[Coronita]

 dharmagirl,

I was being a half smart ass when i wrote my comment. But in all seriousness, you might want to rent a small safety deposit box at a bank to keep any and all small precious things such as jewelry, charms, collectibles etc "just in case". A landlord most likely always has a key, and I would definitely be concerned if my landlord was deeply upside-down and gets desperate, if you know what i mean. 

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—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

 dharmagirl,

I was being a half smart ass when i wrote my comment. But in all seriousness, you might want to rent a small safety deposit box at a bank to keep any and all small precious things such as jewelry, charms, collectibles etc "just in case". A landlord most likely always has a key, and I would definitely be concerned if my landlord was deeply upside-down and gets desperate, if you know what i mean. 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

 dharmagirl,

I was being a half smart ass when i wrote my comment. But in all seriousness, you might want to rent a small safety deposit box at a bank to keep any and all small precious things such as jewelry, charms, collectibles etc "just in case". A landlord most likely always has a key, and I would definitely be concerned if my landlord was deeply upside-down and gets desperate, if you know what i mean. 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

 dharmagirl,

I was being a half smart ass when i wrote my comment. But in all seriousness, you might want to rent a small safety deposit box at a bank to keep any and all small precious things such as jewelry, charms, collectibles etc "just in case". A landlord most likely always has a key, and I would definitely be concerned if my landlord was deeply upside-down and gets desperate, if you know what i mean. 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[Coronita]

Proposal:

 

Initial Installation Costs:
– Estimate of Guard Station, including utilities $85,000.00 (ea)
– Estimate of Video Surveillance System $20,000.00 (per gate)
– Estimate of Gate Access System $20,000

[Coronita]

Proposal:

 

Initial Installation Costs:
– Estimate of Guard Station, including utilities $85,000.00 (ea)
– Estimate of Video Surveillance System $20,000.00 (per gate)
– Estimate of Gate Access System $20,000

[Coronita]

Proposal:

 

Initial Installation Costs:
– Estimate of Guard Station, including utilities $85,000.00 (ea)
– Estimate of Video Surveillance System $20,000.00 (per gate)
– Estimate of Gate Access System $20,000

[Coronita]

Proposal:

 

Initial Installation Costs:
– Estimate of Guard Station, including utilities $85,000.00 (ea)
– Estimate of Video Surveillance System $20,000.00 (per gate)
– Estimate of Gate Access System $20,000

[Coronita]

Proposal:

 

Initial Installation Costs:
– Estimate of Guard Station, including utilities $85,000.00 (ea)
– Estimate of Video Surveillance System $20,000.00 (per gate)
– Estimate of Gate Access System $20,000

[Coronita]

Well, I'll post the contents then 🙂

 

MANNED GATE PROPOSAL FOR GREER RANCH
QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
Revised 3/17/2008
1. Why do we need manned guarded gates in Greer Ranch? Have we had any incidents in or around Greer Ranch in which residents should be concerned?

Yes, recently there was a person who entered the community and stabbed his estranged wife who was living there with her relatives. Additionally, there was a black truck seen in Greer Ranch on two occasions, one on Halloween night about a year ago, attempting to stop and talk to young girls in such a way that it scared them. Within the same time period there was an attempted abduction at Antelope
Elementary School just across Clinton-Keith from our development. There was also a report by the roving guard concerning what he thought may have been a black Cadillac parked close to the Artisan homes with two men selling drugs. A few months ago someone’s car was stolen from their garage. Just within the past month there was an intoxicated non-resident driving in Greer at a very high speed who had a car accident and did major damage to our fence on Crabapple. He
certainly could have hit one of our residents. There was another incident within the past few days of an old Cadillac with four men in it driving slowly down several streets, at first with lights on, and later with them off. Fortunately, a resident noticed this and called the police. Most of these offenders would either have been prevented from entering our community or caught when trying to exit.

