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ParticipantHow does an agent or broker on this blog know that these anonymous posters are potential clients or snoops? yes I agree that the information is available publically and that is nothing new. It is obviously a lot easier to get at and sift through than it has been. I agree that all should have access to it and go after it if they want to. I am questioning if it is appropriate for me, when I generally have advantages accessing and interpreting this sensitive information, spelling it our publically.Also, how would piggingtonians feel if it were them being exposed?
My experience is that people are touchy about this stuff so I try to respect that, It is not about hiding pertinent information.Agents are supposed to disclose any interest in a property. Another way to be sure is ask the agent to diclose it in writing: Ask for:
Any Relationship with owner or participating agents.Ask if they have done work with the listing or selling agent and how often. Ask if the commission being offered is unusually high.
BTW more and more people are coming to me and saying “I want to see this, this and this house” So it kind of takes the possiblity of hidden agenda on my part out of it.(Yes commissions should be lower if sellers and buyers are connecting on their own or rebates should be higher if a buyer is identifying and driving by all properties they want to investigate.)It is great that everyone can find the physical details and photos and maps of all the houses they might be interested in on the Net. This is what should cause changes in the RE sales industry more than easy access to public records.
I think we have been sharing the information here to satisfy our curiousity about price declines. That seems O.K.
to me. It just takes price history to do that.Anyway I wonder if the Realtors here think there is an ethical fine line? Or is this just my own standard? Of course non-Realtors like Temecula guy can do what ever they want to do.
ParticipantHow does an agent or broker on this blog know that these anonymous posters are potential clients or snoops? yes I agree that the information is available publically and that is nothing new. It is obviously a lot easier to get at and sift through than it has been. I agree that all should have access to it and go after it if they want to. I am questioning if it is appropriate for me, when I generally have advantages accessing and interpreting this sensitive information, spelling it our publically.Also, how would piggingtonians feel if it were them being exposed?
My experience is that people are touchy about this stuff so I try to respect that, It is not about hiding pertinent information.Agents are supposed to disclose any interest in a property. Another way to be sure is ask the agent to diclose it in writing: Ask for:
Any Relationship with owner or participating agents.Ask if they have done work with the listing or selling agent and how often. Ask if the commission being offered is unusually high.
BTW more and more people are coming to me and saying “I want to see this, this and this house” So it kind of takes the possiblity of hidden agenda on my part out of it.(Yes commissions should be lower if sellers and buyers are connecting on their own or rebates should be higher if a buyer is identifying and driving by all properties they want to investigate.)It is great that everyone can find the physical details and photos and maps of all the houses they might be interested in on the Net. This is what should cause changes in the RE sales industry more than easy access to public records.
I think we have been sharing the information here to satisfy our curiousity about price declines. That seems O.K.
to me. It just takes price history to do that.Anyway I wonder if the Realtors here think there is an ethical fine line? Or is this just my own standard? Of course non-Realtors like Temecula guy can do what ever they want to do.
ParticipantThe good thing about the MLS used to be that it kept peoples privacy between neighbors and the information was shared as pertinent to a transaction only. I can’t get over the feeling that if I provide you that information that I am giving away secrets that I shouldn’t. I see people come on here and give the whole life story or down payments, loans,sales, bank activity ect. on a specific property,while the person going through it might still live there or be a known entity. I know there are others sources of that information but I still feel it is incorrect to spell it out publically. I just wonder how we would feel to find that agents were doing that about us on piggington’s.
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In your case I will say this. It looks like a regular MLS sale your 540k appears correct and the Builder sold it in Dec.2005 for 645k.Other Realtors: I am not bashing you guys so feel free to tell me I am too old school or something like that. Just doesn’t feel right to me to be potentially exposing a person to their neigbors or co-workers or others using our advantage to find and analyze information?
ParticipantThe good thing about the MLS used to be that it kept peoples privacy between neighbors and the information was shared as pertinent to a transaction only. I can’t get over the feeling that if I provide you that information that I am giving away secrets that I shouldn’t. I see people come on here and give the whole life story or down payments, loans,sales, bank activity ect. on a specific property,while the person going through it might still live there or be a known entity. I know there are others sources of that information but I still feel it is incorrect to spell it out publically. I just wonder how we would feel to find that agents were doing that about us on piggington’s.
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In your case I will say this. It looks like a regular MLS sale your 540k appears correct and the Builder sold it in Dec.2005 for 645k.Other Realtors: I am not bashing you guys so feel free to tell me I am too old school or something like that. Just doesn’t feel right to me to be potentially exposing a person to their neigbors or co-workers or others using our advantage to find and analyze information?
Participant32,000 square feet is about 3/4 of an acre.
This:”Good point. Let’s assume it’s approved for as many condos as regulations will allow. My friend’s received approval to build an 8-story condo tower with 5 units/floor, another 20 townhomes in two rows of 10 each, and a clubhouse and pool. The land is on a hillside so every unit as well as the clubhouse and pool will have an ocean view. I’m thinking the units will be 2br/bath of around 1200 square feet each.”…
Would take around a couple of acres min probably more like 3. If it were zoned for 5 story condo towers I doubt anyone would build row homes. Why not a bigger condo project and double the units to around 120? Like sdr said,if a lot like that was zoned for and could accomodate that project, it would be very pricey.Bugs could probably say. Keep in mind it is never going to happen on 32,000 square feet .
Participant32,000 square feet is about 3/4 of an acre.
