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Participant[quote=CostaMesa]That’s right. The reason there are almost no 2008 small diesels in the USA can be explained by a grand conspiracy by the months-old Obama administration to prevent good and decent American citizens from having what Big Oil is most afraid of: fuel efficiency. [rolling eyes]
Have y’all ever spoken with someone from a car company? IF they could stop blaming the unions for all of their problems, they’d start blaming the government. Oh wait, they’re doing that now too. Never once will anyone hear a carmaker take responsibility for failing to bring cars to America that we need. [/quote]
Ford says the reason they don’t offer the high-mileage diesel in the US boils down to costs. Not enough Americans are willing to pay thousands of dollars more for the same car with a more costly to produce diesel engine.
One of the reasons Americans don’t see the benefit is that diesel is generally more expensive than gasoline (right now is a temporary exception). Diesel is expensive because of taxes. Government taxes.
Last year you could not buy ANY diesel car in California due to emission standards. Again, Government emission standards.
The Gov. has a role to play in diesels gaining a larger portion of the US car market. You are correct though, there are other issues.
This is a good article on the subject:
http://www.businessweek.com/autos/autobeat/archives/2008/09/can_diesel_ever.htmlWho said anything about Obama or unions?
——————–School House Rock LOL!
Conjunction junction what’s your function….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkO87mkgcNoParticipant[quote=CostaMesa]That’s right. The reason there are almost no 2008 small diesels in the USA can be explained by a grand conspiracy by the months-old Obama administration to prevent good and decent American citizens from having what Big Oil is most afraid of: fuel efficiency. [rolling eyes]
Have y’all ever spoken with someone from a car company? IF they could stop blaming the unions for all of their problems, they’d start blaming the government. Oh wait, they’re doing that now too. Never once will anyone hear a carmaker take responsibility for failing to bring cars to America that we need. [/quote]
Ford says the reason they don’t offer the high-mileage diesel in the US boils down to costs. Not enough Americans are willing to pay thousands of dollars more for the same car with a more costly to produce diesel engine.
One of the reasons Americans don’t see the benefit is that diesel is generally more expensive than gasoline (right now is a temporary exception). Diesel is expensive because of taxes. Government taxes.
Last year you could not buy ANY diesel car in California due to emission standards. Again, Government emission standards.
The Gov. has a role to play in diesels gaining a larger portion of the US car market. You are correct though, there are other issues.
This is a good article on the subject:
http://www.businessweek.com/autos/autobeat/archives/2008/09/can_diesel_ever.htmlWho said anything about Obama or unions?
——————–School House Rock LOL!
Conjunction junction what’s your function….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkO87mkgcNoParticipant[quote=CostaMesa]That’s right. The reason there are almost no 2008 small diesels in the USA can be explained by a grand conspiracy by the months-old Obama administration to prevent good and decent American citizens from having what Big Oil is most afraid of: fuel efficiency. [rolling eyes]
Have y’all ever spoken with someone from a car company? IF they could stop blaming the unions for all of their problems, they’d start blaming the government. Oh wait, they’re doing that now too. Never once will anyone hear a carmaker take responsibility for failing to bring cars to America that we need. [/quote]
Ford says the reason they don’t offer the high-mileage diesel in the US boils down to costs. Not enough Americans are willing to pay thousands of dollars more for the same car with a more costly to produce diesel engine.
One of the reasons Americans don’t see the benefit is that diesel is generally more expensive than gasoline (right now is a temporary exception). Diesel is expensive because of taxes. Government taxes.
Last year you could not buy ANY diesel car in California due to emission standards. Again, Government emission standards.
The Gov. has a role to play in diesels gaining a larger portion of the US car market. You are correct though, there are other issues.
This is a good article on the subject:
http://www.businessweek.com/autos/autobeat/archives/2008/09/can_diesel_ever.htmlWho said anything about Obama or unions?
——————–School House Rock LOL!