 

2. Why not just close the gates? Why do we need manned guarded gates?
Closing the gates would certainly be better than leaving them open as they
currently are during the day. However, just closing the gates doesn’t provide
much additional help with unauthorized traffic entering our community. It does
address unauthorized vehicles following residents through the gate – when the
gate is closed – assuming we put in an additional arm so only one resident can
enter the association at a time. However, there are still many problems with this
approach. First, we can’t close the gates during the day yet. The builders per the
CC&Rs have the right to leave the gates open until they leave – which could be
more than a year from now.
Additionally, since there’s no one there to monitor the gates, some people will
just break the arm and the gate and enter anyway. We’ve already had several
incidences of people breaking the gate and entering.
Also, with unmanned gates you would still need to give a guest pass code to your
cleaning service, your gardener, your contractor, UPS, all who come when you’re
at work. This gives them the ability to come through the gate any time they want.
Worse — what happens when you change service providers? Then even more
people have pass codes to enter Greer Ranch. Multiply this by almost 700 homes,
and you have a lot of unauthorized access. This is on top of the lack of
unauthorized access we have until the builders are finished building – which
would also be addressed with manned gates.

3. What is the proposal?
Build guard villas on the island at the Greer Rd and Nutmeg entrances.
Additionally install an extra arm at these two gates so only one car can enter at a
time. This will eliminate cars following residents in before the gate closes. As
soon as the arm goes up and lets one car through, it closes and the main gate
opens. Additionally, to facilitate traffic flow homeowners will have a separate
lane (the current guest lane) and the guests will use the current resident lane.
Also the Evandel gate will be an exit only gate. There will be noise-resistant tiger
teeth installed at the exit gate to prevent cars from entering the exit gate before it
closes.
One of gates with a guard villa will be manned 24 hours per day. The second gate
with the guard villa will be manned 8 hours per day – during the peak traffic
times.
Video technology will be installed to monitor drivers and license plates so we
know all cars that enter at all times of the day. Thus, if a crime occurs and we
know the approximate time, we can narrow down the suspects.
Video technology will also enable the 24-hour manned guarded gate to check a
visitor’s driver’s license ID remotely against the visitor list just as if he were in
front of the individual. He can talk to the visitor remotely and open the gate if the
visitor is authorized.
To help ensure only authorized guests enter our community, residents will contact
the guard villa and provide a guest list that includes their guest’s name and date
expected. The guard will validate the guest’s identity against their driver’s license
and provide a guest pass with expiration date. This way when residents move or
change gardeners or other service providers, these guests will no longer be able to
use old guest pass codes and enter the Association. The roving guard will
address guests on premises whose guest pass has expired.
We will also be implementing resident car stickers before the manned gates are
implemented. This will allow the roving guard to note immediately unauthorized
vehicles within our community.

 ———————-
Project Assumptions:

[Coronita]

Well, I'll post the contents then 🙂

 

MANNED GATE PROPOSAL FOR GREER RANCH
QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
Revised 3/17/2008
1. Why do we need manned guarded gates in Greer Ranch? Have we had any incidents in or around Greer Ranch in which residents should be concerned?

Yes, recently there was a person who entered the community and stabbed his estranged wife who was living there with her relatives. Additionally, there was a black truck seen in Greer Ranch on two occasions, one on Halloween night about a year ago, attempting to stop and talk to young girls in such a way that it scared them. Within the same time period there was an attempted abduction at Antelope
Elementary School just across Clinton-Keith from our development. There was also a report by the roving guard concerning what he thought may have been a black Cadillac parked close to the Artisan homes with two men selling drugs. A few months ago someone’s car was stolen from their garage. Just within the past month there was an intoxicated non-resident driving in Greer at a very high speed who had a car accident and did major damage to our fence on Crabapple. He
certainly could have hit one of our residents. There was another incident within the past few days of an old Cadillac with four men in it driving slowly down several streets, at first with lights on, and later with them off. Fortunately, a resident noticed this and called the police. Most of these offenders would either have been prevented from entering our community or caught when trying to exit.