This:”Good point. Let’s assume it’s approved for as many condos as regulations will allow. My friend’s received approval to build an 8-story condo tower with 5 units/floor, another 20 townhomes in two rows of 10 each, and a clubhouse and pool. The land is on a hillside so every unit as well as the clubhouse and pool will have an ocean view. I’m thinking the units will be 2br/bath of around 1200 square feet each.”…
Would take around a couple of acres min probably more like 3. If it were zoned for 5 story condo towers I doubt anyone would build row homes. Why not a bigger condo project and double the units to around 120? Like sdr said,if a lot like that was zoned for and could accomodate that project, it would be very pricey.Bugs could probably say. Keep in mind it is never going to happen on 32,000 square feet .
Participant“jg, for such a ‘newshound’, you sure get it wrong a lot. Your ‘point’ about fighting them over there was so laced with irony and fallicious logic I just don’t know where to begin.”
How about “terrorism” is the best war a long term oppressed region can wage and if we were in their shoes we would do the same thing,under the name of Jesus Christ instead of ALLAH of course. Since we have a big fancy and oh so Importantly “AMERICAN” war machine our invasions and killing including “collateral” damage are legitimate.Even if we are doing it for oil and the rights of the few to squeeze the profits off brokering that product. As long as it makes our standard of living better it is O.K. Hey history shows those people are a bunch of hot head losers anyway, lets just kill them and take everything they have.Rebuild their oil economy favorable to our little fascist global village leadership and move on. What’s not justifiable about that? If they won’t let us install a puppet goverment or make a “Kingdom” with a bought and sold king, what else are we supposed to do take a hit to our way of life? What are you a ^$%%^#^#**( COMMIE?
“If you are not one of us you are one of them(and you will be treated accordingly).” How is that for fallicious logic and opressive proganda? The jackass who mumbles that gets elected twice? Hey, don’t miss the Independence day sales on the latest and greatest gas guzzlers . Don’t waste all that “Freedom” our troops are killing and dieing for.
Participant“jg, for such a ‘newshound’, you sure get it wrong a lot. Your ‘point’ about fighting them over there was so laced with irony and fallicious logic I just don’t know where to begin.”
How about “terrorism” is the best war a long term oppressed region can wage and if we were in their shoes we would do the same thing,under the name of Jesus Christ instead of ALLAH of course. Since we have a big fancy and oh so Importantly “AMERICAN” war machine our invasions and killing including “collateral” damage are legitimate.Even if we are doing it for oil and the rights of the few to squeeze the profits off brokering that product. As long as it makes our standard of living better it is O.K. Hey history shows those people are a bunch of hot head losers anyway, lets just kill them and take everything they have.Rebuild their oil economy favorable to our little fascist global village leadership and move on. What’s not justifiable about that? If they won’t let us install a puppet goverment or make a “Kingdom” with a bought and sold king, what else are we supposed to do take a hit to our way of life? What are you a ^$%%^#^#**( COMMIE?
“If you are not one of us you are one of them(and you will be treated accordingly).” How is that for fallicious logic and opressive proganda? The jackass who mumbles that gets elected twice? Hey, don’t miss the Independence day sales on the latest and greatest gas guzzlers . Don’t waste all that “Freedom” our troops are killing and dieing for.
Participantsdr I think the original post posed a little bit of a baited question and we are lucky to have not gotten slaughtered . Kudos to piggingtonians for mostly showing restraint.Perhaps it is because they realize they will be using SDR when the time comes?
Participantsdr I think the original post posed a little bit of a baited question and we are lucky to have not gotten slaughtered . Kudos to piggingtonians for mostly showing restraint.Perhaps it is because they realize they will be using SDR when the time comes?
ParticipantPerry try Super Cocina on University about 37th on the south side. It is so good, guaranteed not to overeat. If you want soup ask for Pozole,with lime,lettuce, onion and cilantro and tostada(cruncy tortilla)for condiments to throw on top of the soup. Unless I am there you will be the only gringo. Take friends,you will be a hero to them it is that good. They let you taste little samples of anything and everything. I have never ever gotten Montezumas revenge there so it is a little less authentic then being in Mexico but thats O.K.
ParticipantPerry try Super Cocina on University about 37th on the south side. It is so good, guaranteed not to overeat. If you want soup ask for Pozole,with lime,lettuce, onion and cilantro and tostada(cruncy tortilla)for condiments to throw on top of the soup. Unless I am there you will be the only gringo. Take friends,you will be a hero to them it is that good. They let you taste little samples of anything and everything. I have never ever gotten Montezumas revenge there so it is a little less authentic then being in Mexico but thats O.K.
ParticipantPerry, I would side with you, but who has the politcal will to be very progressive? It seems like posturing up to the attitudes of the constituents ruls the day at election time and status quo rules at all others.Name one person who is universally progressive and in in politics or could get appointed by them.Yeah I am too demanding. I couldn’t listen to Rush limbaugh speak for more than thirty seconds no matter what my leanings were. I instantly get the feeling I need to start ducking globs of spit shooting out of my radio anytime he speaks.Yuck!
ParticipantPerry, I would side with you, but who has the politcal will to be very progressive? It seems like posturing up to the attitudes of the constituents ruls the day at election time and status quo rules at all others.Name one person who is universally progressive and in in politics or could get appointed by them.Yeah I am too demanding. I couldn’t listen to Rush limbaugh speak for more than thirty seconds no matter what my leanings were. I instantly get the feeling I need to start ducking globs of spit shooting out of my radio anytime he speaks.Yuck!
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