Conjunction junction what’s your function….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkO87mkgcNoParticipant[quote=CostaMesa]That’s right. The reason there are almost no 2008 small diesels in the USA can be explained by a grand conspiracy by the months-old Obama administration to prevent good and decent American citizens from having what Big Oil is most afraid of: fuel efficiency. [rolling eyes]
Have y’all ever spoken with someone from a car company? IF they could stop blaming the unions for all of their problems, they’d start blaming the government. Oh wait, they’re doing that now too. Never once will anyone hear a carmaker take responsibility for failing to bring cars to America that we need. [/quote]
Ford says the reason they don’t offer the high-mileage diesel in the US boils down to costs. Not enough Americans are willing to pay thousands of dollars more for the same car with a more costly to produce diesel engine.
One of the reasons Americans don’t see the benefit is that diesel is generally more expensive than gasoline (right now is a temporary exception). Diesel is expensive because of taxes. Government taxes.
Last year you could not buy ANY diesel car in California due to emission standards. Again, Government emission standards.
The Gov. has a role to play in diesels gaining a larger portion of the US car market. You are correct though, there are other issues.
This is a good article on the subject:
http://www.businessweek.com/autos/autobeat/archives/2008/09/can_diesel_ever.htmlWho said anything about Obama or unions?
——————–School House Rock LOL!
Conjunction junction what’s your function….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkO87mkgcNoParticipantPlease reads the post above and consider it when you read this:
From the New York Times:
There are now more than five unemployed workers for every job opening in the United States.
Economists are currently spreading the word that the recession may end sometime this year, but the unemployment rate will continue to climb. That’s not a recovery. That’s mumbo jumbo.
There were roughly seven million people officially counted as unemployed in November 2007, a month before the recession began. Now there are about 14 million.
“By May 2009, [..] the total number of underutilized workers had increased dramatically from 15.63 million to 29.37 million — a rise of 13.7 million, or 88 percent. Nearly 30 million working-age individuals were underutilized in May 2009, the largest number in our nation’s history”.
Three-quarters of the workers let go over the past year were permanently displaced, as opposed to temporarily laid off. They won’t be going back to their jobs when economic conditions improve.
Men accounted for nearly 80 percent of the loss in employment in this recession. [..] Workers under 30 have sustained nearly half the net job losses since November 2007.
———Enjoy your Hyundai, Honda whatever! You might not have a job in two years but you’ll still have that tiny “personal” advantage you thought you’d gain?
Every job should be important to us. Sadly in America the “other” guy’s job can go suck an egg, the only job most Americans care about is their own. Maybe that will change when people finally put two and two together and realize not supporting the “other” guy’s job eventually cost them “their” job???
ParticipantPlease reads the post above and consider it when you read this:
From the New York Times:
There are now more than five unemployed workers for every job opening in the United States.
Economists are currently spreading the word that the recession may end sometime this year, but the unemployment rate will continue to climb. That’s not a recovery. That’s mumbo jumbo.
There were roughly seven million people officially counted as unemployed in November 2007, a month before the recession began. Now there are about 14 million.
“By May 2009, [..] the total number of underutilized workers had increased dramatically from 15.63 million to 29.37 million — a rise of 13.7 million, or 88 percent. Nearly 30 million working-age individuals were underutilized in May 2009, the largest number in our nation’s history”.
Three-quarters of the workers let go over the past year were permanently displaced, as opposed to temporarily laid off. They won’t be going back to their jobs when economic conditions improve.
Men accounted for nearly 80 percent of the loss in employment in this recession. [..] Workers under 30 have sustained nearly half the net job losses since November 2007.
———Enjoy your Hyundai, Honda whatever! You might not have a job in two years but you’ll still have that tiny “personal” advantage you thought you’d gain?
Every job should be important to us. Sadly in America the “other” guy’s job can go suck an egg, the only job most Americans care about is their own. Maybe that will change when people finally put two and two together and realize not supporting the “other” guy’s job eventually cost them “their” job???