 

2. Why not just close the gates? Why do we need manned guarded gates?
Closing the gates would certainly be better than leaving them open as they
currently are during the day. However, just closing the gates doesn’t provide
much additional help with unauthorized traffic entering our community. It does
address unauthorized vehicles following residents through the gate – when the
gate is closed – assuming we put in an additional arm so only one resident can
enter the association at a time. However, there are still many problems with this
approach. First, we can’t close the gates during the day yet. The builders per the
CC&Rs have the right to leave the gates open until they leave – which could be
more than a year from now.
Additionally, since there’s no one there to monitor the gates, some people will
just break the arm and the gate and enter anyway. We’ve already had several
incidences of people breaking the gate and entering.
Also, with unmanned gates you would still need to give a guest pass code to your
cleaning service, your gardener, your contractor, UPS, all who come when you’re
at work. This gives them the ability to come through the gate any time they want.
Worse — what happens when you change service providers? Then even more
people have pass codes to enter Greer Ranch. Multiply this by almost 700 homes,
and you have a lot of unauthorized access. This is on top of the lack of
unauthorized access we have until the builders are finished building – which
would also be addressed with manned gates.

3. What is the proposal?
Build guard villas on the island at the Greer Rd and Nutmeg entrances.
Additionally install an extra arm at these two gates so only one car can enter at a
time. This will eliminate cars following residents in before the gate closes. As
soon as the arm goes up and lets one car through, it closes and the main gate
opens. Additionally, to facilitate traffic flow homeowners will have a separate
lane (the current guest lane) and the guests will use the current resident lane.
Also the Evandel gate will be an exit only gate. There will be noise-resistant tiger
teeth installed at the exit gate to prevent cars from entering the exit gate before it
closes.
One of gates with a guard villa will be manned 24 hours per day. The second gate
with the guard villa will be manned 8 hours per day – during the peak traffic
times.
Video technology will be installed to monitor drivers and license plates so we
know all cars that enter at all times of the day. Thus, if a crime occurs and we
know the approximate time, we can narrow down the suspects.
Video technology will also enable the 24-hour manned guarded gate to check a
visitor’s driver’s license ID remotely against the visitor list just as if he were in
front of the individual. He can talk to the visitor remotely and open the gate if the
visitor is authorized.
To help ensure only authorized guests enter our community, residents will contact
the guard villa and provide a guest list that includes their guest’s name and date
expected. The guard will validate the guest’s identity against their driver’s license
and provide a guest pass with expiration date. This way when residents move or
change gardeners or other service providers, these guests will no longer be able to
use old guest pass codes and enter the Association. The roving guard will
address guests on premises whose guest pass has expired.
We will also be implementing resident car stickers before the manned gates are
implemented. This will allow the roving guard to note immediately unauthorized
vehicles within our community.

 ———————-
Project Assumptions:

[Coronita]

Well, I'll post the contents then 🙂

 

MANNED GATE PROPOSAL FOR GREER RANCH
QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
Revised 3/17/2008
1. Why do we need manned guarded gates in Greer Ranch? Have we had any incidents in or around Greer Ranch in which residents should be concerned?

Yes, recently there was a person who entered the community and stabbed his estranged wife who was living there with her relatives. Additionally, there was a black truck seen in Greer Ranch on two occasions, one on Halloween night about a year ago, attempting to stop and talk to young girls in such a way that it scared them. Within the same time period there was an attempted abduction at Antelope
Elementary School just across Clinton-Keith from our development. There was also a report by the roving guard concerning what he thought may have been a black Cadillac parked close to the Artisan homes with two men selling drugs. A few months ago someone’s car was stolen from their garage. Just within the past month there was an intoxicated non-resident driving in Greer at a very high speed who had a car accident and did major damage to our fence on Crabapple. He
certainly could have hit one of our residents. There was another incident within the past few days of an old Cadillac with four men in it driving slowly down several streets, at first with lights on, and later with them off. Fortunately, a resident noticed this and called the police. Most of these offenders would either have been prevented from entering our community or caught when trying to exit.

