Why do Majority of Jews vote Democratic?

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[quote=AN]Last 15 years, we have Amazon, Google, Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, etc. What does Europe have?[/quote]

I think that AN meant giants of the new economy that were created in the last 15 years. Not companies of the old business establishment.

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Who gives a flying fuck, really? None of those companies are terribly unique nor essential for that matter.

Siemens, BASF, etc are much more essential. As in, if they went tango uniform, we’d be freezing in the dark and probably starving as well. As opposed to losing our social media fix or being unable to order more crap from China quickly.

The IT sector is glamorous right now. It’s NOT the be-all and end-all of an economy, despite what the weenies would like you to think.

[an]

[quote=spdrun]AN, really? Europe has many companies that actually DESIGN, PRODUCE, and BUILD useful things. I.T. firms aren’t the be-all and end-all of innovation.

If Amazon, Fecesbook, the Twat, LinkedIn, or even Google went nipples-up tomorrow, the world would move on and their services would be replaced quickly. If Siemens or BASF went under, industry and power grids would come to a screeching halt.

It’s amazing how much industrial and power plant equipment Siemens provides and maintains. And BASF is the largest chemical company in the world.[/quote]LoL, I’m pretty sure if BASF went under, DOW chemical or DuPont would more than gladly fill their customer’s orders. If Siemens goes under, I’m pretty sure their US competitor can more than fill in the gaps.

FYI, I listed companies that were nothing 15+ years ago and now they’re multi billion dollar companies. BASF was founded in 1865. Siemens was founded in 1847. Can you only come up with companies founded over a century ago? If you go that far back, tell me, where would the world be if Microsoft, Apple, Google, the whole world would come to a screeching halt. People would have no idea where to go to find information. They would have no PC, smartphones, search engines, etc. Tell me, who can fill in for Microsoft/Apple/Google from Europe like Dow Chemical/DuPont/GE/etc. can easily fill in for Siemens and BASF?

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[quote=spdrun]Who gives a flying fuck, really? None of those companies are terribly unique nor essential for that matter.

Siemens, BASF, etc are much more essential.[/quote]

They are essential, fine and well. They are the foundation. But they don’t contribute enough to growth/incremental wealth creation that improve living standards.

It’s like return on investment. Unless you get the pie growing, then you’re losing out.

BTW, without the markets of China, Russia and Eastern Europe, German companies would be in trouble.

[spdrun]

As I said: living standards are better in Europe.

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As far as a laundry room, I’d rather have a Euro-type kitchen washer-dryer where you put the clothes in and it keeps running till the clothes are clean and dry.[/quote]

Except that is a much less efficient way of machine drying. Electricity in Europe is expensive that most people do without. They dry clothes on their radiators to save energy. Forget about air-conditioning in the summer.

Again lower aggregate standard of living by objective measures.

[spdrun]

If you go that far back, tell me, where would the world be if Microsoft, Apple, Google, the whole world would come to a screeching halt. People would have no idea where to go to find information. They would have no PC, smartphones, search engines, etc.

The hardware would still be there and is a commodity. Produced mostly by the Chinese. As well as the French (Alcatel network switches). The software would also keep on running, and development would just be taken over.

The only people who lose data are those rock-dumb enough not to use local storage.

Search engine design isn’t even unique at this point. Wolfram Alpha (heavy European presence) and Yandex would likely take over soon enough.

[spdrun]

Forget about air-conditioning in the summer.

Average summer temps and humidity levels in much of Europe don’t require it. Any more than it’s required in coastal SD County.

BTW – would it surprise you that electricity is actually cheaper in France than in Southern California? Using 90% nuke and hydropower has its advantages 🙂

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[quote=spdrun]

If you go that far back, tell me, where would the world be if Microsoft, Apple, Google, the whole world would come to a screeching halt. People would have no idea where to go to find information. They would have no PC, smartphones, search engines, etc.

The hardware would still be there and is a commodity. Produced mostly by the Chinese. As well as the French (Alcatel network switches). The software would also keep on running, and development would just be taken over.

The only people who lose data are those stupid enough not to use local storage.

Search engine design isn’t even unique at this point. Wolfram Alpha (heavy European presence) and Yandex would likely take over soon enough.[/quote]LoL, Wolfram Alpha is headquartered in Illinois. Yandex, really?

[an]

[quote=spdrun]

Forget about air-conditioning in the summer.

Average summer temps and humidity levels in much of Europe don’t require it. Any more than it’s required in coastal SD County.

BTW – would it surprise you that electricity is actually cheaper in France than in Southern California? Using 90% nuke and hydropower has its advantages :)[/quote]LoL, yes, I need AC in coastal SD county. Any hotter than 72 degree F, I need AC.

[spdrun]

LoL, Wolfram Alpha is headquartered in Illinois. Yandex, really?

AFAIK, Wolfram has more employees outside the US than within.

[spdrun]

You never go outside in summer, then? What’s the fun of living in CA if you go from air-conditioned bubble to bubble?

[an]

[quote=spdrun]

LoL, Wolfram Alpha is headquartered in Illinois. Yandex, really?

AFAIK, Wolfram has more employees outside the US than within.[/quote]Doesn’t matter, it’s headquartered in the US, so it’s a US company.

[an]

[quote=spdrun]You never go outside in summer, then? What’s the fun of living in CA if you go from air-conditioned bubble to bubble?[/quote]Who said I don’t go outside? but when I’m inside, I want to be comfortable. Just because I want my house temp to be between 70-72 doesn’t mean I can’t go hiking and sweat or to the beach. They’re not the same thing.

[an]

[quote=spdrun]BTW – would it surprise you that electricity is actually cheaper in France than in Southern California? Using 90% nuke and hydropower has its advantages :)[/quote]France averages $0.1939/kWh. If you use like an average French person, your cost is $0.17/kWh. So, no, France doesn’t have cheaper electricity than SoCal.

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