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Here’s some more data that I believe help explains a price premium:

Crime Rates per 1,000 Population for 2005.

http://www.sandiego.gov/police/pdf/ratesjandec2005.pdf

MURDER,RAPE,TOTAL VIOLENT,TOTAL PROPERTY

Carmel Valley:

0.00,0.06,0.76,19.14

Mira Mesa:

0.07,0.14,2.56,22.40

You can also look up school rankings, the San Dieguito Union High District (Torrey Pines, Carmel Valley Middle, Canyon Crest) all receive the highest rankings. As do all the schools in the Del Mar Union Elementary District (Carmel Del Mar, Torrey Hills, etc).

The San Diego Unified District is much more of a mixed bag, with some good, some okay, and some where I really wouldn’t want my kids to go to school.

http://school-ratings.com/cities/San_Diego.html

You can also do the same type of comparisons for Scripps Ranch, etc and it’s surrounding areas to see similar results.

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Mira Mesa Town Council Meeting
February 4, 2008
Featuring a presentation by the San Diego Police Department on crime and gangs in the area

”
12-18 months ago there “was a huge gang problem up here” (in Mira Mesa). The police did a lot of sweeps, made some arrests, and knocked the gang activity down.
”

http://www.crocuta.net/GangsInMiraMesa.htm

I’m not knocking MM, but it has been a problem on and off over the years.

I have a few friends who live there in various communities. It’s not uncommon to see bullet holes in fences there; seen it first hand. You just don’t see that in CV.

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Mira Mesa Town Council Meeting
February 4, 2008
Featuring a presentation by the San Diego Police Department on crime and gangs in the area

”
12-18 months ago there “was a huge gang problem up here” (in Mira Mesa). The police did a lot of sweeps, made some arrests, and knocked the gang activity down.
”

http://www.crocuta.net/GangsInMiraMesa.htm

I’m not knocking MM, but it has been a problem on and off over the years.

I have a few friends who live there in various communities. It’s not uncommon to see bullet holes in fences there; seen it first hand. You just don’t see that in CV.

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Mira Mesa Town Council Meeting
February 4, 2008
Featuring a presentation by the San Diego Police Department on crime and gangs in the area

”
12-18 months ago there “was a huge gang problem up here” (in Mira Mesa). The police did a lot of sweeps, made some arrests, and knocked the gang activity down.
”

http://www.crocuta.net/GangsInMiraMesa.htm

I’m not knocking MM, but it has been a problem on and off over the years.

I have a few friends who live there in various communities. It’s not uncommon to see bullet holes in fences there; seen it first hand. You just don’t see that in CV.

[sdnerd]

Mira Mesa Town Council Meeting
February 4, 2008
Featuring a presentation by the San Diego Police Department on crime and gangs in the area

”
12-18 months ago there “was a huge gang problem up here” (in Mira Mesa). The police did a lot of sweeps, made some arrests, and knocked the gang activity down.
”

http://www.crocuta.net/GangsInMiraMesa.htm

I’m not knocking MM, but it has been a problem on and off over the years.

I have a few friends who live there in various communities. It’s not uncommon to see bullet holes in fences there; seen it first hand. You just don’t see that in CV.

[sdnerd]

Mira Mesa Town Council Meeting
February 4, 2008
Featuring a presentation by the San Diego Police Department on crime and gangs in the area

”
12-18 months ago there “was a huge gang problem up here” (in Mira Mesa). The police did a lot of sweeps, made some arrests, and knocked the gang activity down.
”

http://www.crocuta.net/GangsInMiraMesa.htm

I’m not knocking MM, but it has been a problem on and off over the years.

I have a few friends who live there in various communities. It’s not uncommon to see bullet holes in fences there; seen it first hand. You just don’t see that in CV.

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Re: Sandi

At least one consideration, amongst many:

One freeway exit away often means a different school district. So, for example Mira Mesa is just a few minutes away from CV – the reality is it’s night and day difference in terms of schools. You also won’t find many Asian gangs in CV, etc.

