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CoronitaParticipantIts just the start. Well see relaxed lending standards again. And people will bid up prices again. I can’t wait. Sell sell sell.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=paramount]
The American Spring is different than the Arab Spring.
The American Spring is America embracing anti-establishment candidates. Thoughtful Americans are sick and tired of the establishment.
Football and UFC will only get the establishment elites so far.
There, you’ve been corrected and updated.[/quote]
Some racist americans are sick and tired of seeing non-whites doing better than them and need Trump to reign non whites through laws that deliberately slows them down or turn them away.
Here’s a litmus test if you are a racist.
If you equate H1-B to indian and asians, you’re conveniently glossing over all the whites from Russia and Eastern Europe.There, you’ve been corrected and updated.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=utcsox][quote=flu]I’m not a big fan of Rubio also, but something he said hit spot on..
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Rubio said: “I’m very concerned about that. We don’t know what’s going to happen next here. I know that we’ve reached the point where people in American politics have decided that if they don’t agree with you, they can get angry at you, that you’re a bad and evil person, that they can say anything they want about you.”“I think that all the gates of civility have been blown apart. We’ve now reached a point where everyone on both sides everyone is just saying or doing whatever they want, and you know, you can’t just say or do whatever you want,” he said. “This is not about political correctness. This is about rules of civility and the way a society talks to each other.”
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Let’s dispel once and for all with this fiction that Little Marco doesn’t know what he’s talking about; he knows EXACTLY what he is talking about. See the paragraph below yourself. Remember, Little Marco is supposed to be a moderate RINO.
“Remember, Rubio is the candidate who says President Barack Obama is “undermining this country” as “part of a plan to weaken America on the global stage.” Rubio says of Obama that “all this damage that he’s done to America is deliberate.” He attacked the president’s choice to speak at a mosque as an example of his “constant pitting people against each other,” which is “hurting our country badly.”
Last month, when CNN asked Rubio’s spokesman Alex Conant whether the senator believes Obama is “intentionally trying to destroy the country,” Conant said “absolutely.”
http://www.businessinsider.com/marco-rubio-donald-trump-obama-2016-3%5B/quote%5D
Yes, I’m aware of this Marco flip flop, just like every other flip flop. Again, I’m not saying he’s a great guy. None of them are. But let’s face it, the only candidate from both party that is systematically demonstrating being a racist and inciting racism is Trump and only Trump.
I don’t have a problem any politician stating how horrible a job Obama did or how Hillary might be. That’s part of this political game. But people keep equating Trump “being an outsider” or being a “moderate” to excuse his alarming behavior. I don’t expect people who aren’t colored to understand, but this shit terrifies the fvck out of me.
I’m not latino, I’m not muslim, and I’m not indian, which apparently seems to be the order of Trump’s attacks. But enabling Trump, is like me wondering when is it my turn.
My votes, are in this particular order
1. Anyone but Trump
2. Anyone but Hillary
3. Anyone but CruzI haven’t decided between 2 and 3 yet. That might change. But 1 is definitely non negotiable.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=scaredyclassic][
Agree.
I was wrong for thinking trump was entertaining.
It is not funny anymore.
The republicans need to shut him down. Just change the rules and put someone not insane and preferably not Cruz on the ticket. Screw trump.[/quote]
This was never funny to begin with. I don’t care what side the politician is on. You can’t come out a say XYZ race/ethnicity isn’t bring their best or blame and entire faction. I don’t care if it’s white, black, latino, asian, blue, etc. The day he came out with the mexico isn’t sending their best, was the day I said he had to go. Even for a republican.
I’d like to see as a country, we’re better then this. Even from the GOP.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=joec]Trump’s a bully and mostly (like nearly ALL the candidates) looking out for himself, but calling him insane is a bit off I feel.
[/quote]He wasn’t insane until he started to campaign as such. For the most part, he appeared sane before his bid for the white house
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If he was truly insane, he would have squandered all his born wealth and would be a total failure with no marriages and living in a ditch or dead.
[/quote]Wrong. You equate financial success to sane people, and equate financial ruin to insane people. That can’t be further from the truth. There are plenty of evil people who are incredibly wealthy. Just look up David Duke. He’s richer than you are.
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From all data, I think it’s fair to say he was born a millionaire and made himself into a billionaire (how much, still over $1 bil)…more than what most people would amount to.
He also raised 3 kids which nearly all the press and people who know them state are decent and upstanding kids…especially Ivanka.
[/quote]Insane people are nice to their families and people who worship him. Name one nice thing that Trump said about anyone who isn’t white. You’re asian, I’m so surprised this doesn’t concern you. It might not be your fight for now, it will be.
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I think in the end, Trump is extremely calculating and has a good sense of what the mood/feel/whatever you want to call it is for people and uses it to make sure he’s getting his share/cut…and uses it to succeed.
[/quote]Yes calculated evil, and knowing exactly which buttons to push to get people so push forward his agenda. If I was religious, I would say he’s close enough to the anti-christ.