ParticipantPlease reads the post above and consider it when you read this:
From the New York Times:
There are now more than five unemployed workers for every job opening in the United States.
Economists are currently spreading the word that the recession may end sometime this year, but the unemployment rate will continue to climb. That’s not a recovery. That’s mumbo jumbo.
There were roughly seven million people officially counted as unemployed in November 2007, a month before the recession began. Now there are about 14 million.
“By May 2009, [..] the total number of underutilized workers had increased dramatically from 15.63 million to 29.37 million — a rise of 13.7 million, or 88 percent. Nearly 30 million working-age individuals were underutilized in May 2009, the largest number in our nation’s history”.
Three-quarters of the workers let go over the past year were permanently displaced, as opposed to temporarily laid off. They won’t be going back to their jobs when economic conditions improve.
Men accounted for nearly 80 percent of the loss in employment in this recession. [..] Workers under 30 have sustained nearly half the net job losses since November 2007.
———Enjoy your Hyundai, Honda whatever! You might not have a job in two years but you’ll still have that tiny “personal” advantage you thought you’d gain?
Every job should be important to us. Sadly in America the “other” guy’s job can go suck an egg, the only job most Americans care about is their own. Maybe that will change when people finally put two and two together and realize not supporting the “other” guy’s job eventually cost them “their” job???
ParticipantPlease reads the post above and consider it when you read this:
From the New York Times:
There are now more than five unemployed workers for every job opening in the United States.
Economists are currently spreading the word that the recession may end sometime this year, but the unemployment rate will continue to climb. That’s not a recovery. That’s mumbo jumbo.
There were roughly seven million people officially counted as unemployed in November 2007, a month before the recession began. Now there are about 14 million.
“By May 2009, [..] the total number of underutilized workers had increased dramatically from 15.63 million to 29.37 million — a rise of 13.7 million, or 88 percent. Nearly 30 million working-age individuals were underutilized in May 2009, the largest number in our nation’s history”.
Three-quarters of the workers let go over the past year were permanently displaced, as opposed to temporarily laid off. They won’t be going back to their jobs when economic conditions improve.
Men accounted for nearly 80 percent of the loss in employment in this recession. [..] Workers under 30 have sustained nearly half the net job losses since November 2007.
———Enjoy your Hyundai, Honda whatever! You might not have a job in two years but you’ll still have that tiny “personal” advantage you thought you’d gain?
Every job should be important to us. Sadly in America the “other” guy’s job can go suck an egg, the only job most Americans care about is their own. Maybe that will change when people finally put two and two together and realize not supporting the “other” guy’s job eventually cost them “their” job???
ParticipantPlease reads the post above and consider it when you read this:
From the New York Times:
There are now more than five unemployed workers for every job opening in the United States.
Economists are currently spreading the word that the recession may end sometime this year, but the unemployment rate will continue to climb. That’s not a recovery. That’s mumbo jumbo.
There were roughly seven million people officially counted as unemployed in November 2007, a month before the recession began. Now there are about 14 million.
“By May 2009, [..] the total number of underutilized workers had increased dramatically from 15.63 million to 29.37 million — a rise of 13.7 million, or 88 percent. Nearly 30 million working-age individuals were underutilized in May 2009, the largest number in our nation’s history”.
Three-quarters of the workers let go over the past year were permanently displaced, as opposed to temporarily laid off. They won’t be going back to their jobs when economic conditions improve.
Men accounted for nearly 80 percent of the loss in employment in this recession. [..] Workers under 30 have sustained nearly half the net job losses since November 2007.
———Enjoy your Hyundai, Honda whatever! You might not have a job in two years but you’ll still have that tiny “personal” advantage you thought you’d gain?
Every job should be important to us. Sadly in America the “other” guy’s job can go suck an egg, the only job most Americans care about is their own. Maybe that will change when people finally put two and two together and realize not supporting the “other” guy’s job eventually cost them “their” job???
