the former assesment, which was double. They just got around to updating it and are sending me a refund for those six months. Same thing happens in an up market but it usually results in a special assessment that you owe, nowadays it’s a refund. It takes a full year to get the taxes squared away, but it happens automatically and you end up not getting screwed, you pay more or get some back, depending on the scenario.

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Is it in California? Some states have market value taxes, but here in prop 13 land, it’s pretty cut and dry, sales price is the law of the land.

There can also be things she isn’t telling you or she may not understand some of it. If you buy a trainwreck foreclosure and need to pull permits to repair or add things, the addition is added to the sales price to determine taxes, but I’m doubting that is the case since it is a condo.

Most of us in so cal have been reporting the opposite, where they are lowering taxes without even asking. You can look up her taxes using the address online, most counties have an online system, check it.

My last guess is that she will get a refund, I bought my place at the end of 2008, had to pay the taxes for the remainder of the cycle based on the former assesment, which was double. They just got around to updating it and are sending me a refund for those six months. Same thing happens in an up market but it usually results in a special assessment that you owe, nowadays it’s a refund. It takes a full year to get the taxes squared away, but it happens automatically and you end up not getting screwed, you pay more or get some back, depending on the scenario.

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Is it in California? Some states have market value taxes, but here in prop 13 land, it’s pretty cut and dry, sales price is the law of the land.

There can also be things she isn’t telling you or she may not understand some of it. If you buy a trainwreck foreclosure and need to pull permits to repair or add things, the addition is added to the sales price to determine taxes, but I’m doubting that is the case since it is a condo.

Most of us in so cal have been reporting the opposite, where they are lowering taxes without even asking. You can look up her taxes using the address online, most counties have an online system, check it.

My last guess is that she will get a refund, I bought my place at the end of 2008, had to pay the taxes for the remainder of the cycle based on the former assesment, which was double. They just got around to updating it and are sending me a refund for those six months. Same thing happens in an up market but it usually results in a special assessment that you owe, nowadays it’s a refund. It takes a full year to get the taxes squared away, but it happens automatically and you end up not getting screwed, you pay more or get some back, depending on the scenario.

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[quote=scaredycat]take alook at those grpahs from the depression. right after the crash in 1929 there was a pretty steep rebound. bear traps suck you back in. the old way of doing business is over. the consumers are not going to consume oour way out of it. there will be profits in the future, but it wont be the way it happened before. the dow will hit 5,000 within the next 30 months.[/quote]

I’ll take that wager, but 30 months is a long time to wait, make a 12 month guess so we can at least tease each other sooner. If everything happened exactly like it has in the past, then there wouldn’t be any sport in it. I think the classic bear trap was March 2009, the one I put my foot in and failed to put my money in because I was scared. If you are scared, buy a dog.

Flu, 6x, was HOV (hovnanian homes)in March it was 51 cents. Broke 3 bucks lately, probably will go 7x soon. But then again buying a homebuilder stock during the worst economic disaster is stupid, right? I wish I was more stupid sometimes.

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[quote=scaredycat]take alook at those grpahs from the depression. right after the crash in 1929 there was a pretty steep rebound. bear traps suck you back in. the old way of doing business is over. the consumers are not going to consume oour way out of it. there will be profits in the future, but it wont be the way it happened before. the dow will hit 5,000 within the next 30 months.[/quote]

I’ll take that wager, but 30 months is a long time to wait, make a 12 month guess so we can at least tease each other sooner. If everything happened exactly like it has in the past, then there wouldn’t be any sport in it. I think the classic bear trap was March 2009, the one I put my foot in and failed to put my money in because I was scared. If you are scared, buy a dog.

Flu, 6x, was HOV (hovnanian homes)in March it was 51 cents. Broke 3 bucks lately, probably will go 7x soon. But then again buying a homebuilder stock during the worst economic disaster is stupid, right? I wish I was more stupid sometimes.

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[quote=scaredycat]take alook at those grpahs from the depression. right after the crash in 1929 there was a pretty steep rebound. bear traps suck you back in. the old way of doing business is over. the consumers are not going to consume oour way out of it. there will be profits in the future, but it wont be the way it happened before. the dow will hit 5,000 within the next 30 months.[/quote]

I’ll take that wager, but 30 months is a long time to wait, make a 12 month guess so we can at least tease each other sooner. If everything happened exactly like it has in the past, then there wouldn’t be any sport in it. I think the classic bear trap was March 2009, the one I put my foot in and failed to put my money in because I was scared. If you are scared, buy a dog.

Flu, 6x, was HOV (hovnanian homes)in March it was 51 cents. Broke 3 bucks lately, probably will go 7x soon. But then again buying a homebuilder stock during the worst economic disaster is stupid, right? I wish I was more stupid sometimes.

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[quote=scaredycat]take alook at those grpahs from the depression. right after the crash in 1929 there was a pretty steep rebound. bear traps suck you back in. the old way of doing business is over. the consumers are not going to consume oour way out of it. there will be profits in the future, but it wont be the way it happened before. the dow will hit 5,000 within the next 30 months.[/quote]

I’ll take that wager, but 30 months is a long time to wait, make a 12 month guess so we can at least tease each other sooner. If everything happened exactly like it has in the past, then there wouldn’t be any sport in it. I think the classic bear trap was March 2009, the one I put my foot in and failed to put my money in because I was scared. If you are scared, buy a dog.

Flu, 6x, was HOV (hovnanian homes)in March it was 51 cents. Broke 3 bucks lately, probably will go 7x soon. But then again buying a homebuilder stock during the worst economic disaster is stupid, right? I wish I was more stupid sometimes.

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[quote=scaredycat]take alook at those grpahs from the depression. right after the crash in 1929 there was a pretty steep rebound. bear traps suck you back in. the old way of doing business is over. the consumers are not going to consume oour way out of it. there will be profits in the future, but it wont be the way it happened before. the dow will hit 5,000 within the next 30 months.[/quote]

I’ll take that wager, but 30 months is a long time to wait, make a 12 month guess so we can at least tease each other sooner. If everything happened exactly like it has in the past, then there wouldn’t be any sport in it. I think the classic bear trap was March 2009, the one I put my foot in and failed to put my money in because I was scared. If you are scared, buy a dog.

Flu, 6x, was HOV (hovnanian homes)in March it was 51 cents. Broke 3 bucks lately, probably will go 7x soon. But then again buying a homebuilder stock during the worst economic disaster is stupid, right? I wish I was more stupid sometimes.

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While I’m prognosticating, the Chargers win the division and The Lakers repeat.[/quote]

TG: Bet you heaved a big ass sigh of relief when the Lakes re-inked Odom, huh?

Apropos of nothing, where do you think Vick will wind up and in what role?[/quote]

While were threadjacking, I am very happy they signed the candyman, it’s funny that the high taxes in California nearly drove him away, when you make 8 million a year, signing in a state with no taxes becomes a big deal, the Lakers have to pay 8-10% more to be even with other teams and the salary cap doesn’t accomodate state taxes. It’s not something I ever really thought about until the odom negotiations, now when they talk about raising taxes my focus will no longer be on businesses leaving California, it will be players. That might be a new slogan for the Howard Jarvis folks “Save our sports, stop new taxes.”

No clue on Vick, the teams that could use him can’t take the public relations beating, the teams that don’t care, don’t need him. If I had to guess, the Raiders, Skins or Pats, cause thier owner or coach are in the “I don’t care what people think” or the “I’m crazy, nobody will blame me” mode. But none of three really need him.

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