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Participant[quote=krowe]We have offered to plead guilty to the ID theft and harassment charges since the beginning, 2 years ago, and it is the DA that has insisted on dragging this out.[/quote]
Not good enough. Poor you how the DA treats you badly, like people who outbid you on houses treat you badly. The court system takes a long time for everyone.I hope you can come out of jail/prison not living in some crazy alternative reality like you were when you made these hideous crimes and like you obviously still do. Sorry for how you got to this point but letting you go won’t fix it. You have made that very clear.
Please plead guilty to all charges and go to work on it.
ParticipantBecause while painful i suspect everything that you did for your victims is CYA. You want sympathy because you are spending money on attorneys? Get a fricken clue. Talk about entitlement.
If everybody got to plead all this sob story stuff they would be no need for prisons. Most evil doers simply don’t have the funds to attempt to make retribution or know it won’t do any good anyway. Why should money or your attempts to save yourself present a different justice system for you? You’ll be crazy or not depending on how it works for you.
I believe in jail for you because I see anything else as special privilege and the things you did are vile and your pleas here ,and most likely everywhere, are pathetic.
You are so nice why don’t you plead guilty and save society all the trouble. Oh Yeah because that would hurt YOU worse.
Participant[quote=krowe]I agree with you that my actions were offensive, selfish, malicious, intrusive, and very immature. They could have created a dangerous situation for this innocent family.
This behavior is completely the opposite of how I normally am and was caused by some extraordinary circumstances. As soon as the circumstance ended, I was able to think clearly, realized what I was doing and how wrong it was, and immediately stopped.
I wrote the family a 3 page letter expressing how sorry I was for my behavior and the impact it had on them. I insisted on paying all of their out of pocket costs up front. I wanted to do more to make amends, but at that point it was all I could do.
I have already received very serious consequences (public humiliation, termination, astronomical attorney costs, and 2 years of absolute terror from the legal process). Please don’t interpret this as whining or complaining….I accept that my actions warranted significant consequences. I just want to point out that experiencing dismay about my behavior (to the point of being suicidal) and receiving punishment occurs long before being sentenced. I truly wish I could be whipped in the public square (like the old days) so I could have a punishment that would only affect me. The only thing prison would do is to deprive my terminally ill husband and disabled daughter from their only caretaker.
I appreciate your giving me a chance to explain. And I realize there is no explanation that would make my behavior acceptable. It’s even difficult for my behavior to be understandable unless you experienced the circumstances I did which were the underlying cause of my actions.
Thank you.
Kathy[/quote]Serious Criminal use of your free will is the reason. I am sure you are somewhat crazy but our solution for that seems to be homelessness and that’s too good for you and you don’t seem to be wanting this thing to look like any thing but a prank and a slip-up, not mental illness. As far a sob story I am sure your story is sad. So is everybody else’s who goes to jail. Everybody has the same punishment starts before going to jail so why do you think you are special for that? It’s called do the crime do the time, all of it.
I would like that you go to jail and I am pretty soft on crime. I sincerely hope your family will get basic needs met or better , but by someone else., even if at tax payer expense. It’s easy to imagine they will.
Be glad that a trial is available for you if our society couldn’t afford that you might get the street justice you can easily pretend is better and would fix everything, since it isn’t going to happen.
ParticipantInquisition exhibit at the wax museum in Madrid is the strangest I have seen. Didn’t expect that. Pretty graphic.
My favorites are natural history museums, nothing too weird there.
ParticipantO.k so this has changed a lot, that’s why I stated the dates of my experience with it in my first post. I still don’t really have a lot of inside scoop for that 90’s time frame though I still have some friends from those circles. I just really didn’t want to know.
At the time Brazil and the U.S. were squabbling a lot over visa requirements. I think Brazil said ,” if we need Visas so do you to visit our country”. I believe since then you needed a Visa to go to Brazil. Maybe there was some political situation that gave some visa overstaying immigrants some official of unofficial latitude. At the time, undocumented Mexicans certainly were not having much trouble living and working in the USA either. Though I know of one guy from Acupulco who was deported. He was in a criminal jail for something first though. Came back and is fine, married with kids now.
Participant[quote=deadzone]What do you mean by “have the visa overstay thing figured out”? Is/was there some specific technique or scam?[/quote]
No I don’t know the specifics of the paper work, Some times I knew it was faked, Sometimes I heard of people going home to renew visas but not sure of the details. They got here and stayed here in large numbers , not all through marriage, but a lot that way. Most of them, I know some who struggled economically. I met a good sample of single people got gainful employment in stable positions/ companies others cleaned houses or were nannies and did other under the table work,and went to adult ed/college. Those successes = having it figured out . Even if it were all “legal “, or through marriage, which I know it wasn’t , it would still mean they had it figured out to me.