ParticipantAN, Your question has been answered already in this thread. Take a minute to read the thread you are participating in.
You have not stumbled onto some deep thought process quandary.
Who’s economy do the profits from an Accord sale stimulate? Who’s economy suffers? Who’s deficit benefits? Who’s deficit suffers?
More direct:
A Scorecard for Families and Public Officials
What is an American Automobile?LFI’s retiree supporters believe that determination is up to you. But if you want the car you buy to support jobs and investment in your community, you need to have the facts. Here is some information worth considering.
Automaker Jobs.U.S. automakers (Ford, GM and Chrysler) employ twice as many U.S. workers (per car) as foreign automakers (including all the cars they make here). (Note the PER CAR)
Even with recent buyouts, GM employs about as many Americans as Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, Kia, Mazda, Subaru, Mercedes, BMW and VW combined. Ford and Chrysler each employ more U.S. workers at a single manufacturing facility than Hyundai and VW employ nationwide. Honda, the largest, longest operating “transplant” manufacturer in the U.S., employs significantly more workers, per car, than rivals Hyundai, Nissan and VW. But even Honda employs only 25,000 Americans, less than half of Ford’s employee count, and about a third of GM’s current total.
Supplier Jobs.
“Made in America” matters even more when you look at the men and women working for the auto parts suppliers that serve automakers. These companies employ twice as many Americans as the automakers themselves, and they conduct approximately 40% of automotive R&D.Ford, GM and Chrysler use twice the “domestic content,” per car, that foreign automakers use, on average. (note, it says ON AVERAGE, there are some foriegn models with high US parts content)
As a result, even though Ford, GM and Chrysler sold less than half the vehicles purchased in the U.S. last year, they purchased two-thirds of the parts made here.Research & Development.
Tomorrow’s jobs will depend, in part, on today’s R&D, particularly in fuel efficiency and safety. The Japanese Automobile Manufacturers Association (JAMA), an association of 14 Japanese automakers doing business in America, notes that they collectively employ 3,600 R&D workers at 36 facilities nationwide. Honda operates 10 facilities employing 1,300 R&D professionals. Level Field welcomes these jobs, but more than 65,000 Americans (nearly 20 times JAMA’s total) work in 215 automotive R&D facilities in Michigan alone.
http://www.levelfieldinstitute.org/about.html
—————-ParticipantAN, Your question has been answered already in this thread. Take a minute to read the thread you are participating in.
You have not stumbled onto some deep thought process quandary.
Who’s economy do the profits from an Accord sale stimulate? Who’s economy suffers? Who’s deficit benefits? Who’s deficit suffers?
More direct:
A Scorecard for Families and Public Officials
What is an American Automobile?LFI’s retiree supporters believe that determination is up to you. But if you want the car you buy to support jobs and investment in your community, you need to have the facts. Here is some information worth considering.
Automaker Jobs.U.S. automakers (Ford, GM and Chrysler) employ twice as many U.S. workers (per car) as foreign automakers (including all the cars they make here). (Note the PER CAR)
Even with recent buyouts, GM employs about as many Americans as Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, Kia, Mazda, Subaru, Mercedes, BMW and VW combined. Ford and Chrysler each employ more U.S. workers at a single manufacturing facility than Hyundai and VW employ nationwide. Honda, the largest, longest operating “transplant” manufacturer in the U.S., employs significantly more workers, per car, than rivals Hyundai, Nissan and VW. But even Honda employs only 25,000 Americans, less than half of Ford’s employee count, and about a third of GM’s current total.
Supplier Jobs.