Now, whether or not that’s worth a 10%, 20%, 30%, etc price premium is up for debate. But I do believe that’s a big factor and will help keep prices propped up.

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Re: Sandi

At least one consideration, amongst many:

One freeway exit away often means a different school district. So, for example Mira Mesa is just a few minutes away from CV – the reality is it’s night and day difference in terms of schools. You also won’t find many Asian gangs in CV, etc.

Now, whether or not that’s worth a 10%, 20%, 30%, etc price premium is up for debate. But I do believe that’s a big factor and will help keep prices propped up.

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Re: Sandi

At least one consideration, amongst many:

One freeway exit away often means a different school district. So, for example Mira Mesa is just a few minutes away from CV – the reality is it’s night and day difference in terms of schools. You also won’t find many Asian gangs in CV, etc.

Now, whether or not that’s worth a 10%, 20%, 30%, etc price premium is up for debate. But I do believe that’s a big factor and will help keep prices propped up.

[sdnerd]

Re: Sandi

At least one consideration, amongst many:

One freeway exit away often means a different school district. So, for example Mira Mesa is just a few minutes away from CV – the reality is it’s night and day difference in terms of schools. You also won’t find many Asian gangs in CV, etc.

Now, whether or not that’s worth a 10%, 20%, 30%, etc price premium is up for debate. But I do believe that’s a big factor and will help keep prices propped up.

[sdnerd]

Re: Sandi

At least one consideration, amongst many:

One freeway exit away often means a different school district. So, for example Mira Mesa is just a few minutes away from CV – the reality is it’s night and day difference in terms of schools. You also won’t find many Asian gangs in CV, etc.

Now, whether or not that’s worth a 10%, 20%, 30%, etc price premium is up for debate. But I do believe that’s a big factor and will help keep prices propped up.

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Breeze:

I wish you had made that post to begin with, it lends to a much better discussion.

I agree.

As I originally stated, I think that Lucera unit is going to fall further. Breaking the $200k price point is big – there is disagreement as to how much further they could fall. I believe only another 10-20% (putting them in the 50-60% off since the top) range.

After that point, the #s start penciling out IMHO where it does start to get attractive.

This area has a lot of job density; so long as that remains I believe rents here will stay strong. Especially as gas goes to $4-5/gal.

(People who commute from Murrieta, etc…. feeling for them)

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Breeze:

I wish you had made that post to begin with, it lends to a much better discussion.

I agree.

As I originally stated, I think that Lucera unit is going to fall further. Breaking the $200k price point is big – there is disagreement as to how much further they could fall. I believe only another 10-20% (putting them in the 50-60% off since the top) range.

After that point, the #s start penciling out IMHO where it does start to get attractive.

This area has a lot of job density; so long as that remains I believe rents here will stay strong. Especially as gas goes to $4-5/gal.

(People who commute from Murrieta, etc…. feeling for them)

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Breeze:

I wish you had made that post to begin with, it lends to a much better discussion.

I agree.

As I originally stated, I think that Lucera unit is going to fall further. Breaking the $200k price point is big – there is disagreement as to how much further they could fall. I believe only another 10-20% (putting them in the 50-60% off since the top) range.

After that point, the #s start penciling out IMHO where it does start to get attractive.

This area has a lot of job density; so long as that remains I believe rents here will stay strong. Especially as gas goes to $4-5/gal.

(People who commute from Murrieta, etc…. feeling for them)

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Breeze:

I wish you had made that post to begin with, it lends to a much better discussion.

I agree.

As I originally stated, I think that Lucera unit is going to fall further. Breaking the $200k price point is big – there is disagreement as to how much further they could fall. I believe only another 10-20% (putting them in the 50-60% off since the top) range.

After that point, the #s start penciling out IMHO where it does start to get attractive.

This area has a lot of job density; so long as that remains I believe rents here will stay strong. Especially as gas goes to $4-5/gal.

(People who commute from Murrieta, etc…. feeling for them)

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