 

2. Why not just close the gates? Why do we need manned guarded gates?
Closing the gates would certainly be better than leaving them open as they
currently are during the day. However, just closing the gates doesn’t provide
much additional help with unauthorized traffic entering our community. It does
address unauthorized vehicles following residents through the gate – when the
gate is closed – assuming we put in an additional arm so only one resident can
enter the association at a time. However, there are still many problems with this
approach. First, we can’t close the gates during the day yet. The builders per the
CC&Rs have the right to leave the gates open until they leave – which could be
more than a year from now.
Additionally, since there’s no one there to monitor the gates, some people will
just break the arm and the gate and enter anyway. We’ve already had several
incidences of people breaking the gate and entering.
Also, with unmanned gates you would still need to give a guest pass code to your
cleaning service, your gardener, your contractor, UPS, all who come when you’re
at work. This gives them the ability to come through the gate any time they want.
Worse — what happens when you change service providers? Then even more
people have pass codes to enter Greer Ranch. Multiply this by almost 700 homes,
and you have a lot of unauthorized access. This is on top of the lack of
unauthorized access we have until the builders are finished building – which
would also be addressed with manned gates.

3. What is the proposal?
Build guard villas on the island at the Greer Rd and Nutmeg entrances.
Additionally install an extra arm at these two gates so only one car can enter at a
time. This will eliminate cars following residents in before the gate closes. As
soon as the arm goes up and lets one car through, it closes and the main gate
opens. Additionally, to facilitate traffic flow homeowners will have a separate
lane (the current guest lane) and the guests will use the current resident lane.
Also the Evandel gate will be an exit only gate. There will be noise-resistant tiger
teeth installed at the exit gate to prevent cars from entering the exit gate before it
closes.
One of gates with a guard villa will be manned 24 hours per day. The second gate
with the guard villa will be manned 8 hours per day – during the peak traffic
times.
Video technology will be installed to monitor drivers and license plates so we
know all cars that enter at all times of the day. Thus, if a crime occurs and we
know the approximate time, we can narrow down the suspects.
Video technology will also enable the 24-hour manned guarded gate to check a
visitor’s driver’s license ID remotely against the visitor list just as if he were in
front of the individual. He can talk to the visitor remotely and open the gate if the
visitor is authorized.
To help ensure only authorized guests enter our community, residents will contact
the guard villa and provide a guest list that includes their guest’s name and date
expected. The guard will validate the guest’s identity against their driver’s license
and provide a guest pass with expiration date. This way when residents move or
change gardeners or other service providers, these guests will no longer be able to
use old guest pass codes and enter the Association. The roving guard will
address guests on premises whose guest pass has expired.
We will also be implementing resident car stickers before the manned gates are
implemented. This will allow the roving guard to note immediately unauthorized
vehicles within our community.

 ———————-
Project Assumptions:

[Coronita]

Well, I'll post the contents then 🙂

 

MANNED GATE PROPOSAL FOR GREER RANCH
QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
Revised 3/17/2008
1. Why do we need manned guarded gates in Greer Ranch? Have we had any incidents in or around Greer Ranch in which residents should be concerned?

Yes, recently there was a person who entered the community and stabbed his estranged wife who was living there with her relatives. Additionally, there was a black truck seen in Greer Ranch on two occasions, one on Halloween night about a year ago, attempting to stop and talk to young girls in such a way that it scared them. Within the same time period there was an attempted abduction at Antelope
Elementary School just across Clinton-Keith from our development. There was also a report by the roving guard concerning what he thought may have been a black Cadillac parked close to the Artisan homes with two men selling drugs. A few months ago someone’s car was stolen from their garage. Just within the past month there was an intoxicated non-resident driving in Greer at a very high speed who had a car accident and did major damage to our fence on Crabapple. He
certainly could have hit one of our residents. There was another incident within the past few days of an old Cadillac with four men in it driving slowly down several streets, at first with lights on, and later with them off. Fortunately, a resident noticed this and called the police. Most of these offenders would either have been prevented from entering our community or caught when trying to exit.