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It’s true he’s no conservative, but maybe that’s a good thing since there’s been ads against him for coming out and supporting universal health care
(my main concern in general) and other things “conservative” far right republicans would never support.
[/quote]People are mixing character with political viewpoint. Example: I might not like Obama. I might not even like Bernie for being a leftist socialist. However, Bernie doesn’t strike me as someone evil, not in what he says, not in what he does. Perhaps very misguided and what he would do would piss me off from a policy standpoint.
Trump lacks character. He takes paints himself a moderate for exactly the reasons that you just exhibit. To win you over on his political viewpoint, so he can get away with his agenda of his racist/devisive agenda, and with enough “moderate” people saying “well, he’s a moderate, and I agree with enough of his moderate viewpoints, hence he must be ok”.
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What I don’t get is why LEGAL immigrants want to support ILLEGAL immigrants who are probably affecting their financial and job prospects far more. Having more workers compete with you if you are legal doesn’t help you and I’d assume legal immigrants (Mexican, Asian, whoever) should be against all the freebees you see bantered about. Maybe it’s your family, but legal immigrants can bring them in legally as well…I don’t get this point.
[/quote]A lot of people keep saying illegals are hindering them financially. Let me ask exactly what did illegals do to hurt you personally financially? Welfare? What about the majority of welfare recipients being from southern states which are U.S. citizens? If we really want to talk about freebies, why not point the finger there. The percentage of welfare leeches from southern states is much larger than the freebies that illegals get. (I can’t believe as a republican, I just said that. But it’s true)
And let’s be frank, the reason why illegal alien exist is because of our government/social policies, not because of the illegal people themselves. If a politician really wants to solve the illegal alien problem, the solution is simple…stop giving financial incentives to people who come here who aren’t here legally. Get rid of welfare, healthcare, and entitlement benefits completely. Don’t blame the latinos, or asians, or what have you. Blame the policy and change the policy. In as much as why are people blaming H1-B people, when the blame should be directed at the few CEOs and companies that exploit the H1-B system?
I don’t know. If you aren’t white, be very very afraid right now. It might start with just illegal latinos, or muslims. But who’s to draw the line. There are already plenty of people pissed off at the H1-B blaming indians. There are plenty of people shut out of the housing market that are blaming the asians. If you enable Trump’s game, why do you think this sort of blaming is going to stop short of you, unless they don’t view you as a threat financially or socially. You aren’t white afterall. This is the entire problem I have with Trump’s supporters. Mix a bunch of mad people who are frustrated with being left behind, add a dash of racism to the mix, and you get a very scary bunch of people that want view you who isn’t white as a threat to their future who will do anything and back anything to “take you down”, even if it means to bully you over. And as an asian, you’ll get kicked around again.. Because once again, you wanted to play it safe, and didn’t think anything would happen to you. Asians get kicked around a lot, because a lot of asians let it happen.
You’ll always be a second class citizen no matter how successful you are, or how much money you have…no matter how much money you have, you won’t mind getting kicked around, and people will think you won’t mind getting kicked around.CoronitaParticipantI’m not a big fan of Rubio also, but something he said hit spot on..
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Rubio said: “I’m very concerned about that. We don’t know what’s going to happen next here. I know that we’ve reached the point where people in American politics have decided that if they don’t agree with you, they can get angry at you, that you’re a bad and evil person, that they can say anything they want about you.”“I think that all the gates of civility have been blown apart. We’ve now reached a point where everyone on both sides everyone is just saying or doing whatever they want, and you know, you can’t just say or do whatever you want,” he said. “This is not about political correctness. This is about rules of civility and the way a society talks to each other.”
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/13/politics/marco-rubio-donald-trump-support/index.html
CoronitaParticipant[quote=paramount][quote=zk][quote=paramount]The Chicago jails should be a full house tonight with disruptive Trump protesters.
At least I would hope so…[/quote]
So far all the violence I’ve seen has been perpetrated by Trump supporters, not protesters. Why would the jails be full of protesters?[/quote]
Oh, that’s just because you were watching CNN.
The socialist progressives and their victims were the ones that were actually breaking the law.[/quote]
Paramount. You really have lost it. I know you have this anti-extreme liberal thing. And to some extent, so did I wrto some of the ridiculous policies. But, for a minute, can you briefly take off the anger and hate that you have against apparently “liberals” and just think rationally for a second?
Look at this….
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trump-campaign-protests-20160313-story.html
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Donald Trump took a step toward supporting violent action by a supporter Sunday, saying that he had instructed his attorneys to look into paying the legal bills for a man charged last week with punching a protester who was being led out of a rally.The statement of potential financial support, which Trump made on NBCâs âMeet the Pressâ added a new and remarkable dimension to his presidential campaignâs flirtation with violence and again drew condemnation from a wide spectrum of politicians.
