Sore loser in the bidding war

[Coronita]

[quote=harvey]This thread just got creepy.[/quote]

Winnar!

I can’t tell if this blog post is more like an episode out of the twilight zone or out of seinfield…

[Coronita]

[quote=zk][quote=scaredyclassic]Hi krowe! Welcome!

I do have a few questions

1. G-d. Actually exists or just pretend?
2. Afterlife. Yes or no?
3. Ballpark estimate on gold price 12/31/14
4. Housing prices. Near term peak?[/quote]

Yeah, and when will the Cubs win the World Series?

And, life’s other great mystery (it even had Freud stumped): What do women want? Oh, wait, you already answered that one.[/quote]

Don’t forget to ask the age old question…

Just exactly how far is Santee from La Jolla…..

[bearishgurl]

I just found a moment to check the docket to learn that Krowe (thru Sevilla) filed her Petition for Review on Friday, May 9.

http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/mainCaseScreen.cfm?dist=0&doc_id=2076603&doc_no=S218436

In the interim, I consulted CRC 8.264 (b) Finality of Decision.

http://www.courts.ca.gov/cms/rules/index.cfm?title=eight&linkid=rule8_264

Subd. (b)(1) DOES state that a CA court of appeal decision is not final until the 30th day after their opinion is released. Thus an appellant has 10 days beyond that date to file their Petition for Review (in this case, 5/14/14).

I erred previously in this thread in that I counted the deadline for the filing of Pet Review to be 10 days from when the opinion was filed, NOT ten days from its finality (5/4) for filing of the Petition for Review.

Sorry for the confusion, folks … I haven’t worked on a state appeal since 2010 and a was a bit rusty off the top of my head on all the technicalities.

I believe Justice McDonald’s dissent at the 4th/1 DCA set up Krowe’s issue of proving “intent to commit a crime” as a matter of first impression which the CA Supreme Court may very well decide to entertain.

Stay tuned, folks. The “fat lady” has not yet planned what she will sing for an encore here. And it’s going to be interesting to find out.

[CA renter]

Thanks for the update, BG.

[joec]

Article in UT about this today:
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/jul/18/tp-rape-ad-case-moves-forward/

[zk]

[quote=joec]Article in UT about this today:
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/jul/18/tp-rape-ad-case-moves-forward/%5B/quote%5D

Glad to hear the case is moving forward. I think her actions were extremely serious. If she pulled that “prank” on my daughter and something bad happened, there wouldn’t be a defendant left to try.

[svelte]

[quote=krowe]
I don’t want to intrude on your group, just wanted to offer answers to your questions if you wanted.

Thank you,
Kathy[/quote]

(a) I don’t believe you are KR
(b) Regardless, CA Renter invited you tell your side of the story. So far, you haven’t.

I can’t imagine what you could possibly say to make your actions seem even a slight bit better.

[CA renter]

[quote=joec]Article in UT about this today:
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/jul/18/tp-rape-ad-case-moves-forward/%5B/quote%5D

One step closer to justice! I wish the felony identity theft charges hadn’t been reduced to misdemeanors, though. This woman needs to go away for a long, long time. She is scary.

BTW, I wonder if people would be less sympathetic if it were a man who did all of these things.

[joec]

[quote=CA renter][quote=joec]Article in UT about this today:
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/jul/18/tp-rape-ad-case-moves-forward/%5B/quote%5D

One step closer to justice! I wish the felony identity theft charges hadn’t been reduced to misdemeanors, though. This woman needs to go away for a long, long time. She is scary.

BTW, I wonder if people would be less sympathetic if it were a man who did all of these things.[/quote]

Also, how would people feel if she “was” actually attacked by someone responding to the ads?

Just talking to my wife, women sound much more worried with scary looking men in general staring at them, stalking them, etc…where as a guy, I tend to not be afraid of most near any guy walking about…

I’d assume most men would find it refreshing when women actually come up and be friendly to them.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=CA renter]
BTW, I wonder if people would be less sympathetic if it were a man who did all of these things.[/quote]

I think the reaction would be worse if she were a Black women on welfare, with 5 kids, living in Skyline. She would have been put away for a long time already.

edit: actually that was a stupid comment because a person on welfare would not be bidding on a house in Carmel Valley.

[njtosd]

[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=CA renter]
BTW, I wonder if people would be less sympathetic if it were a man who did all of these things.[/quote]

I think the reaction would be worse if she were a Black women on welfare, with 5 kids, living in Skyline. She would have been put away for a long time already.

edit: actually that was a stupid comment because a person on welfare would not be bidding on a house in Carmel Valley.[/quote]

You may be right, although it’s hard to tease out the effect of quality of counsel when dealing with comparisons between people of different economic circumstances.

This was such a crazy (and extended) response. I can see being very disappointed in the short term – and although I wouldn’t agree with it, it wouldn’t surprise me for someone like Kathy Rowe to act spitefully for a few days after losing the house. The thing is, she was able to keep up a pretty significant level of anger (somewhat obsessively) for what appears to be weeks after the victim closed on the home. For this reason, I would say this is something of a one-off, and as such it’s hard to compare how others (men, black women) would have been treated.