 

2. Why not just close the gates? Why do we need manned guarded gates?
Closing the gates would certainly be better than leaving them open as they
currently are during the day. However, just closing the gates doesn’t provide
much additional help with unauthorized traffic entering our community. It does
address unauthorized vehicles following residents through the gate – when the
gate is closed – assuming we put in an additional arm so only one resident can
enter the association at a time. However, there are still many problems with this
approach. First, we can’t close the gates during the day yet. The builders per the
CC&Rs have the right to leave the gates open until they leave – which could be
more than a year from now.
Additionally, since there’s no one there to monitor the gates, some people will
just break the arm and the gate and enter anyway. We’ve already had several
incidences of people breaking the gate and entering.
Also, with unmanned gates you would still need to give a guest pass code to your
cleaning service, your gardener, your contractor, UPS, all who come when you’re
at work. This gives them the ability to come through the gate any time they want.
Worse — what happens when you change service providers? Then even more
people have pass codes to enter Greer Ranch. Multiply this by almost 700 homes,
and you have a lot of unauthorized access. This is on top of the lack of
unauthorized access we have until the builders are finished building – which
would also be addressed with manned gates.

3. What is the proposal?
Build guard villas on the island at the Greer Rd and Nutmeg entrances.
Additionally install an extra arm at these two gates so only one car can enter at a
time. This will eliminate cars following residents in before the gate closes. As
soon as the arm goes up and lets one car through, it closes and the main gate
opens. Additionally, to facilitate traffic flow homeowners will have a separate
lane (the current guest lane) and the guests will use the current resident lane.
Also the Evandel gate will be an exit only gate. There will be noise-resistant tiger
teeth installed at the exit gate to prevent cars from entering the exit gate before it
closes.
One of gates with a guard villa will be manned 24 hours per day. The second gate
with the guard villa will be manned 8 hours per day – during the peak traffic
times.
Video technology will be installed to monitor drivers and license plates so we
know all cars that enter at all times of the day. Thus, if a crime occurs and we
know the approximate time, we can narrow down the suspects.
Video technology will also enable the 24-hour manned guarded gate to check a
visitor’s driver’s license ID remotely against the visitor list just as if he were in
front of the individual. He can talk to the visitor remotely and open the gate if the
visitor is authorized.
To help ensure only authorized guests enter our community, residents will contact
the guard villa and provide a guest list that includes their guest’s name and date
expected. The guard will validate the guest’s identity against their driver’s license
and provide a guest pass with expiration date. This way when residents move or
change gardeners or other service providers, these guests will no longer be able to
use old guest pass codes and enter the Association. The roving guard will
address guests on premises whose guest pass has expired.
We will also be implementing resident car stickers before the manned gates are
implemented. This will allow the roving guard to note immediately unauthorized
vehicles within our community.

 ———————-
Project Assumptions:

[Coronita]

Well, I'll post the contents then 🙂

 

MANNED GATE PROPOSAL FOR GREER RANCH
QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
Revised 3/17/2008
1. Why do we need manned guarded gates in Greer Ranch? Have we had any incidents in or around Greer Ranch in which residents should be concerned?

Yes, recently there was a person who entered the community and stabbed his estranged wife who was living there with her relatives. Additionally, there was a black truck seen in Greer Ranch on two occasions, one on Halloween night about a year ago, attempting to stop and talk to young girls in such a way that it scared them. Within the same time period there was an attempted abduction at Antelope
Elementary School just across Clinton-Keith from our development. There was also a report by the roving guard concerning what he thought may have been a black Cadillac parked close to the Artisan homes with two men selling drugs. A few months ago someone’s car was stolen from their garage. Just within the past month there was an intoxicated non-resident driving in Greer at a very high speed who had a car accident and did major damage to our fence on Crabapple. He
certainly could have hit one of our residents. There was another incident within the past few days of an old Cadillac with four men in it driving slowly down several streets, at first with lights on, and later with them off. Fortunately, a resident noticed this and called the police. Most of these offenders would either have been prevented from entering our community or caught when trying to exit.

 

2. Why not just close the gates? Why do we need manned guarded gates?
Closing the gates would certainly be better than leaving them open as they
currently are during the day. However, just closing the gates doesn’t provide
much additional help with unauthorized traffic entering our community. It does
address unauthorized vehicles following residents through the gate – when the
gate is closed – assuming we put in an additional arm so only one resident can
enter the association at a time. However, there are still many problems with this
approach. First, we can’t close the gates during the day yet. The builders per the
CC&Rs have the right to leave the gates open until they leave – which could be
more than a year from now.
Additionally, since there’s no one there to monitor the gates, some people will
just break the arm and the gate and enter anyway. We’ve already had several
incidences of people breaking the gate and entering.
Also, with unmanned gates you would still need to give a guest pass code to your
cleaning service, your gardener, your contractor, UPS, all who come when you’re
at work. This gives them the ability to come through the gate any time they want.
Worse — what happens when you change service providers? Then even more
people have pass codes to enter Greer Ranch. Multiply this by almost 700 homes,
and you have a lot of unauthorized access. This is on top of the lack of
unauthorized access we have until the builders are finished building – which
would also be addressed with manned gates.

