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Participant[quote=threadkiller]OK just checked my BMI and @ 6’2″ weighing 203 I’m overweight. I don’t look overweight, I admit though that I do “feel” overweight. I would have to lose 9 pounds to weigh in @ 194 and not be overweight. That’s 36288 Calories that I need to burn. Ok I will get started on it tomorrow, oh yeah I forgot tomorrow never comes,so how about right now. Most people under estimate how long it takes to lose weight. Other than fasting, which I agree would do a lot of people good to try, it would probably take atleast 3 weeks to lose those 9 pounds, minimum.[/quote]
There are schools of thought that says this line of thinking is just not correct. That applying the law of ThermoDynamics to weight loss is simplistic because of those who have insulin resistance issues.
The Gary Taubes, “why we get fat” book covers this fairly well. My mother read part of the book and was convinced by many of the arguments. As a kid, she was the fat kid (somewhat anyway). In a house of 5 kids the family rationed everything even down to the carton of ice cream. That is mom sliced an equal part for each kid, bagged it up labled it and that was your snack for the week, a square of ice cream. The other brother’s and sisters were fine with weight, she struggled. Despite reading that and saying “wow that makes sense” she goes right back to counting calories.
We are doing biggest loser at work and I am down 3.9% after 3 weeks and haven’t really started walking. In keeping with the Robb Wolf line of thinking on not stressing the body and raising cortisol levels, I’ll walk about 45 minutes, and lift very heavy but low reps in two simple things deadlift and bench since they cover about 95% of the musculature. If you read Pavel Tsatsouline’s Power to the People (I think a free copy is around on google books) he discusses how lifting very close to the max (85%) for very low reps will allow max strength gains without added weight.
However I wanted to establish a pattern of eating first it’s much much more important than the workout. So basically and eggs breakfast, and try to eat some kind of fatty meats and some veggies. The tough part is social time of course at the office. One thing is I am more satiated and thus eat less. If I down 1/2-3/4 lbs. of sausage at lunch, I pretty much have to force myself to eat a little dinner.
No grains, no sugars, no legumes, I struggle with cutting out cheese as the Paleo guys prefer no dairy as well. Right now just losing is most important, as I am definitely obese, albeit fairly active as a baseball dad. However my 16 year old is now pulling 340 and beats me easily, and I need to catch up out of pride. (though he certainly throws harder and hits harder too).
A last note, it’s VERY VERY hard to eat 3000 calories when not eating grains/pasta/sugar. So despite Taubes argument about not worrying about calories, most will still cut drastically. Takes a lot of Ribeye to = 3000 calories. Take the example above about In and Out. If I go to In and Out burger and order “Protein Style” who cares if I get a double? If I am not taking in the calories from bread, fries and shakes, I’ve cut out quite a bit, and basically still get full eating a few patties on a bed of lettuce.
Participant[quote=threadkiller]OK just checked my BMI and @ 6’2″ weighing 203 I’m overweight. I don’t look overweight, I admit though that I do “feel” overweight. I would have to lose 9 pounds to weigh in @ 194 and not be overweight. That’s 36288 Calories that I need to burn. Ok I will get started on it tomorrow, oh yeah I forgot tomorrow never comes,so how about right now. Most people under estimate how long it takes to lose weight. Other than fasting, which I agree would do a lot of people good to try, it would probably take atleast 3 weeks to lose those 9 pounds, minimum.[/quote]
There are schools of thought that says this line of thinking is just not correct. That applying the law of ThermoDynamics to weight loss is simplistic because of those who have insulin resistance issues.
The Gary Taubes, “why we get fat” book covers this fairly well. My mother read part of the book and was convinced by many of the arguments. As a kid, she was the fat kid (somewhat anyway). In a house of 5 kids the family rationed everything even down to the carton of ice cream. That is mom sliced an equal part for each kid, bagged it up labled it and that was your snack for the week, a square of ice cream. The other brother’s and sisters were fine with weight, she struggled. Despite reading that and saying “wow that makes sense” she goes right back to counting calories.