[krowe]

I agree with you that my actions were offensive, selfish, malicious, intrusive, and very immature. They could have created a dangerous situation for this innocent family.

This behavior is completely the opposite of how I normally am and was caused by some extraordinary circumstances. As soon as the circumstance ended, I was able to think clearly, realized what I was doing and how wrong it was, and immediately stopped.

I wrote the family a 3 page letter expressing how sorry I was for my behavior and the impact it had on them. I insisted on paying all of their out of pocket costs up front. I wanted to do more to make amends, but at that point it was all I could do.

I have already received very serious consequences (public humiliation, termination, astronomical attorney costs, and 2 years of absolute terror from the legal process). Please don’t interpret this as whining or complaining….I accept that my actions warranted significant consequences. I just want to point out that experiencing dismay about my behavior (to the point of being suicidal) and receiving punishment occurs long before being sentenced. I truly wish I could be whipped in the public square (like the old days) so I could have a punishment that would only affect me. The only thing prison would do is to deprive my terminally ill husband and disabled daughter from their only caretaker.

I appreciate your giving me a chance to explain. And I realize there is no explanation that would make my behavior acceptable. It’s even difficult for my behavior to be understandable unless you experienced the circumstances I did which were the underlying cause of my actions.

Thank you.
Kathy

[NotCranky]

[quote=krowe]I agree with you that my actions were offensive, selfish, malicious, intrusive, and very immature. They could have created a dangerous situation for this innocent family.

This behavior is completely the opposite of how I normally am and was caused by some extraordinary circumstances. As soon as the circumstance ended, I was able to think clearly, realized what I was doing and how wrong it was, and immediately stopped.

I wrote the family a 3 page letter expressing how sorry I was for my behavior and the impact it had on them. I insisted on paying all of their out of pocket costs up front. I wanted to do more to make amends, but at that point it was all I could do.

I have already received very serious consequences (public humiliation, termination, astronomical attorney costs, and 2 years of absolute terror from the legal process). Please don’t interpret this as whining or complaining….I accept that my actions warranted significant consequences. I just want to point out that experiencing dismay about my behavior (to the point of being suicidal) and receiving punishment occurs long before being sentenced. I truly wish I could be whipped in the public square (like the old days) so I could have a punishment that would only affect me. The only thing prison would do is to deprive my terminally ill husband and disabled daughter from their only caretaker.

I appreciate your giving me a chance to explain. And I realize there is no explanation that would make my behavior acceptable. It’s even difficult for my behavior to be understandable unless you experienced the circumstances I did which were the underlying cause of my actions.

Thank you.
Kathy[/quote]

Serious Criminal use of your free will is the reason. I am sure you are somewhat crazy but our solution for that seems to be homelessness and that’s too good for you and you don’t seem to be wanting this thing to look like any thing but a prank and a slip-up, not mental illness. As far a sob story I am sure your story is sad. So is everybody else’s who goes to jail. Everybody has the same punishment starts before going to jail so why do you think you are special for that? It’s called do the crime do the time, all of it.

I would like that you go to jail and I am pretty soft on crime. I sincerely hope your family will get basic needs met or better , but by someone else., even if at tax payer expense. It’s easy to imagine they will.

Be glad that a trial is available for you if our society couldn’t afford that you might get the street justice you can easily pretend is better and would fix everything, since it isn’t going to happen.

[krowe]

You are correct that it was mental illness that occurs when you are extremely stressed and goes away when the stress does. I submitted 2 reports from Psychologists and a Psychiatrist, along with several health physicians, documenting this to the DA, FBI, and court. In addition to the mental illness, I also had very severe sleep deprivation.

The “prank” comment came from what I thought the actions were when I was doing them, not what I viewed them as afterwards (or now).

If I already feel horrendous for what I did, have received significant punishment, and have made significant amends to the family, what is the reason why you would want me to go to jail. I am not dangerous (these activities occurred and stopped many years ago) and I already feel horrible for what I did…jail can’t make me feel worse. If it won’t benefit me or society, I am struggling to understand if it’s simply retribution or some other reason that you believe I deserve jail.

[NotCranky]

Because while painful i suspect everything that you did for your victims is CYA. You want sympathy because you are spending money on attorneys? Get a fricken clue. Talk about entitlement.

If everybody got to plead all this sob story stuff they would be no need for prisons. Most evil doers simply don’t have the funds to attempt to make retribution or know it won’t do any good anyway. Why should money or your attempts to save yourself present a different justice system for you? You’ll be crazy or not depending on how it works for you.

I believe in jail for you because I see anything else as special privilege and the things you did are vile and your pleas here ,and most likely everywhere, are pathetic.

You are so nice why don’t you plead guilty and save society all the trouble. Oh Yeah because that would hurt YOU worse.

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