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A nice water related day trip is DIAMOND VALLEY RESERVOIR by Hemet.

There’s a,21 mile trail circling the largest freshwater reservoir in southern California. It’s unusually gorgeous.

Check it out while there’s still water. Bring a bike or rent one there.

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[quote=ltsdd][quote=svelte][quote=joec]Other than people needed to write code for tech startup/apps/etc, are any of the other “hard” engineering sciences really in a short supply? (EE/Materials/Chem/Mechanical/etc?)

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That’s the key – STEM is too broad. To detect shortages/gluts it really needs to be broken down further.[/quote]

Choose your passion carefully.[/quote]

Passions choose u?

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[quote=bearishgurl][quote=scaredyclassic]I bounced around for 7 years after college before law school. Did all kinds of work, and no work. Travelled a lot. Was homeless [well a couchsurfer] a while (wish I’d been a semi hobo even longer). Never earned more than 12k a year.

Was worthwhile in many ways but in particular I think it has made me a better middle aged dude in that I do not have wanderlust. I see a lot of discontented guys my age wanting to roam. I did that upfront. I couldn’t have stayed married if I’d gotten hitched earlier too.

I’d say it’s too early to call ones kids successful till I see how they’re doing at age 40 or so, how their relationships are, how they relate to their kids. I probably looked like a total flop all around to my dad at age 29, but by 53, in my opinion, I’m doing good.

Yet, there’s no way I could be where I am mentally now if I’d gotten into the rat race right after college.

As Kurt vonnegut said,

Sometimes you have to go a very long way out of your way to go a short way correctly,

OR something like that.[/quote]Good to hear, scaredy, and I truly mean that. I KNOW you have a challenging and meaningful career and that it is entirely necessary to make the world go round.

I have a question for you, though. Did you ever get your student loans paid off? And if so, at what age were you when you finally paid them off?[/quote]

Parents paid undergrad. Could’ve gone to a,state school for free though. My parents wanted the most prestigious for me, I want the best value for my kids.

Law school loans still out there. Student Loans are very scary and dangerous….

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I bounced around for 7 years after college before law school. Did all kinds of work, and no work. Travelled a lot. Was homeless [well a couchsurfer] a while (wish I’d been a semi hobo even longer). Never earned more than 12k a year.

Was worthwhile in many ways but in particular I think it has made me a better middle aged dude in that I do not have wanderlust. I see a lot of discontented guys my age wanting to roam. I did that upfront. I couldn’t have stayed married if I’d gotten hitched earlier too.

I’d say it’s too early to call ones kids successful till I see how they’re doing at age 40 or so, how their relationships are, how they relate to their kids. I probably looked like a total flop all around to my dad at age 29, but by 53, in my opinion, I’m doing good.

Yet, there’s no way I could be where I am mentally now if I’d gotten into the rat race right after college.

As Kurt vonnegut said,

Sometimes you have to go a very long way out of your way to go a short way correctly,

OR something like that.

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My little one plays the piano beautifully. He practices 30 mins. A day. Been playing a few years.

I practiced music lessons for years.

I sucked at the beginning and sucked at the end.

He has music in him, unlike anyone in our family.

If I practice 50000 hours I will never be a major league shortstop.

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A philosophy of pessimism that cheered me up with its realism. Don’t lie to me. I’ll be happier if I know the truth.

Look, 9 of 10 doctors,say they would NOT recommend being a doc to their kids. Does that mean the kids,shouldn’t be docs?

No. Just come in with low expectations…for fulfillment, money, and everything…you will ean your bread by the sweat of your brow. Gen 3:19. and u will likely be happy, or happier than u expected.

But maybe drink a bit less. 1 in 3 lawyers have alcohol problem?

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[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=scaredyclassic]Why is step 3 required?[/quote]

The very accomplished book reviewer who is a Jewish author from the Ivy League said you can skip it. The example was that CEO of Cinnabon bootstrapped her way to the top and uses corporate slogannism to sell herself. But really, at some ungodly amount of.calories, Cinnabons are no good to anyone. Haha.[/quote]

Most of us move forward in the face of meaninglessness.

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Why is step 3 required?

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[quote=no_such_reality][quote=scaredyclassic]Funny you should mention that. I told my kid to study farm management…[/quote]

I’m not really joking about it. That may be the STEM degree of the future.[/quote]

I’m serious too.

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Funny you should mention that. I told my kid to study farm management…

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“The next of your great troubles is education. Those who want young men to go to college are like a lot of bandits preying on the land. Your American college is a school of struggle. Examinations are struggle, athletics are struggle, fraternities are struggle. Instead of teaching a boy to unlearn all the vicious competitive ways he has acquired from childhood, it reinforces them. Instead of turning his mind inwards, it fills him with ambition. Instead of making him quiet and opening his ears to intuitive understanding, it disturbs him and stifles his inner powers…

… What else could be expected? The teachers – the very ones who should be healing young minds sick with struggle – are sick themselves. Their first concern is not wisdom, but survival in a jousting match. Like creaking champions they have to be ever padding themselves with heavier degrees and the production of thicker books, straining their ears for faculty rumour, sharping their tongues for cleverness and reprisal. Are these the perfected men who should be the teachers of the unperfected?”

– The Parting of the Way, p. 167

Taoist essay from intro book on the tao…

I have no data, but I bet taoists emigrate less often.

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…others, like me, tried to come out feet first, which doesn’t work even if you are located by a lucky pussy.

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What is the taoist view on struggling to get into top schools?

Hey that’s not a bad idea for a college admissions essay! Maybe that’s just the thing to get my little one into harvard! I’ll start working on a,draft 4 him.

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Not all of us were lucky enough to glide through a pussy. Some of us had to claw our way to just breathe, cesarean style.

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Every ticket at the merc is less than 25 feet from the stage..

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