We are doing biggest loser at work and I am down 3.9% after 3 weeks and haven’t really started walking. In keeping with the Robb Wolf line of thinking on not stressing the body and raising cortisol levels, I’ll walk about 45 minutes, and lift very heavy but low reps in two simple things deadlift and bench since they cover about 95% of the musculature. If you read Pavel Tsatsouline’s Power to the People (I think a free copy is around on google books) he discusses how lifting very close to the max (85%) for very low reps will allow max strength gains without added weight.
However I wanted to establish a pattern of eating first it’s much much more important than the workout. So basically and eggs breakfast, and try to eat some kind of fatty meats and some veggies. The tough part is social time of course at the office. One thing is I am more satiated and thus eat less. If I down 1/2-3/4 lbs. of sausage at lunch, I pretty much have to force myself to eat a little dinner.
No grains, no sugars, no legumes, I struggle with cutting out cheese as the Paleo guys prefer no dairy as well. Right now just losing is most important, as I am definitely obese, albeit fairly active as a baseball dad. However my 16 year old is now pulling 340 and beats me easily, and I need to catch up out of pride. (though he certainly throws harder and hits harder too).
A last note, it’s VERY VERY hard to eat 3000 calories when not eating grains/pasta/sugar. So despite Taubes argument about not worrying about calories, most will still cut drastically. Takes a lot of Ribeye to = 3000 calories. Take the example above about In and Out. If I go to In and Out burger and order “Protein Style” who cares if I get a double? If I am not taking in the calories from bread, fries and shakes, I’ve cut out quite a bit, and basically still get full eating a few patties on a bed of lettuce.
Participant[quote=threadkiller]OK just checked my BMI and @ 6’2″ weighing 203 I’m overweight. I don’t look overweight, I admit though that I do “feel” overweight. I would have to lose 9 pounds to weigh in @ 194 and not be overweight. That’s 36288 Calories that I need to burn. Ok I will get started on it tomorrow, oh yeah I forgot tomorrow never comes,so how about right now. Most people under estimate how long it takes to lose weight. Other than fasting, which I agree would do a lot of people good to try, it would probably take atleast 3 weeks to lose those 9 pounds, minimum.[/quote]
There are schools of thought that says this line of thinking is just not correct. That applying the law of ThermoDynamics to weight loss is simplistic because of those who have insulin resistance issues.
The Gary Taubes, “why we get fat” book covers this fairly well. My mother read part of the book and was convinced by many of the arguments. As a kid, she was the fat kid (somewhat anyway). In a house of 5 kids the family rationed everything even down to the carton of ice cream. That is mom sliced an equal part for each kid, bagged it up labled it and that was your snack for the week, a square of ice cream. The other brother’s and sisters were fine with weight, she struggled. Despite reading that and saying “wow that makes sense” she goes right back to counting calories.
We are doing biggest loser at work and I am down 3.9% after 3 weeks and haven’t really started walking. In keeping with the Robb Wolf line of thinking on not stressing the body and raising cortisol levels, I’ll walk about 45 minutes, and lift very heavy but low reps in two simple things deadlift and bench since they cover about 95% of the musculature. If you read Pavel Tsatsouline’s Power to the People (I think a free copy is around on google books) he discusses how lifting very close to the max (85%) for very low reps will allow max strength gains without added weight.
However I wanted to establish a pattern of eating first it’s much much more important than the workout. So basically and eggs breakfast, and try to eat some kind of fatty meats and some veggies. The tough part is social time of course at the office. One thing is I am more satiated and thus eat less. If I down 1/2-3/4 lbs. of sausage at lunch, I pretty much have to force myself to eat a little dinner.
No grains, no sugars, no legumes, I struggle with cutting out cheese as the Paleo guys prefer no dairy as well. Right now just losing is most important, as I am definitely obese, albeit fairly active as a baseball dad. However my 16 year old is now pulling 340 and beats me easily, and I need to catch up out of pride. (though he certainly throws harder and hits harder too).