[/quote]Let’s put this in perspective for you… Let’s say someone found out who you are and your anti Obama stance. And let’s say someone goes to your house and kicks the living shit out of your kids or your wife, simply because he didn’t like your anti-obama stance, and he wanted you to STFU. And your wife is bleeding, your kids are roughed up…And they caught the guy who did it.. Obama saw the news in the headlines and says he’d offer to pay the perpetrator for his legal expenses for kicking the shit out of your wife and your kids, because Obama felt you were threatening (when in reality, he didn’t just like what you were saying about him and was glad your family got roughed up, since that would teach you a lesson)…. That would be OK, right?
This isn’t about left or right. This guy is insane. He’s a bully. Probably borderline mentally unstable. You might like him, because you feel the only way you’ll get “even” with whatever some imaginary adversary you have that apparently pisses you off. But stop and think about this. Is this really some guy you want to have his hands on a nuclear button? Is this the sort of behavior you want your kids growing up to learn? That if in life you can’t get your way, that’s it’s ok to find a bunch of people to rough up other people? Think. The next 4 years and probably 8, you’re going to have to live with that choice you make not just for yourself but for your kids.
People keep saying “it’s no big deal”. How much damage can a president do? Let me ask you this, how do you explain this sort of viewpoint to your kids, if he is president? What sort of message does it send to our younger generation? Are white people really that mad in that they really don’t want anyone that isn’t white to be in this country?
Trump is making Obama look like prince. And you know me, I never liked Obama, ever.
Trump isn’t a republican, he’s neither conservative nor is he a moderate. He’s just criminally insane and thinks rules, laws, human decency doesn’t apply to him.
CoronitaParticipantWell, Trump wanted racial tensions, he sure got it. Hispanics and latinos sure as hell aren’t going to take it….
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/12/politics/donald-trump-protests/index.html
CoronitaParticipant[quote=svelte]Do you two ever stay on topic?
You led a 30 post hi-jack discussing SF and LEDs on the “Predictions for 2016 Presidential Election” thread and now you’re at 5 posts and counting on Canada in the “Reasons I cannot vote for Trump” thread.[/quote]
Brian, quick open a jar of peanut butter and tell me what you smell…
CoronitaParticipant[quote=livinincali][quote=flu]Well, I have to congratulate Trump. He’s managed to undo any sort of progress America has made towards equality.
Welcome back to the 50ies-60ies….
Fairfax students taunt classmates ‘When Trump is president, you’ll be deported
http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article63230367.html
You know the shit is really bad when even Faux News is not spinning this in a positive light.
If what the say is true about “Lead by Example”, we’re really screwed if Donald is President.
I’m sorry to say this, but the GOP deserve to lose the white house in 2016. Any but that would be terribly disappointing.[/quote]
I’m not sure why we equate illegal immigration with legal immigration. Whom among the working class segment of a America benefits from illegal immigration. Do we really want to open our borders to un-vetted Middle East refugees, more H1-B visas and low skilled Latino workers. What purpose does it serve other than some sort of feel good moral superiority complex. It creates more competition for jobs and lower wages. It doesn’t seem to make much economic sense for the common middle class American.
It’s bad if we assume and treat every Latino person as an illegal, but I don’t see Trump advocating that position.[/quote]
I am sure Hitler didn’t advocate gassing Jews either.
A president might not directly advocate that position but as a leader, you know targeting Latinos with an outlandish statement that generalizes all in specific ethnicity has huge repercussions.
Would you advocate saying since a lot of murders in Chicago are done by black gang members, that it is OK for a political leader like trump to say, African Americans are not keeping their best in America, blacks are all gang members and drug dealers. So what is the difference?
People keep rationalizing all this ethnic backlash is not Trump’s fault because he isn’t a direct advocate of it. That’s not true. He intentionally stirs the pot to incite racial and cultural tensions. Its no different than someone trying to invite a riot. And we have laws against that too.
I might not be the direct target of Trump’s backlash and his followers, as I am not Latino nor Muslim. But how does the saying go? When the came for the Jews, you did nothing. When the came for the Japs, you did nothing. When the came for the blacks, you did nothing. Now they are coming for you. Do you expect anyone to do anything for you?
CoronitaParticipantWell, I have to congratulate Trump. He’s managed to undo any sort of progress America has made towards equality.
Welcome back to the 50ies-60ies….
Fairfax students taunt classmates ‘When Trump is president, you’ll be deported
http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article63230367.html
You know the shit is really bad when even Faux News is not spinning this in a positive light.
If what the say is true about “Lead by Example”, we’re really screwed if Donald is President.
I’m sorry to say this, but the GOP deserve to lose the white house in 2016. Any but that would be terribly disappointing.
CoronitaParticipantI’m still watching the bay area for a sign of a general tech slow down….
$846 per square foot in Santa Clara…., not even in the better areas like Palo Alto or Cupertino or even Mountain View.
So, that would be a no.
CoronitaParticipantH.F.S….
CNN actually did an article on this? Are you F.K.M?
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/08/health/trump-small-hands-penis/index.html
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I wish Colin Powell would run. I’d vote for that man for sure. But in today’s environment he wouldn’t win anyway since he wouldn’t pander to the extreme voters.
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