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ParticipantMasturbation is not a crime
(I.once found a hat by the side of the road while biking that had a patch that said that )
ParticipantWhy not just criminalize all sexual aggressive introductory comeons. Say we found all date rapists were intensely forward and confident and pushy upon inteoduction. Shouldn’t that be enough to shut down such behavior, criminally or just socially by custom , since it can be “geouped” together?
Participant[quote=paramount]This shoot-down could easily be an arch duke type incident.
College kids should worry less about safe spaces and worry more about WW3.[/quote]
Kind of silly to worry about something we can’t control. The time to act was when bush Cheney set the end of the wold in motion. But there was nothing that could’ve been done then either.
Participant[quote=CA renter][quote=scaredyclassic]This seems a little like minority students calling for safe spaces on campus to limit speech that makes them uncomfortable.
Not sure that discomfort can be vanquished in our lifetime.[/quote]
Again, it’s far easier to take this position when you’re the one in power. Not so easy when you’re the one who’s been subjected to violent/aggressive/hateful speech and actions, especially when you’re in a more vulnerable and less powerful position.[/quote]
If you’re limiting someone’s speech I’d say by definition you’re in reality in the way more powerful position
Participant[quote=CA renter][quote=scaredyclassic]All interactions in prison and life are potential threats.
Catcalling is not a crime. Groping is a crime and could result in prison time. We can’t conflate noncriminal words with a sex crime.[/quote]
Sexually aggressive words and actions can indeed be grouped together. We’re not talking about the law here; we’re talking about how one group’s behavior (the group of stronger, larger [in size and/or number], more powerful people) negatively affects another weaker, less powerful group — groups who often have a long history of being abused and oppressed by the more powerful group.[/quote
Sure. And lustful glances can be grouped together with actual adultery.
Participant[quote=CA renter]Scaredy, when one of your clients is about to head off to prison, do you advise him to smile and nod when the other inmates catcall and whistle at him? Do you tell him that it’s “just a compliment,” and he should be happy about it?
Because that’s what it feels like to be a woman walking by yourself and having a group of sexually aggressive men catcall, grope, and make vulgar gestures at you.
Trust me, it’s not taken as a compliment; it’s a threat.[/quote]
The only reasonable advice for anyone afraid and feeling vulnerable is to be stronger, braver and tougher, and to fake it if you cant. I certainly wouldn’t advise them to try to change attitudes amongst prisoners or lodge complaints constantly about small transgressions against them.
ParticipantThis seems a little like minority students calling for safe spaces on campus to limit speech that makes them uncomfortable.
Not sure that discomfort can be vanquished in our lifetime.
ParticipantAll interactions in prison and life are potential threats.
Catcalling is not a crime. Groping is a crime and could result in prison time. We can’t conflate noncriminal words with a sex crime.
ParticipantWas reading some Internet article complaining about catcalling and sexism gone unnoticed and microaggressions. I thought this,response was pretty powerful. Maybe that means I’m another sexist pig…
“I look at the example of my mother: In the early 1970s when she was 30 years old, and a divorced woman with a young child, she couldn’t get a credit card because she wasn’t married. As such, once when our car broke down stranded us, she went to rent a car and couldn’t, because she didn’t have a credit card to use and they wouldn’t take a cash payment. We walked home for miles that evening, and she had to take the bus to work from then on until she could borrow a car. She wanted to buy a house when prices were cheap ($30,000 for a house) and she had a decent job, but nobody would give a single mother a loan. She worked, at times 5 jobs to make it so that she didn’t have to take any alimony – she was too proud, but accepted child support to pay for doctor’s visits, since she didn’t have any insurance paid by her employer.
She went back to school, became an archaeologist, and for 30 years worked in hot deserts and ran archaeological digs as one of the few women in a field completely dominated by men and could out-survey (for 20-30 miles at at time), out-dig, and out screen the lot of them.
If a construction worker cat called her, she waved and said “thank you!” She never turned down a compliment, and yet didn’t take a single ounce of c–p from anyone who every treated her poorly because she was a woman. She never once let anyone take her dignity from her, and they tried constantly.
I watched all of this first hand on a daily basis as a young boy growing up. So, when I read some whiny screed like this, I just cringe. To hear such complaining over what amounts to just generic humanity idiocy, and so mild in comparison to the history of human evil as to barely even be perceptible is just ridiculous to me.
In my opinion, my mother, who is still alive, but in very poor health, puts to pitiful shame every single young self-identifying feminist female who whines about some guy making an off-color comment, microaggression, or condescending statement or action. Young women in the West have it so good, not only in this world, but even as women. Astronomically better than most human beings, male or female, in the entire history of humanity, and yet you freely give up all your dignity to simpletons who are too callous or stupid to be worthy of it. Nobody can take your dignity away by a dumb comment – only you can give it away. And you allow it. You give your dignity away like you’re giving out candy at Halloween, and then you cry about it afterwards and say someone hurt your feelings.
Such precious flowers you all are. Feminists talk incessantly about the harnessing “power of being a woman”, and yet, the power they exhibit is so ridiculously evanescent, that the slightest bit of antagonism causes it to disappear like a wisp of smoke. That isn’t power, its the most pathetic kind of impotence there is. You all are more like medieval “damsels in distress” than any generation of women before you, because you literally cannot tolerate the slightest bruise without falling apart.
I’m not in any way advocating or justifying the bad behavior of one human being to another, but the thing is, you can’t control other people. You can only control yourself. Why on earth a person would thus decide that their dignity and power could be so easily interrupted, stunted, and destroyed by the mediocre and passing words of another is totally beyond me. I just don’t understand this mentality. And, I have precisely zero examples of that growing up. All I grew up around were physically and mentally strong women, and to me, their example is immutable.”
ParticipantThis debt book is the most interesting book I have ever read.
ParticipantI’m afraid it’d be easy to get. Anxiousness soothed by hound, get a tag.
No damn assistance dogs except seeing eye dogs. PERIOD.
ParticipantPabst isn’t that bad for so cheap. Really anything is nice.
Participant2 to 3 beers, or 2 to 3 6 packs?
If it’s just a couple beers a week I’d say pric ed us irrelevant.
ParticipantSynchronized their Casio digital watches…
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