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Participant[quote=danielwis]Has there ever been a proposition to rescind a proposition? It seems voters have buyers remorse afterwards when they find out how expensive some of these propositions become.[/quote]
Prop 27 this cycle proposes to repeal prop 11 of 2008.
The original Prop 11 (of 2008) took away the task of redistricting (for assembly districts) away from CA legislature. Prop 27 attempts to invalidate that.
Needless to say, most politicians (starting from Nancy Pelosi and down) are supporting Prop.27. PLEASE VOTE NO ON PROP 27. Politicians should not decide their own districts. It perpetuates incumbency.
To confuse matters further, there is Prop. 20 on the ballot which basically says the opposite and even takes away the power to redistrict congressional districts away from legislature. (Hopefully you will vote YES on that.)
If both prop. 20 and 27 pass, the one with maximum votes wins….
enron_by_the_sea
Participant[quote=danielwis]Has there ever been a proposition to rescind a proposition? It seems voters have buyers remorse afterwards when they find out how expensive some of these propositions become.[/quote]
Prop 27 this cycle proposes to repeal prop 11 of 2008.
The original Prop 11 (of 2008) took away the task of redistricting (for assembly districts) away from CA legislature. Prop 27 attempts to invalidate that.
Needless to say, most politicians (starting from Nancy Pelosi and down) are supporting Prop.27. PLEASE VOTE NO ON PROP 27. Politicians should not decide their own districts. It perpetuates incumbency.
To confuse matters further, there is Prop. 20 on the ballot which basically says the opposite and even takes away the power to redistrict congressional districts away from legislature. (Hopefully you will vote YES on that.)
If both prop. 20 and 27 pass, the one with maximum votes wins….
enron_by_the_sea
ParticipantGuys:
You are missing the points on prop.s
Most prop.s are trying to accomplish things and fighting battles that should be fought in the legislature. That is why we elect these people. If they are not doing those job, the right course of action is to pressure them to accomplish it and change them if needed.
To put some law on the ballot and have people who have less than 10 minutes to decide on issues is the worst way we can run this state. This leads to misleading prop.s, special interests pushing their agendas and 30-second soundbites on TV. This is lawmaking at its worst.
Prop.s should only serve as a check on legislature. Passing one should be a rarity.
Public, please leave legislating to the legislature!!! Your job is to shape the legislature, not to replace them!!!
enron_by_the_sea
ParticipantGuys:
You are missing the points on prop.s
Most prop.s are trying to accomplish things and fighting battles that should be fought in the legislature. That is why we elect these people. If they are not doing those job, the right course of action is to pressure them to accomplish it and change them if needed.
To put some law on the ballot and have people who have less than 10 minutes to decide on issues is the worst way we can run this state. This leads to misleading prop.s, special interests pushing their agendas and 30-second soundbites on TV. This is lawmaking at its worst.
Prop.s should only serve as a check on legislature. Passing one should be a rarity.
Public, please leave legislating to the legislature!!! Your job is to shape the legislature, not to replace them!!!
enron_by_the_sea
ParticipantGuys:
You are missing the points on prop.s
Most prop.s are trying to accomplish things and fighting battles that should be fought in the legislature. That is why we elect these people. If they are not doing those job, the right course of action is to pressure them to accomplish it and change them if needed.
To put some law on the ballot and have people who have less than 10 minutes to decide on issues is the worst way we can run this state. This leads to misleading prop.s, special interests pushing their agendas and 30-second soundbites on TV. This is lawmaking at its worst.
Prop.s should only serve as a check on legislature. Passing one should be a rarity.
Public, please leave legislating to the legislature!!! Your job is to shape the legislature, not to replace them!!!
enron_by_the_sea
ParticipantGuys:
You are missing the points on prop.s
Most prop.s are trying to accomplish things and fighting battles that should be fought in the legislature. That is why we elect these people. If they are not doing those job, the right course of action is to pressure them to accomplish it and change them if needed.
To put some law on the ballot and have people who have less than 10 minutes to decide on issues is the worst way we can run this state. This leads to misleading prop.s, special interests pushing their agendas and 30-second soundbites on TV. This is lawmaking at its worst.
Prop.s should only serve as a check on legislature. Passing one should be a rarity.
Public, please leave legislating to the legislature!!! Your job is to shape the legislature, not to replace them!!!
enron_by_the_sea
ParticipantGuys:
You are missing the points on prop.s
Most prop.s are trying to accomplish things and fighting battles that should be fought in the legislature. That is why we elect these people. If they are not doing those job, the right course of action is to pressure them to accomplish it and change them if needed.
To put some law on the ballot and have people who have less than 10 minutes to decide on issues is the worst way we can run this state. This leads to misleading prop.s, special interests pushing their agendas and 30-second soundbites on TV. This is lawmaking at its worst.
Prop.s should only serve as a check on legislature. Passing one should be a rarity.
Public, please leave legislating to the legislature!!! Your job is to shape the legislature, not to replace them!!!
enron_by_the_sea
ParticipantUsually I vote NO on all propostions unless they can convince me that
1. It needs to be really really really done.
2. It really can only be done by voters i.e. legislature can not/will not do it.Thus the only proposition worthy of my YES vote this cycle is proposition 20 – the one that takes away the job of redistricting away from CA legislature.
enron_by_the_sea
ParticipantUsually I vote NO on all propostions unless they can convince me that
1. It needs to be really really really done.
2. It really can only be done by voters i.e. legislature can not/will not do it.Thus the only proposition worthy of my YES vote this cycle is proposition 20 – the one that takes away the job of redistricting away from CA legislature.
enron_by_the_sea
ParticipantUsually I vote NO on all propostions unless they can convince me that
1. It needs to be really really really done.
2. It really can only be done by voters i.e. legislature can not/will not do it.Thus the only proposition worthy of my YES vote this cycle is proposition 20 – the one that takes away the job of redistricting away from CA legislature.
enron_by_the_sea
ParticipantUsually I vote NO on all propostions unless they can convince me that
1. It needs to be really really really done.
2. It really can only be done by voters i.e. legislature can not/will not do it.Thus the only proposition worthy of my YES vote this cycle is proposition 20 – the one that takes away the job of redistricting away from CA legislature.
enron_by_the_sea
ParticipantUsually I vote NO on all propostions unless they can convince me that
1. It needs to be really really really done.
2. It really can only be done by voters i.e. legislature can not/will not do it.Thus the only proposition worthy of my YES vote this cycle is proposition 20 – the one that takes away the job of redistricting away from CA legislature.
enron_by_the_sea
Participant[quote=flu]
BTW: Do you know what the majority of those protestors that hold up the signs are actually protesting? Just curious…[/quote]I think I know this one. In sorrento valley, the proponents of “Shame on XYZ” are in dispute with a contractor(may be janitorial). The people behind the signs want the contractor to provide some benefits and the contractor refuses. So whereever the contractor provides services, the signs go up. (For example, if the contractor provides services to Qualcomm, the signs say “Shame on Qualcomm” giving the impression that somehow QC are a party to the dispute…)
enron_by_the_sea
Participant[quote=flu]
BTW: Do you know what the majority of those protestors that hold up the signs are actually protesting? Just curious…[/quote]I think I know this one. In sorrento valley, the proponents of “Shame on XYZ” are in dispute with a contractor(may be janitorial). The people behind the signs want the contractor to provide some benefits and the contractor refuses. So whereever the contractor provides services, the signs go up. (For example, if the contractor provides services to Qualcomm, the signs say “Shame on Qualcomm” giving the impression that somehow QC are a party to the dispute…)
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