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ParticipantOf course there are “Death Panels”!
It does not matter that it is under the “Social” medicine or Private.
There will always be a group of doctors that must make a decision about medical resources.
Transplant decision being the first one to come to mind.
One kidney two patients. Who gets its? The 62 year old former alcholic or the 16 year old boy with malform kidneys.
Choice is pretty easy.
Also I was talking to my “mate” yesterday. His “mum” is still in the UK and told me he is not excited about socialized medicine having experienced it for himself.
He said that it is fine when you are young and healthy but when you get older that the care system there is “less than aggressive” to treat older patients. There is a aloof attitude towards the treatment of the eldery especially when it cost the state more money.
“They are old and going to die anyway” was his commentary about doctors attitudes.
I am not anti nationalized healtcare. However I have never heard anyone yet tell me how it is going to actually work that makes sense to me.
CE
PS I havent watched the video…
November 18, 2013 at 8:58 PM in reply to: My experience getting a dedicated EV TOU 2 electric meter with SDGE #768130ParticipantWell I could see a unified standard for all EVs in the future. It is the only thing that really makes sense for long haul travel.
Not just Teslas but all EVs.
I was involved in Solar Cars in College so I use to know something about these technologies, especially batteries and solar cells, but the technologies have passed me by.
SDDuuuude is more current then me. He has been building Bots for sometime and weight Vs. energy density was a huge consideration.
In college, SunRacye was the nothing but a huge experimental arena for todays EVs.
CE
ParticipantNo but I got one from France yesterday in my email…
Your just special…
CE
November 17, 2013 at 9:14 AM in reply to: OT: The “Radical” Gay Agenda in California Public Schools #768069Participant[quote=spdrun]Just because it’s “innate” doesn’t make it good or useful in industrialized society ca. 2013. Homophobia seems like a dumb thing to waste one’s energy on.[/quote]
Or any kind of racist…
For me… I am simply to lazy to be a racist or a homophob…
These things take time and energy and like I said I am to lazy to do this…
CE
November 17, 2013 at 9:10 AM in reply to: OT: The “Radical” Gay Agenda in California Public Schools #768067Participant[quote=CA renter][quote=livinincali][quote=CA renter]
Because the PRIVATE publishing and education companies make billions of dollars every year from changes to the curriculum. You didn’t actually think the almost yearly curriculum/textbook changes were “for the children,” did you?Those “education experts” you’re talking about? They work for PRIVATE CORPORATIONS. It’s a very lucrative business.
Of course, the uninformed yokels will try to blame these changes and the agenda-driven curriculum on the teachers and those “evil unions,” as they always do whenever something goes wrong in the public sector (and they are wrong almost 100% of the time).
[/quote]Who makes the decision to contract/hire said private corporations? Somebody within public sector does make that decision. Whether private companies lobbied them or not the blame lies on the decision making individuals within the public sector.[/quote]
The people making those decisions are almost always elected or appointed politicians and their chosen administrators. In case you haven’t noticed, most of them are bought/owned by corporations. Unions/teachers have far less to do with this than corporations, special interest groups, think tanks, etc. — people who work outside of government. I just want to make that very clear.
People like to demonize “the government” and rank-and-file union workers as though they are one and the same. They are not. Most union members totally disagree with the way the government spends/wastes money.[/quote]
We can seperate the words Unions from Teachers in this arguement.
The district are in full control of thier circulms and rule them with an iron fist.
So I am calling shenigans on this arguement of special interest. In fact most districts are not changing thier books year to year.
They simple can’t afford to. Hell they are having trouble keeping teachers on thier pay roles so this arguement of spending money on books is not valid.
The fact of the matter is with this country’s education system being one of the worst of the first world countries “what are we doing?” spend time with this subject, any subject, outside of the three Rs?
Simply the teachers have other things they should be focused on.
And before we get of on a tangent I belive the primary reasons for failing schools starts at home.
But damnit stop with the proganda machine. The OP above said private sector… Not Unions.
Man you never miss a chance to champion…
CE
November 16, 2013 at 11:04 PM in reply to: OT: The “Radical” Gay Agenda in California Public Schools #768050Participant[quote=paramount][quote=6packscaredy]
No probably he meant having kids be aware of homosexuality is immoral.
But that can’t be right because we must teach our children Torah, and so they will learn of homosexualitys existence there…[/quote]
Teaching young children (elem age) in a school about matters regarding hetero/homo relationships is immoral, period. The comments I’m reading here are VERY disturbing. Is this a NMBLA Board in disguise?
Torah? Well, it can’t be any worse than the Mark Swift Manifesto so many here obviously worship.[/quote]
Ok… So this is the language that gets you in trouble.
Teaching young children (elem age) in a school about matters regarding hetero/homo relationships is immoral, period.
I would accept wrong… inapporpaite… but the use of the word immoral… This is where you lose my support on the subject. Immoral is a very judgemental position.
Very hard to defend yourself against that verbiage.
Also that video is pretty laughable… Very sophmoric… Reminds me of Tea Party type ads against Obama… Not something I would introduce into evidence. Way to polarizing…
“Won’t anyone think of the childern!” Mrs. Flanders
I know where our educators are coming from on this. They are trying to introduce our childern to a “wider world” but that is still not thier charter.
CE
November 16, 2013 at 10:48 PM in reply to: OT: The “Radical” Gay Agenda in California Public Schools #768049Participant[quote=Blogstar]I was able to surmise when I was 7 that my dad had banged someone elses wife….[/quote]
Five for me… Though I didnt think about sex. It was just another woman. I saw a cigarette with lipstick on it in the cars ashtray and asked my dad if mom had started smoking. He told me know and that the cigarette should be our little secert. I put it all together around 8. I don’t know who felt more cheated on… My mom or me for my dad making me part of his betrayal.