Participant[quote=UCGal]The two illegal immigrants I’ve known personally are both visa overstays.
One is Canadian. He’s been here for about 20 years. He can’t go home to see his family because he wouldn’t be able to return easily. He came as a tourist, met a pretty girl, and stayed. He works under the table jobs.
The other is a british girl. She was girlfriend of a friend of mine. She came on a visit, and stayed… she got nanny jobs (under the table) till she cobbled together enough fake documentation. She’d been in the country 5 years when I met her.
I’ve read that most of the “illegals” are not migrant workers from the southern border, but are actually visa overstays – many white, english speaking, etc. But there isn’t the racist reaction to Canadians and Brits.[/quote]
I have known hundreds of illegal immigrants. Mostly Mexicans but Brazilians have the visa overstay thing figured out, also Argentines, at least going back a few years and into the early 90’s they did , lots and lots of them in San Diego .
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=Blogstar] You can lift with your kid and that would be a cool way to spend some time.[/quote]
Yup, I do lift with my son. Only problem is that he’s now moving nearly 375lbs on the bench and I’m starting to feel like I should be wearing a bag over my head out of embarrassment.[/quote]
That’s one strong boy there, nothing to be embarrassed about.Funny think about football, my little tiger says he wants to play tackle football because it’s the only game where you can grab peoples legs and pull them to the ground. I told him leg tackles are really not that highly rated in the sport and that he can tackle people in soccer. He couldn’t believe you can tackle people in soccer. I said sure, it’s like when your brother was knocking them on their butts. He says, “yeah, but you can’t just trip them”.
Participant[quote=spdrun]Next time, make like Paul Simon’s boxer and lie-lie-lie to get on the jury. Then NULLIFY!
Fuck the law and fuck the people who enforce them with no human compassion whatsoever.[/quote]
I am into speaking my conscience not playing G-d. Great song though.ParticipantHow many people died in Gaza today?
ParticipantI got kicked off a jury panel for saying I wouldn’t respect laws against possession and use in Marijuana cases . That was about 25 years ago. If more and more people will do that …we have the power.
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Russ: My Army career ended in a helo crash in the late 1980s and that screwed up my knees, hip and back, which means any serious exercise, like running, went out the door.
I swim and still lift semi-seriously, but my “old man glory” is tied up in my coaching football.
Ironically, in spite of playing football and baseball in high school, the Army actually got me in the best shape of my life, including a power lifting routine I still use.[/quote]
Wow, sorry to hear that. Swimming is good though, Probably the smartest thing to be doing and strength is good going forward. You can lift with your kid and that would be a cool way to spend some time.Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Russ: Serious question, do you ever look back and wonder “what if?”.
I had two scholarships to Div I schools, until I punched a cop at a party and wound up in the Army. I think “what if?” fairly regularly. For all my “good” upbringing, I still did something colossally stupid and wonder how things would’ve turned out if I could have just controlled my temper.[/quote]
I did sometimes but not much .
I was a strong pitcher at about 5-6 110 pounds and grew to be 6-5″ -190ish so , sometimes I do wonder. I got in the fastest pitcher in the West contest not even dabbling in baseball , just qualified one year at Jack Murphy…didn’t go too far though, off flat ground, no mound. Lots of guys can throw in the 90’s and don’t get far though. Nothing to lose sleep over except I wished my whole entire childhood was better! I did lose sleep for a while over being in somewhere near 4 min mile pace shape, but choked in my only race and got hurt after that and quit. That was as a young adult. Like I said , I had a hard time letting my talents mean anything good and sticking with them.Are you trying for any old man glory? I am shooting for a 5 minute mile without going apeshit with training. Just for the hell of it. I like running. Working on my 400 repeats now. I am really fit for an over 50 basketball league but family logistics with that are not ideal. Last year some guy tried to steer me onto a 50+ rowing club after he watched this huge old man run 3 miles under 18 minutes. I would have been good at rowing. What they do is a lot like running the mile aerobically. I think I’ll do something else after making this mile or giving the goal up. It’s been good for my kids, watching my wife and I team up for a short triathlon was inspiring , I can tell. She swam and I biked and did the 3 mile run.
Participant[quote=barnaby33]Flyer, you make a point, much like a Jesuit. You pick a minor case and use it to make a major point. There are as far as I know only two types of citizenship, right of place, or right of blood. America happens to be a right of place citizenship. If you are born in the woods or a remote Indian tribe you are still entitled to documents. The people in question are most assuredly not. The proof is in the fact that they do not obtain them before coming.
I actually have real world first person experience in this as I tried to get a lovely woman a visa to come visit me. A woman I’ve been dating off and on for two years. Recently she was denied that visa. I can either accept that, or import her, “ILLEGALY.”[/quote]
Import her illegally marry her and go to mexico and spend a couple of weeks immigrating her, live happily ever after.
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