“Made in America” matters even more when you look at the men and women working for the auto parts suppliers that serve automakers. These companies employ twice as many Americans as the automakers themselves, and they conduct approximately 40% of automotive R&D.Ford, GM and Chrysler use twice the “domestic content,” per car, that foreign automakers use, on average. (note, it says ON AVERAGE, there are some foriegn models with high US parts content)
As a result, even though Ford, GM and Chrysler sold less than half the vehicles purchased in the U.S. last year, they purchased two-thirds of the parts made here.Research & Development.
Tomorrow’s jobs will depend, in part, on today’s R&D, particularly in fuel efficiency and safety. The Japanese Automobile Manufacturers Association (JAMA), an association of 14 Japanese automakers doing business in America, notes that they collectively employ 3,600 R&D workers at 36 facilities nationwide. Honda operates 10 facilities employing 1,300 R&D professionals. Level Field welcomes these jobs, but more than 65,000 Americans (nearly 20 times JAMA’s total) work in 215 automotive R&D facilities in Michigan alone.
http://www.levelfieldinstitute.org/about.html
—————-ParticipantAN, Your question has been answered already in this thread. Take a minute to read the thread you are participating in.
You have not stumbled onto some deep thought process quandary.
Who’s economy do the profits from an Accord sale stimulate? Who’s economy suffers? Who’s deficit benefits? Who’s deficit suffers?
More direct:
A Scorecard for Families and Public Officials
What is an American Automobile?LFI’s retiree supporters believe that determination is up to you. But if you want the car you buy to support jobs and investment in your community, you need to have the facts. Here is some information worth considering.
Automaker Jobs.U.S. automakers (Ford, GM and Chrysler) employ twice as many U.S. workers (per car) as foreign automakers (including all the cars they make here). (Note the PER CAR)
Even with recent buyouts, GM employs about as many Americans as Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, Kia, Mazda, Subaru, Mercedes, BMW and VW combined. Ford and Chrysler each employ more U.S. workers at a single manufacturing facility than Hyundai and VW employ nationwide. Honda, the largest, longest operating “transplant” manufacturer in the U.S., employs significantly more workers, per car, than rivals Hyundai, Nissan and VW. But even Honda employs only 25,000 Americans, less than half of Ford’s employee count, and about a third of GM’s current total.
Supplier Jobs.
“Made in America” matters even more when you look at the men and women working for the auto parts suppliers that serve automakers. These companies employ twice as many Americans as the automakers themselves, and they conduct approximately 40% of automotive R&D.Ford, GM and Chrysler use twice the “domestic content,” per car, that foreign automakers use, on average. (note, it says ON AVERAGE, there are some foriegn models with high US parts content)
As a result, even though Ford, GM and Chrysler sold less than half the vehicles purchased in the U.S. last year, they purchased two-thirds of the parts made here.Research & Development.
Tomorrow’s jobs will depend, in part, on today’s R&D, particularly in fuel efficiency and safety. The Japanese Automobile Manufacturers Association (JAMA), an association of 14 Japanese automakers doing business in America, notes that they collectively employ 3,600 R&D workers at 36 facilities nationwide. Honda operates 10 facilities employing 1,300 R&D professionals. Level Field welcomes these jobs, but more than 65,000 Americans (nearly 20 times JAMA’s total) work in 215 automotive R&D facilities in Michigan alone.
http://www.levelfieldinstitute.org/about.html
—————-ParticipantAN, Your question has been answered already in this thread. Take a minute to read the thread you are participating in.
You have not stumbled onto some deep thought process quandary.
Who’s economy do the profits from an Accord sale stimulate? Who’s economy suffers? Who’s deficit benefits? Who’s deficit suffers?
More direct:
A Scorecard for Families and Public Officials
What is an American Automobile?LFI’s retiree supporters believe that determination is up to you. But if you want the car you buy to support jobs and investment in your community, you need to have the facts. Here is some information worth considering.