CE
November 16, 2013 at 10:41 PM in reply to: OT: The “Radical” Gay Agenda in California Public Schools #768048Participant[quote=paramount][quote=SK in CV][quote=paramount]
It just goes to show how far down the rat hole society is when you can’t take a position that:No form of gender relationship issues of any type should be discussed or even suggested to elementary school children.
Again: ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILDREN!!
Without being labeled a homophobe.
Sick. Really Sick.[/quote]
So you don’t think mommy and daddy should ever be discussed either?[/quote]
Parent(s) or Guardian(s) works just fine.[/quote]
This is what I was saying earlier… Just say parents… If the readers idea of parents are two “mommies” or “daddies” or a hetro couple then the language does not cause conflict for the child or the parents.
CE
November 16, 2013 at 3:48 PM in reply to: My experience getting a dedicated EV TOU 2 electric meter with SDGE #768010Participant[quote=patb][quote=joec]What about the concern that replacing all these batteries for ALL these cars would be expensive and a total pain after 5 years?
Like how your cell phone or wireless headphones or pretty much anything won’t keep a charge anymore after a certain amount of time. It could cost 10k to replace the batteries on the Tesla.
That’s one of my biggest concerns with owning one of these EV vehicles, even the cheaper ones.
Even with costs coming down, it’s still so much more than the $50-$100 standard car bat.[/quote]
people said that about Hybrid cars too. It didn’t happen.[/quote]
It will…
Battery technologies have made huge leaps in the last 15 years but one thing still remains…
They eventually fail.
Sometimes spectacuarly…
CE
November 15, 2013 at 9:37 AM in reply to: OT: The “Radical” Gay Agenda in California Public Schools #767955Participant[quote=no_such_reality][quote=flu][quote=livinincali]I think the problem is we’re paying a room full of education experts to come up with with new reading assignment that are more politically correct every year. Why can’t we use the reading assignments from last year or 5 years ago. The basics of reading comprehension and math haven’t changed in centuries.[/quote]
Ding ding ding…
Winnar![/quote]
I’ll refer you to another thread were the reference to “supposed” to look towards diversity was mentioned. In hiring in the higher ed system, the diversity question is a first and foremost hiring point.
That said, I must be part of the radical agenda, because my wife and I bought “Bad Kitty Christmas”. There’s a passing reference to a lesbian couple in the book, we didn’t think anything about it. Take a look at the reviews, the 1 stars are pretty uniform in the issue being the same sex partnership.[/quote]
Nothing radical about you…
But again it was you that made the choice to introduce your child to the subject. That is your perogative to do so.
I have no right to tell you that you were right or wrong in this. Your child… your choice.
That is the way it should be and that is one of the cruxs of the debate here.
For the record… In case anyone is wondering I vote against the bill to make gay marriage unconstitional.
I am Pro Gay marriage.
The fact the school district chooses to force certain ideals on a child outside of the 3 Rs is no different then the goverment denying gay marriage (though I admit the magnitude of the two are very different).
For me, it’s about a goverment making personal choices for you.
CE
November 14, 2013 at 11:26 PM in reply to: OT: The “Radical” Gay Agenda in California Public Schools #767939ParticipantYou have consistently show a lack of regard for authority figures on this board. I dont necessarily disagree with that opinion but I find it inconsistant/hypocritical that you have such issues with other things but it is perfectly ok for a school system to dictate morality for anything else to your child outside of the 3 Rs.
Ok… Im done arguing with you.
CE
November 14, 2013 at 11:13 PM in reply to: OT: The “Radical” Gay Agenda in California Public Schools #767936Participant[quote=spdrun]
You decide that for your kids and yours alone. The state of CA should not have that right. Unfortunately we have left it up to our schools to feed our kids and teach them thier sense of morality.
And I see FACTS as independent of morality.
The schools are not requiring the kids to have homosexual intercourse, just to know that homosexual couples exist. Fact. Same deal with kids learning how the plumbing works. Facts.[/quote]
Ok then…
You go ahead and let your kids know there is no Santa Clause, easter bunny, show them the facts about chemical warfare and other shit from the earlist ages of comperhension.
I will talk to my kids about these things when they show the apporipate maturity to embrace the subject. Again it is not for you or the school to decide this.
I am not worried that by explaining homosexuality to them that the will become homosexuals…
They either are or they aren’t already.
I will love them eitherway… I got no feelings on the subject outside of other people teaching my kids on the subject.
That’s my responsiblity alone.
Teach your kids whatever you want. Maybe they will be critical, outspoken, overbearing jerks like you.
CE
November 14, 2013 at 10:52 PM in reply to: OT: The “Radical” Gay Agenda in California Public Schools #767931Participant[quote=flu][quote=spdrun]Are TEC-9’s still a thing among gang-bangers?[/quote]
Sorry, I’m old school :)[/quote]
Gang members named Frank and Dirk?
Old school? May be old fool… 😛
CE
November 14, 2013 at 10:50 PM in reply to: OT: The “Radical” Gay Agenda in California Public Schools #767930Participant[quote=spdrun]CDMA ENG — there’s a big difference between knowing about something healthy and pleasant and learning about horrible, painful injuries and unpleasant death early on.
What’s funny is that Americans seem to think that death and gore are OK for kids to see on TV or in games, yet show a 1/8″ crescent of a distaff areola mammae and there’s a furore.[/quote]
The end of the arguemnet is that you are not the great decider of what other people’s childern should see and at what age.
You don’t get to tell me or others what to “Deal with”.
You decide that for your kids and yours alone. The state of CA should not have that right. Unfortunately we have left it up to our schools to feed our kids and teach them thier sense of morality.
We need to take that back.
CE
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