Your Medical Plan $Changes/Increases for 2011?

[PatentGuy]

Any time the government takes from some and gives to others, the people being taken from don’t like it, and the people on the receiving end like it.

As far as I can tell, the people on the receiving end of health care $$$ are first and foremost the insurance companies. But, I’m sure lots of entities have their hand in the pot.

Bearishgurl, you are being a bit hard on the “newly insurable.” Do you feel this way about people you already subsidize with food stamps or medicare or [fill in the blank]? Obama made no secret during his campaign that he was all about wealth redistribution. He was overwhelmingly elected, so I assume people who voted for him were OK with his plans for wealth redistribution. Did you vote for him? If so, you got what you voted for.

[meadandale]

[quote=PatentGuy]Obama made no secret during his campaign that he was all about wealth redistribution. He was overwhelmingly elected, so I assume people who voted for him were OK with his plans for wealth redistribution. Did you vote for him? If so, you got what you voted for.[/quote]

Which is why, as much as I hated McCain I could never have voted for Barry…

[meadandale]

[quote=PatentGuy]Obama made no secret during his campaign that he was all about wealth redistribution. He was overwhelmingly elected, so I assume people who voted for him were OK with his plans for wealth redistribution. Did you vote for him? If so, you got what you voted for.[/quote]

Which is why, as much as I hated McCain I could never have voted for Barry…

[meadandale]

[quote=PatentGuy]Obama made no secret during his campaign that he was all about wealth redistribution. He was overwhelmingly elected, so I assume people who voted for him were OK with his plans for wealth redistribution. Did you vote for him? If so, you got what you voted for.[/quote]

Which is why, as much as I hated McCain I could never have voted for Barry…

[meadandale]

[quote=PatentGuy]Obama made no secret during his campaign that he was all about wealth redistribution. He was overwhelmingly elected, so I assume people who voted for him were OK with his plans for wealth redistribution. Did you vote for him? If so, you got what you voted for.[/quote]

Which is why, as much as I hated McCain I could never have voted for Barry…

[meadandale]

[quote=PatentGuy]Obama made no secret during his campaign that he was all about wealth redistribution. He was overwhelmingly elected, so I assume people who voted for him were OK with his plans for wealth redistribution. Did you vote for him? If so, you got what you voted for.[/quote]

Which is why, as much as I hated McCain I could never have voted for Barry…

[jstoesz]

agreed…verbatim.

[jstoesz]

agreed…verbatim.

[jstoesz]

agreed…verbatim.

[jstoesz]

agreed…verbatim.

[jstoesz]

agreed…verbatim.

[air_ogi]

[quote=bearishgurl]
air_ogi, SOMEBODY has to subsidize the premiums of the frequent health-care users and the sick who will all soon be “covered.” This $$ will come off the backs of employers, employees and individual policy holders. There will be no more rewards (in the form of a low premium) for taking care of oneself and using exercise and alternative therapies (out-of-pocket) instead of running to the doctor constantly. Health insurance won’t work like other forms of insurance anymore.[/quote]

And that is why the requirement to have insurance goes along with removal of pre-existing conditions.

So over last couple years, salaries of doctors have been relatively constant as have been the prices of the medical equipment.

And yet we had insurance increase by 10+% every year. So that means that either insurance companies are making way more money or insured people are way sicker.
After looking the financial reports for several insurance companies, I can tell you that none of them are having significant increases in profit.

So what is going on is that as prices are rising, more and more healthy people are leaving the insurance pool. And it’s an interesting cycle, since as more healthy people leave the pool, the higher the rise in the insurance rates, resulting in more healthy people leaving the pool.
If you look at insurance rates for a large corporation, which has a nice captive pool, the price increase have been nowhere near small business and individual market.

I have absolutely no idea why you would blame Obamacare for this.

[air_ogi]

[quote=bearishgurl]
air_ogi, SOMEBODY has to subsidize the premiums of the frequent health-care users and the sick who will all soon be “covered.” This $$ will come off the backs of employers, employees and individual policy holders. There will be no more rewards (in the form of a low premium) for taking care of oneself and using exercise and alternative therapies (out-of-pocket) instead of running to the doctor constantly. Health insurance won’t work like other forms of insurance anymore.[/quote]

And that is why the requirement to have insurance goes along with removal of pre-existing conditions.

So over last couple years, salaries of doctors have been relatively constant as have been the prices of the medical equipment.

And yet we had insurance increase by 10+% every year. So that means that either insurance companies are making way more money or insured people are way sicker.
After looking the financial reports for several insurance companies, I can tell you that none of them are having significant increases in profit.

So what is going on is that as prices are rising, more and more healthy people are leaving the insurance pool. And it’s an interesting cycle, since as more healthy people leave the pool, the higher the rise in the insurance rates, resulting in more healthy people leaving the pool.
If you look at insurance rates for a large corporation, which has a nice captive pool, the price increase have been nowhere near small business and individual market.

I have absolutely no idea why you would blame Obamacare for this.

[air_ogi]

[quote=bearishgurl]
air_ogi, SOMEBODY has to subsidize the premiums of the frequent health-care users and the sick who will all soon be “covered.” This $$ will come off the backs of employers, employees and individual policy holders. There will be no more rewards (in the form of a low premium) for taking care of oneself and using exercise and alternative therapies (out-of-pocket) instead of running to the doctor constantly. Health insurance won’t work like other forms of insurance anymore.[/quote]

And that is why the requirement to have insurance goes along with removal of pre-existing conditions.

So over last couple years, salaries of doctors have been relatively constant as have been the prices of the medical equipment.

And yet we had insurance increase by 10+% every year. So that means that either insurance companies are making way more money or insured people are way sicker.
After looking the financial reports for several insurance companies, I can tell you that none of them are having significant increases in profit.

So what is going on is that as prices are rising, more and more healthy people are leaving the insurance pool. And it’s an interesting cycle, since as more healthy people leave the pool, the higher the rise in the insurance rates, resulting in more healthy people leaving the pool.
If you look at insurance rates for a large corporation, which has a nice captive pool, the price increase have been nowhere near small business and individual market.

I have absolutely no idea why you would blame Obamacare for this.

[air_ogi]

[quote=bearishgurl]
air_ogi, SOMEBODY has to subsidize the premiums of the frequent health-care users and the sick who will all soon be “covered.” This $$ will come off the backs of employers, employees and individual policy holders. There will be no more rewards (in the form of a low premium) for taking care of oneself and using exercise and alternative therapies (out-of-pocket) instead of running to the doctor constantly. Health insurance won’t work like other forms of insurance anymore.[/quote]

And that is why the requirement to have insurance goes along with removal of pre-existing conditions.

So over last couple years, salaries of doctors have been relatively constant as have been the prices of the medical equipment.

And yet we had insurance increase by 10+% every year. So that means that either insurance companies are making way more money or insured people are way sicker.
After looking the financial reports for several insurance companies, I can tell you that none of them are having significant increases in profit.

So what is going on is that as prices are rising, more and more healthy people are leaving the insurance pool. And it’s an interesting cycle, since as more healthy people leave the pool, the higher the rise in the insurance rates, resulting in more healthy people leaving the pool.
If you look at insurance rates for a large corporation, which has a nice captive pool, the price increase have been nowhere near small business and individual market.

I have absolutely no idea why you would blame Obamacare for this.

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