A last note, it’s VERY VERY hard to eat 3000 calories when not eating grains/pasta/sugar. So despite Taubes argument about not worrying about calories, most will still cut drastically. Takes a lot of Ribeye to = 3000 calories. Take the example above about In and Out. If I go to In and Out burger and order “Protein Style” who cares if I get a double? If I am not taking in the calories from bread, fries and shakes, I’ve cut out quite a bit, and basically still get full eating a few patties on a bed of lettuce.
Participant[quote=threadkiller]OK just checked my BMI and @ 6’2″ weighing 203 I’m overweight. I don’t look overweight, I admit though that I do “feel” overweight. I would have to lose 9 pounds to weigh in @ 194 and not be overweight. That’s 36288 Calories that I need to burn. Ok I will get started on it tomorrow, oh yeah I forgot tomorrow never comes,so how about right now. Most people under estimate how long it takes to lose weight. Other than fasting, which I agree would do a lot of people good to try, it would probably take atleast 3 weeks to lose those 9 pounds, minimum.[/quote]
There are schools of thought that says this line of thinking is just not correct. That applying the law of ThermoDynamics to weight loss is simplistic because of those who have insulin resistance issues.
The Gary Taubes, “why we get fat” book covers this fairly well. My mother read part of the book and was convinced by many of the arguments. As a kid, she was the fat kid (somewhat anyway). In a house of 5 kids the family rationed everything even down to the carton of ice cream. That is mom sliced an equal part for each kid, bagged it up labled it and that was your snack for the week, a square of ice cream. The other brother’s and sisters were fine with weight, she struggled. Despite reading that and saying “wow that makes sense” she goes right back to counting calories.
We are doing biggest loser at work and I am down 3.9% after 3 weeks and haven’t really started walking. In keeping with the Robb Wolf line of thinking on not stressing the body and raising cortisol levels, I’ll walk about 45 minutes, and lift very heavy but low reps in two simple things deadlift and bench since they cover about 95% of the musculature. If you read Pavel Tsatsouline’s Power to the People (I think a free copy is around on google books) he discusses how lifting very close to the max (85%) for very low reps will allow max strength gains without added weight.
However I wanted to establish a pattern of eating first it’s much much more important than the workout. So basically and eggs breakfast, and try to eat some kind of fatty meats and some veggies. The tough part is social time of course at the office. One thing is I am more satiated and thus eat less. If I down 1/2-3/4 lbs. of sausage at lunch, I pretty much have to force myself to eat a little dinner.
No grains, no sugars, no legumes, I struggle with cutting out cheese as the Paleo guys prefer no dairy as well. Right now just losing is most important, as I am definitely obese, albeit fairly active as a baseball dad. However my 16 year old is now pulling 340 and beats me easily, and I need to catch up out of pride. (though he certainly throws harder and hits harder too).
A last note, it’s VERY VERY hard to eat 3000 calories when not eating grains/pasta/sugar. So despite Taubes argument about not worrying about calories, most will still cut drastically. Takes a lot of Ribeye to = 3000 calories. Take the example above about In and Out. If I go to In and Out burger and order “Protein Style” who cares if I get a double? If I am not taking in the calories from bread, fries and shakes, I’ve cut out quite a bit, and basically still get full eating a few patties on a bed of lettuce.
Participant[quote=threadkiller]OK just checked my BMI and @ 6’2″ weighing 203 I’m overweight. I don’t look overweight, I admit though that I do “feel” overweight. I would have to lose 9 pounds to weigh in @ 194 and not be overweight. That’s 36288 Calories that I need to burn. Ok I will get started on it tomorrow, oh yeah I forgot tomorrow never comes,so how about right now. Most people under estimate how long it takes to lose weight. Other than fasting, which I agree would do a lot of people good to try, it would probably take atleast 3 weeks to lose those 9 pounds, minimum.[/quote]
There are schools of thought that says this line of thinking is just not correct. That applying the law of ThermoDynamics to weight loss is simplistic because of those who have insulin resistance issues.