Automaker Jobs.U.S. automakers (Ford, GM and Chrysler) employ twice as many U.S. workers (per car) as foreign automakers (including all the cars they make here). (Note the PER CAR)
Even with recent buyouts, GM employs about as many Americans as Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, Kia, Mazda, Subaru, Mercedes, BMW and VW combined. Ford and Chrysler each employ more U.S. workers at a single manufacturing facility than Hyundai and VW employ nationwide. Honda, the largest, longest operating “transplant” manufacturer in the U.S., employs significantly more workers, per car, than rivals Hyundai, Nissan and VW. But even Honda employs only 25,000 Americans, less than half of Ford’s employee count, and about a third of GM’s current total.
Supplier Jobs.
“Made in America” matters even more when you look at the men and women working for the auto parts suppliers that serve automakers. These companies employ twice as many Americans as the automakers themselves, and they conduct approximately 40% of automotive R&D.Ford, GM and Chrysler use twice the “domestic content,” per car, that foreign automakers use, on average. (note, it says ON AVERAGE, there are some foriegn models with high US parts content)
As a result, even though Ford, GM and Chrysler sold less than half the vehicles purchased in the U.S. last year, they purchased two-thirds of the parts made here.Research & Development.
Tomorrow’s jobs will depend, in part, on today’s R&D, particularly in fuel efficiency and safety. The Japanese Automobile Manufacturers Association (JAMA), an association of 14 Japanese automakers doing business in America, notes that they collectively employ 3,600 R&D workers at 36 facilities nationwide. Honda operates 10 facilities employing 1,300 R&D professionals. Level Field welcomes these jobs, but more than 65,000 Americans (nearly 20 times JAMA’s total) work in 215 automotive R&D facilities in Michigan alone.
http://www.levelfieldinstitute.org/about.html
—————-ParticipantAN, Your question has been answered already in this thread. Take a minute to read the thread you are participating in.
You have not stumbled onto some deep thought process quandary.
Who’s economy do the profits from an Accord sale stimulate? Who’s economy suffers? Who’s deficit benefits? Who’s deficit suffers?
More direct:
A Scorecard for Families and Public Officials
What is an American Automobile?LFI’s retiree supporters believe that determination is up to you. But if you want the car you buy to support jobs and investment in your community, you need to have the facts. Here is some information worth considering.
Automaker Jobs.U.S. automakers (Ford, GM and Chrysler) employ twice as many U.S. workers (per car) as foreign automakers (including all the cars they make here). (Note the PER CAR)
Even with recent buyouts, GM employs about as many Americans as Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, Kia, Mazda, Subaru, Mercedes, BMW and VW combined. Ford and Chrysler each employ more U.S. workers at a single manufacturing facility than Hyundai and VW employ nationwide. Honda, the largest, longest operating “transplant” manufacturer in the U.S., employs significantly more workers, per car, than rivals Hyundai, Nissan and VW. But even Honda employs only 25,000 Americans, less than half of Ford’s employee count, and about a third of GM’s current total.
Supplier Jobs.
“Made in America” matters even more when you look at the men and women working for the auto parts suppliers that serve automakers. These companies employ twice as many Americans as the automakers themselves, and they conduct approximately 40% of automotive R&D.Ford, GM and Chrysler use twice the “domestic content,” per car, that foreign automakers use, on average. (note, it says ON AVERAGE, there are some foriegn models with high US parts content)
As a result, even though Ford, GM and Chrysler sold less than half the vehicles purchased in the U.S. last year, they purchased two-thirds of the parts made here.Research & Development.
Tomorrow’s jobs will depend, in part, on today’s R&D, particularly in fuel efficiency and safety. The Japanese Automobile Manufacturers Association (JAMA), an association of 14 Japanese automakers doing business in America, notes that they collectively employ 3,600 R&D workers at 36 facilities nationwide. Honda operates 10 facilities employing 1,300 R&D professionals. Level Field welcomes these jobs, but more than 65,000 Americans (nearly 20 times JAMA’s total) work in 215 automotive R&D facilities in Michigan alone.
http://www.levelfieldinstitute.org/about.html
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