3. What is the proposal?
Build guard villas on the island at the Greer Rd and Nutmeg entrances.
Additionally install an extra arm at these two gates so only one car can enter at a
time. This will eliminate cars following residents in before the gate closes. As
soon as the arm goes up and lets one car through, it closes and the main gate
opens. Additionally, to facilitate traffic flow homeowners will have a separate
lane (the current guest lane) and the guests will use the current resident lane.
Also the Evandel gate will be an exit only gate. There will be noise-resistant tiger
teeth installed at the exit gate to prevent cars from entering the exit gate before it
closes.
One of gates with a guard villa will be manned 24 hours per day. The second gate
with the guard villa will be manned 8 hours per day – during the peak traffic
times.
Video technology will be installed to monitor drivers and license plates so we
know all cars that enter at all times of the day. Thus, if a crime occurs and we
know the approximate time, we can narrow down the suspects.
Video technology will also enable the 24-hour manned guarded gate to check a
visitor’s driver’s license ID remotely against the visitor list just as if he were in
front of the individual. He can talk to the visitor remotely and open the gate if the
visitor is authorized.
To help ensure only authorized guests enter our community, residents will contact
the guard villa and provide a guest list that includes their guest’s name and date
expected. The guard will validate the guest’s identity against their driver’s license
and provide a guest pass with expiration date. This way when residents move or
change gardeners or other service providers, these guests will no longer be able to
use old guest pass codes and enter the Association. The roving guard will
address guests on premises whose guest pass has expired.
We will also be implementing resident car stickers before the manned gates are
implemented. This will allow the roving guard to note immediately unauthorized
vehicles within our community.

 ———————-
Project Assumptions:

[Coronita]

Well I am not quite J6P nor a moron. I am a master of self-deprecation.

I didn't try to imply you were. You said you were average joe. Assuming that statement is accurate (I don't know) and that average joe and the rest of average j6p hears/reads/sees (ok maybe j6p doesn't read) on paper/internet/tv touting "BUY COMMODITIES NOW, GET RICH QUICK", to me that means that mainstream has caught up to this "next big thing", and that sooner or later prices are going to be driven up to insane levels and then fall.

Come on folks, don't you think that mass media has gotten hold of this next "big thing" and is now touting it? I can't count how many spam emails, junk snail mail, advertisements I'm seeing,hearing, watching touting "buy gold, buy silver, buy energy, get rich, beat inflation, beat blah blah blah.." It seems it's ominous of the next hype. There was even an cnn article about how folks/one should dig up old gold jewelry and try to sell them to capitalize on the recent run-up in gold prices (forgetting the fact that most accessory jewelry is like 14k and pretty useless).

 

As far as high oil prices. I think long term that might be a good thing. One thing that I think is that Americans are very creative, and if oil/gas is going to be insane, markets will bring the need for alternative energy.

 

echo, I think your analysis for buying gold/precious metals (in 20/20 hindsight :)) would have yielded you incredible gains 3 years ago. I'm not so sure if the runup will continue. But what do I know, I'm a lazy union worker j6p 🙂 Plus as someone once pointed out, opinions are like ….

 

So here's an idea (albeit terrible). Why not starting to move a (small) amount into REITS :)….Seriously, what do you have to lose? Things are so low across the board, not everything can be terrible. And no one is looking there these days…And if it is, it's just a small amount, who cares if it gets halved? (no I'm not doing this myself. Are you insane? 🙂 ) Or why not buy some low priced banks. Not every bank is going to default and end up like BSC.

 

 

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—– Sour grapes for everyone!

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