The Gary Taubes, “why we get fat” book covers this fairly well. My mother read part of the book and was convinced by many of the arguments. As a kid, she was the fat kid (somewhat anyway). In a house of 5 kids the family rationed everything even down to the carton of ice cream. That is mom sliced an equal part for each kid, bagged it up labled it and that was your snack for the week, a square of ice cream. The other brother’s and sisters were fine with weight, she struggled. Despite reading that and saying “wow that makes sense” she goes right back to counting calories.
We are doing biggest loser at work and I am down 3.9% after 3 weeks and haven’t really started walking. In keeping with the Robb Wolf line of thinking on not stressing the body and raising cortisol levels, I’ll walk about 45 minutes, and lift very heavy but low reps in two simple things deadlift and bench since they cover about 95% of the musculature. If you read Pavel Tsatsouline’s Power to the People (I think a free copy is around on google books) he discusses how lifting very close to the max (85%) for very low reps will allow max strength gains without added weight.
However I wanted to establish a pattern of eating first it’s much much more important than the workout. So basically and eggs breakfast, and try to eat some kind of fatty meats and some veggies. The tough part is social time of course at the office. One thing is I am more satiated and thus eat less. If I down 1/2-3/4 lbs. of sausage at lunch, I pretty much have to force myself to eat a little dinner.
No grains, no sugars, no legumes, I struggle with cutting out cheese as the Paleo guys prefer no dairy as well. Right now just losing is most important, as I am definitely obese, albeit fairly active as a baseball dad. However my 16 year old is now pulling 340 and beats me easily, and I need to catch up out of pride. (though he certainly throws harder and hits harder too).
A last note, it’s VERY VERY hard to eat 3000 calories when not eating grains/pasta/sugar. So despite Taubes argument about not worrying about calories, most will still cut drastically. Takes a lot of Ribeye to = 3000 calories. Take the example above about In and Out. If I go to In and Out burger and order “Protein Style” who cares if I get a double? If I am not taking in the calories from bread, fries and shakes, I’ve cut out quite a bit, and basically still get full eating a few patties on a bed of lettuce.
ParticipantI went to Pacific Dental I think it was. He has an office in Chula Vista but only works out of his US office once per week.
No complaints really.
ParticipantI went to Pacific Dental I think it was. He has an office in Chula Vista but only works out of his US office once per week.
No complaints really.
ParticipantI went to Pacific Dental I think it was. He has an office in Chula Vista but only works out of his US office once per week.
No complaints really.
ParticipantI went to Pacific Dental I think it was. He has an office in Chula Vista but only works out of his US office once per week.
No complaints really.
ParticipantI went to Pacific Dental I think it was. He has an office in Chula Vista but only works out of his US office once per week.
No complaints really.
ParticipantThe more I think about Arnold being a dick, the more I think well, your home life isn’t much better Mr. Baseball. I think my wife is a succubus. Is there a test you do? Like a sneaky DNA extract or something? She can get so mean and bent out of shape with the kids over nothing, and I just don’t get the anger. It’s seriously over the top, and often from something one of their friends did at school (she teaches where they go) and has nothing to do with them. Even if my kids were causing the problems dealing with your children choosing path Y when they should have chosen path X, is part of the deal of being a parent. You roll with the punches. Improvise, overcome, adapt. This is what we are SUPPOSED to deal with.
However I haven’t killed her or even hurt her in any way despite the constant bitter attitude towards everything in life. Will I make it to 20 years this august? Probably, because I end up saying, screw it, just roll with it. I am a little worried about the kids though she’s really going overboard about the tiniest of things. You gotta save something for the first time they try weed or call from jail for gods sake. My 16.5 year old as near as I can tell has never even been intoxicated and since he isn’t gone much might even be a virgin. By his age was banging everything that moved, drinking and whatever else I could do. I know he isn’t because it’s extremely rare that he is even gone on weekends. Hell his school in San Diego drug tested him and he was clean, no pot in the system (private school) Christ on a Pony these boys are up for Mother Theresa awards compared to what I was.
ParticipantThe more I think about Arnold being a dick, the more I think well, your home life isn’t much better Mr. Baseball. I think my wife is a succubus. Is there a test you do? Like a sneaky DNA extract or something? She can get so mean and bent out of shape with the kids over nothing, and I just don’t get the anger. It’s seriously over the top, and often from something one of their friends did at school (she teaches where they go) and has nothing to do with them. Even if my kids were causing the problems dealing with your children choosing path Y when they should have chosen path X, is part of the deal of being a parent. You roll with the punches. Improvise, overcome, adapt. This is what we are SUPPOSED to deal with.
However I haven’t killed her or even hurt her in any way despite the constant bitter attitude towards everything in life. Will I make it to 20 years this august? Probably, because I end up saying, screw it, just roll with it. I am a little worried about the kids though she’s really going overboard about the tiniest of things. You gotta save something for the first time they try weed or call from jail for gods sake. My 16.5 year old as near as I can tell has never even been intoxicated and since he isn’t gone much might even be a virgin. By his age was banging everything that moved, drinking and whatever else I could do. I know he isn’t because it’s extremely rare that he is even gone on weekends. Hell his school in San Diego drug tested him and he was clean, no pot in the system (private school) Christ on a Pony these boys are up for Mother Theresa awards compared to what I was.
ParticipantThe more I think about Arnold being a dick, the more I think well, your home life isn’t much better Mr. Baseball. I think my wife is a succubus. Is there a test you do? Like a sneaky DNA extract or something? She can get so mean and bent out of shape with the kids over nothing, and I just don’t get the anger. It’s seriously over the top, and often from something one of their friends did at school (she teaches where they go) and has nothing to do with them. Even if my kids were causing the problems dealing with your children choosing path Y when they should have chosen path X, is part of the deal of being a parent. You roll with the punches. Improvise, overcome, adapt. This is what we are SUPPOSED to deal with.
However I haven’t killed her or even hurt her in any way despite the constant bitter attitude towards everything in life. Will I make it to 20 years this august? Probably, because I end up saying, screw it, just roll with it. I am a little worried about the kids though she’s really going overboard about the tiniest of things. You gotta save something for the first time they try weed or call from jail for gods sake. My 16.5 year old as near as I can tell has never even been intoxicated and since he isn’t gone much might even be a virgin. By his age was banging everything that moved, drinking and whatever else I could do. I know he isn’t because it’s extremely rare that he is even gone on weekends. Hell his school in San Diego drug tested him and he was clean, no pot in the system (private school) Christ on a Pony these boys are up for Mother Theresa awards compared to what I was.
ParticipantThe more I think about Arnold being a dick, the more I think well, your home life isn’t much better Mr. Baseball. I think my wife is a succubus. Is there a test you do? Like a sneaky DNA extract or something? She can get so mean and bent out of shape with the kids over nothing, and I just don’t get the anger. It’s seriously over the top, and often from something one of their friends did at school (she teaches where they go) and has nothing to do with them. Even if my kids were causing the problems dealing with your children choosing path Y when they should have chosen path X, is part of the deal of being a parent. You roll with the punches. Improvise, overcome, adapt. This is what we are SUPPOSED to deal with.
However I haven’t killed her or even hurt her in any way despite the constant bitter attitude towards everything in life. Will I make it to 20 years this august? Probably, because I end up saying, screw it, just roll with it. I am a little worried about the kids though she’s really going overboard about the tiniest of things. You gotta save something for the first time they try weed or call from jail for gods sake. My 16.5 year old as near as I can tell has never even been intoxicated and since he isn’t gone much might even be a virgin. By his age was banging everything that moved, drinking and whatever else I could do. I know he isn’t because it’s extremely rare that he is even gone on weekends. Hell his school in San Diego drug tested him and he was clean, no pot in the system (private school) Christ on a Pony these boys are up for Mother Theresa awards compared to what I was.
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